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Originally Posted by mogzz04
Originally Posted by JPZx
Nnamdi Asomugha in a Vikings jersey?
Slide Antoine Winfield to safety.
Dream scenario
Dream indeed. Wouldn't like Winfield at safety though.
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Dream indeed. Wouldn't like Winfield at safety though.
- Feb 12, 2005
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Originally Posted by mogzz04
Originally Posted by JPZx
Nnamdi Asomugha in a Vikings jersey?
Slide Antoine Winfield to safety.
Dream scenario
Dream indeed. Wouldn't like Winfield at safety though.
ultralightbeam
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- Nov 14, 2003
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Todd Heap cut? I always imagined him being a Raven for life. Same with Derrick Mason. smh.
ultralightbeam
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- Nov 14, 2003
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Todd Heap cut? I always imagined him being a Raven for life. Same with Derrick Mason. smh.
- Jan 28, 2003
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Washburn will have the biggest impact on our defense this year. For the money I'd rather have Edwards than Johnson. And I'd most like to have Haynesworth. Hopefully nobody will trade for him and he has pissed off Shanahan enough that he'll get cut.
Nnamdi is still #1 though.
- Jan 28, 2003
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Washburn will have the biggest impact on our defense this year. For the money I'd rather have Edwards than Johnson. And I'd most like to have Haynesworth. Hopefully nobody will trade for him and he has pissed off Shanahan enough that he'll get cut.
Nnamdi is still #1 though.
- Jan 8, 2006
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If Nnamdi goes anywhere it's going to be a team that's going to win him a ring, the Texans have a lot of talent but I don't think Nnamdi is making them an instant Super Bowl winning team, though they'd have to potential.
- Jan 8, 2006
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If Nnamdi goes anywhere it's going to be a team that's going to win him a ring, the Texans have a lot of talent but I don't think Nnamdi is making them an instant Super Bowl winning team, though they'd have to potential.
- Mar 2, 2011
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Broncos need a Pro-Bowl caliber RB. Hearing D-Williams...
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Broncos need a Pro-Bowl caliber RB. Hearing D-Williams...
- Sep 17, 2008
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I'll take it, lord knows we need all the D-Line help we can get. Trent Cole is the only guy worth a damn plus our number 1 pick a year ago is coming off a torn ACL (Brandon Graham)Originally Posted by k3stacks
I aint even mad
Now on to Nnamdi
- Sep 17, 2008
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I'll take it, lord knows we need all the D-Line help we can get. Trent Cole is the only guy worth a damn plus our number 1 pick a year ago is coming off a torn ACL (Brandon Graham)Originally Posted by k3stacks
I aint even mad
Now on to Nnamdi
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[h3]2011 NFL FREE AGENCY BUYER'S GUIDE:[/h3]
BARGAINS | BEST FITS | RISKIEST MOVES | NFL RUMORS
The recipe for a bargain free agent is fairly simple.
Look for big reasons a former team would become disenchanted with the player: injuries, age, inconsistent production or a focus on the things the player can't do rather than the things he can. Stir that with a little bit of depth at certain positions on the free-agent market, and you have the mixture needed to produce a bargain signing.
You'll notice elements of each in some of these guys, and others that rely heavily on just one characteristic.
Here are the top bargain free agents in the 2011 class:
[h3]10. James Anderson[/h3]
[h4]James Anderson[/h4][h5]#50 LB
Carolina Panthers[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot130
- Solo101
- Ast29
- FF2
- Sack3.5
- Int1
Anderson had never been a full-time starter prior to this year but announced his ascension to the role with a strong season for a poor Carolina team. He compiled 30 Defeats (explained here) and was a presence in underneath coverage. He also soaked up an obscene 130 tackles in Carolina's Sam linebacker role. The Panthers will have a lot of money to attempt to re-sign him with, and he'll be overshadowed a bit by fellow free-agent linebackers Stephen Tulloch and Paul Posluszny, so if anyone on this list stays with his current team, it's probably Anderson.
[h3]9. Tyler Thigpen[/h3]
[h4]Tyler Thigpen[/h4][h5]#16 QB
Miami Dolphins[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Att62
- Comp33
- Yds435
- TD2
- Int2
- Rat73.0
There are only a finite number of good-to-great quarterbacks in the NFL, and once you get past those you're more likely to see an established mediocrity, such as Jake Delhomme or Kerry Collins, under center than a less-experienced backup such as Thigpen. Thigpen doesn't help matters by succeeding mainly as a spread quarterback, and thus the obvious fit for him will be Buffalo, where he can reunite with Chan Gailey, his offensive coordinator on the 2009 Chiefs. There isn't a whole lot of upside here, but Thigpen can be a perfectly competent quarterback in his preferred system. That's more than you can say for quite a few quarterbacks who were allowed more snaps than him last season.
[h3]8. Jerome Harrison[/h3]
[h4]Jerome Harrison[/h4][h5]#33 RB
Philadelphia Eagles[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Rush71
- Yds330
- TD1
- Rec12
- Yds85
- TD0
The Cleveland Browns were always looking for reasons not to play Harrison, no matter how much he produced on the field. He gained five yards a carry between 2007 and 2009, and nearly broke the single-game rushing record with 286 yards against Kansas City late in 2009. The Browns wouldn't even use him in a committee with Peyton Hillis, and traded him to Philadelphia, where he gained six yards per carry over eight games. If you've got a power back you can pair with Harrison, you can get a very efficient, elusive back for