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ill be disappointed if they switch from lows to mids. They made a big deal about lows, performed great as lows and got us used to them so they better keep them low.
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Not sure about the 1 and 2. But I HAVE to agree that the 2K4 was an amazing shoe!Originally Posted by sarteaga0408
Performance over design, that's what the Kobe line has always been about and what it should always remain about. I personally don't care about who had the hottest colorways, the LeBron's or the Kobe's, I'm more concerned about which shoe performs best.
The ZK1 is by far one of the best basketball shoes to this day. Compared to the rest of the Kobe line it's heavy and clunky almost but the padding and softness and cushioning of that shoe is still tops on my list. The ZK2, the FIRST basketball shoe EVER to incorporate TRUE FREE technology, considered upper and a carbon fiber shank. ZK3, lightweight and great support, the ZKIV and ZKV can speak for themselves. Let's not even go into the 2K4 and 2K5, those were the best shoes at the time.
You realize Durant shot like 30% for the series right? You realize with all those injuries, Kobe had better stats than Durant in the series, and has scored 30+ in the last 3 games efficiently.Originally Posted by clkru
Isn't Kobe getting too old for sigs? Stick him in some GRs or KDs!
If the Lakers' 2010 first round playoff series with the Thunder is any indication of how much of a decline Kobe is in when compared to elite NBA talent, we're only a year away from watching Kevin Durant dismantle him like Scottie Pippen did to Larry Bird toward the end of Bird's time as an elite impact player.
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Originally Posted by RaptorNation
I wasn't going to bring up the previous installments of each line, but if you compare the two, Kobe really only has the 4 and 5.Originally Posted by never wear them
Originally Posted by RaptorNation
Don't count the Lebron sig line out!Originally Posted by never wear them
Bundy, I feel you. I hope it ain't lighter that the zk5s.... You can't go any lighter than that, if so, Ima have doubts playing in em. And yea, the Kobe Line is just too much right now. Can you seriously say that his line sucked?.... Negative. Obviously it ain't JB but what other sig line is at the same level as the ZK aka Eric Avar's line?
I can't expect less When it comes to Eric Avar. Dude is my favorite outta all of em.
I love the Dark Knights, the home/away, Bruce Lee's, and the USC's..............
But the Lebron line comes very hard.
Just the 7 alone has some ridiculous cws: ASG's, Cool Grey;s, X-Mas Day (even though they sat alot), DunkMan's, CTK, HWC, etc.
I ain't count it out........ I'm talking bout magnitude dawg. The lbj line is hot... But whether you wana admit it or not, it ain't like the Kobe line. And it don't matter if it sits or not, if a shoe is hot, it's hot. Jordans sat... And those %%*!% are campout status now.
Both great sneakers! But still...........
Lebron has the 3, 4, 6 and 7; and it would seem that the LBJ line had continuous evolution, while Kobe's only major change was between the 3 and 4.
And if we're talking about campout status, I'd have to give it to Lebron as well; all of the cw's I said earlier were pretty much tent status.
But just to clarify, I'm not biased, I love both the Kobe 4 and 5
I dont know about that. The Lebron line has had popular shoes but they still haven't had that crossover hit like the Kobe IV and Kobe V. Mainly because to be crossover hit they have to look good and play good. If look at the consenus among Lebron shoes none of them have been that except maybe Soliders. The Lebron VII is the best selling Lebron shoe to date and its widely hitting outlets.( I dont know if that because they produce alot of them)
As for campout status I think you currently have to give it to the Kobe line.
The ZKIV had Venoms,MLKs, The 2 Finals shoes and All-Stars. The LBJ VI had the Big Apples and the MVP VI.
The ZKV has Bruce Lees,Dark Knights, Dukes,Aces,USCs,Aston Martins and All-Stars. The LBJ VII has the MTAG, Moon Cakes,Akrons and CTKs.
Again you may have different perspective because you are in Canada but just what I see Kobes are currently selling way faster than Lebrons.
Originally Posted by al3x89
NotoriousMJ23, where did you hear that it's going back to a mid-top if you don't mind me asking?
i thought the 4's were perfect and the 5's were a little to low cut for my taste (but i still ball in them).
Originally Posted by NotoriousMJ23
Originally Posted by al3x89
NotoriousMJ23, where did you hear that it's going back to a mid-top if you don't mind me asking?
i thought the 4's were perfect and the 5's were a little to low cut for my taste (but i still ball in them).
It was rumor at first.. but my friend that works for nike said that he heard its def. a mid again.. I honestly
do not know. so I wont mislead or misguide anyone or get hopes up..
But in that george lopez and kobe special zkv interview.. Kobe says that Nike already has the Kobes made up to 7 or 8.. lol sooo i don't know.. maybe me or another niketalker will see Eric Avar in a bar with the VI's or VII's zoom kobes on, gets trashed and all drunk and we can slip the shoes off and they leak like the guy and the iPhone situation. lol
Originally Posted by never wear them
When they say Kobe is declining.... It means he's showing his age.... He can't be doing what he used to do when he was #8 (GOAT)...
He used to run down and block dunks against the backboard, score 50+pts consecutively in big streaks, shoot 3 pointers from 3ft behind the line, make 12 3ptrs in one game etc....
All that work out that he pushed on his body is catching up to him real quick.
So My conclusion is, maybe low tops ain't really supporting him anymore. He doesn't have that style of play like he once used to.
Agree?
Originally Posted by Rolaholic
Originally Posted by never wear them
When they say Kobe is declining.... It means he's showing his age.... He can't be doing what he used to do when he was #8 (GOAT)...
He used to run down and block dunks against the backboard, score 50+pts consecutively in big streaks, shoot 3 pointers from 3ft behind the line, make 12 3ptrs in one game etc....
All that work out that he pushed on his body is catching up to him real quick.
So My conclusion is, maybe low tops ain't really supporting him anymore. He doesn't have that style of play like he once used to.
Agree?
even when he was #8 you cannot say that Kobe is the GOAT. Kobe is one of the greatest ever but during their championship run he was mostly a complimentary player to Shaq. You have to remember that Shaq was probably the best in the league at the time constantly dropping 40 in the playoffs so Kobes' titles where due in large part because of Shaq. MJ is the GOAT and he was the main reason for his teams success he carried that team for all those years and MJ is 6-0 in the NBA finals,Kobe is 4-2.
As for the shoes, I think that they should go back to the mids because when he wore them,that was the time when he was truly dominant. The low tops are pretty sick shoes and are good for us but I think that mids would be better for Kobe himself.