Originally Posted by Bryscooplaygrifhold
Seriously have no idea what the first underlined statement means. It might as well be in a foreign language that I am not familiar with as far as I am concerned.
#2. Plain and simple. I do blame hype for lack of availability. That, and the fact that some of the 1st few CWs of the KD4 were severely more limited than their similar counterparts from the 1,2, and KD3 lines- rookies, asg, creams, scoring titles, etc... How else do you explain it when above average or highly desired "limited" colorways of the 2 and 3 were readily available weeks after they dropped. So the 4 is so vastly better than the 2 and 3 that it sold out in certain CWs in minutes online and instores, whereas Creams and All Stars sat for weeks if not months in certain places?? The argument that the 4 is superior in design, fit, comfort and style to every other previous numbered model is weak, but if you chose to stick with that, fine. You are definitely entitled to your opinion.
#3. I don't know who is entitled or acts entitled. I think there is a genuine frustration that unlike with 1,2,and 3, 4s are near impossible to cop in certain colorways. It is really a drastic turnaround even based on last year's releases. It certainly was nice with previous KD releases to know that you liked something and didn't have to jump through hopes to cop it for a decent price. I don't think many/if any of us who have been through these KD threads feel it a "god given" right to have first crack at every KD (limited or otherwise), but it would certainly be nice to think you at least had a shot. With Nerfs and WMs, you really didn't have a realistic shot unless you camped, had a major connect, or shelled out serious dough. If you don't think that newfound public " PROFESSED LOVE" or "HYPE" for this model and the CWs associated with it early on played a part in that, then I think you are naive. At the same time, I am not losing sleep over it, whining, or calling you or anyone else out over the fact that I didn't get a pair of either- it is what it is- you move on and get the next thing on your list.
In then end, I don't care if anyone or everyone else likes what I happen to like- thats fine, normal, and expected as you note in your last sentence- which ironically makes the most sense to me out of your whole post. Just like anything else, The KD line has its "loyalists" and those that have been around for awhile now. Who cares? I don't think any of us think that makes us entitled to anything. What is most troubling about your comments is that you seem bent on dismissing the 1,2,and 3, whilst getting crazy over the 4s and arguing that NIKE and Leo Chang finally got it "right" with this 4. We get it- you don't like the 1,2,3- fine. You love the 4- great. I disagree with you, and you disagree with me. Acknowledged. Just do me a favor and keep your "butthurt" and entitled stuff to yourself. Its childish and just makes you look silly. In the end, we can all agree that the 4 is great and that hopefully there are enough ASGs to go around for all that truly want them.
Originally Posted by Bryscooplaygrifhold
Seriously have no idea what the first underlined statement means. It might as well be in a foreign language that I am not familiar with as far as I am concerned.
#2. Plain and simple. I do blame hype for lack of availability. That, and the fact that some of the 1st few CWs of the KD4 were severely more limited than their similar counterparts from the 1,2, and KD3 lines- rookies, asg, creams, scoring titles, etc... How else do you explain it when above average or highly desired "limited" colorways of the 2 and 3 were readily available weeks after they dropped. So the 4 is so vastly better than the 2 and 3 that it sold out in certain CWs in minutes online and instores, whereas Creams and All Stars sat for weeks if not months in certain places?? The argument that the 4 is superior in design, fit, comfort and style to every other previous numbered model is weak, but if you chose to stick with that, fine. You are definitely entitled to your opinion.
#3. I don't know who is entitled or acts entitled. I think there is a genuine frustration that unlike with 1,2,and 3, 4s are near impossible to cop in certain colorways. It is really a drastic turnaround even based on last year's releases. It certainly was nice with previous KD releases to know that you liked something and didn't have to jump through hopes to cop it for a decent price. I don't think many/if any of us who have been through these KD threads feel it a "god given" right to have first crack at every KD (limited or otherwise), but it would certainly be nice to think you at least had a shot. With Nerfs and WMs, you really didn't have a realistic shot unless you camped, had a major connect, or shelled out serious dough. If you don't think that newfound public " PROFESSED LOVE" or "HYPE" for this model and the CWs associated with it early on played a part in that, then I think you are naive. At the same time, I am not losing sleep over it, whining, or calling you or anyone else out over the fact that I didn't get a pair of either- it is what it is- you move on and get the next thing on your list.
In then end, I don't care if anyone or everyone else likes what I happen to like- thats fine, normal, and expected as you note in your last sentence- which ironically makes the most sense to me out of your whole post. Just like anything else, The KD line has its "loyalists" and those that have been around for awhile now. Who cares? I don't think any of us think that makes us entitled to anything. What is most troubling about your comments is that you seem bent on dismissing the 1,2,and 3, whilst getting crazy over the 4s and arguing that NIKE and Leo Chang finally got it "right" with this 4. We get it- you don't like the 1,2,3- fine. You love the 4- great. I disagree with you, and you disagree with me. Acknowledged. Just do me a favor and keep your "butthurt" and entitled stuff to yourself. Its childish and just makes you look silly. In the end, we can all agree that the 4 is great and that hopefully there are enough ASGs to go around for all that truly want them.
Agreed- and whereas in year's past, it would not be difficult to grab a pair week of , week after, or even a few past release date, my guess is most of them will be gone within first day or two of releasing.
Agreed- and whereas in year's past, it would not be difficult to grab a pair week of , week after, or even a few past release date, my guess is most of them will be gone within first day or two of releasing.
I feel like there's a better chance in getting the KD's than Foams or LeBrons via NDC.. and it's a good thing they all release together. I don't care if the site crashes again for hours, I will be glued to the screen like I was for the Cement IV's... Well I played 2 games of 2K12 while trying but still!
I feel like there's a better chance in getting the KD's than Foams or LeBrons via NDC.. and it's a good thing they all release together. I don't care if the site crashes again for hours, I will be glued to the screen like I was for the Cement IV's... Well I played 2 games of 2K12 while trying but still!
Originally Posted by salbah3
This. I did not like his shoes at all until this year. The IV's aesthetically speaking crap on his previous shoes.Originally Posted by cliffysam
All the other KD's before the IV's were not worth buying in my opinion. Looked like "made for footlocker joints." Although there were some that looked good in a certain colorway. I would not rap my ego around my loyalty to an unattractive shoe. Ive been a KD fan since his time at Oak Hill which was way before his first shoes. But it didnt keep me from passing on his ugly $*$ shoes for the last 3 years although some of the III's were pallatable haha. But now that he and nike figured it out we on..Originally Posted by Swaynomics
i understand where yall coming from i have been following KD since the IIs but never copped, but the sneaker game has changed in ALL aspects since the whole concord fiasco .........people are camping out the day before for some damn GRs .....i member u could wake up at 12 go to the mall and get ur pair with ease
i have always liked the IV when they leaked early last year after the release of the IIIs when everone was like !$+
it sooooooooo rare even unheard to see a prototype leak a whoooooooooooooooole year in advance nonetheless i appreciate a good pair of shoes like everyone else isnt that all that matters??
Originally Posted by salbah3
This. I did not like his shoes at all until this year. The IV's aesthetically speaking crap on his previous shoes.Originally Posted by cliffysam
All the other KD's before the IV's were not worth buying in my opinion. Looked like "made for footlocker joints." Although there were some that looked good in a certain colorway. I would not rap my ego around my loyalty to an unattractive shoe. Ive been a KD fan since his time at Oak Hill which was way before his first shoes. But it didnt keep me from passing on his ugly $*$ shoes for the last 3 years although some of the III's were pallatable haha. But now that he and nike figured it out we on..Originally Posted by Swaynomics
i understand where yall coming from i have been following KD since the IIs but never copped, but the sneaker game has changed in ALL aspects since the whole concord fiasco .........people are camping out the day before for some damn GRs .....i member u could wake up at 12 go to the mall and get ur pair with ease
i have always liked the IV when they leaked early last year after the release of the IIIs when everone was like !$+
it sooooooooo rare even unheard to see a prototype leak a whoooooooooooooooole year in advance nonetheless i appreciate a good pair of shoes like everyone else isnt that all that matters??
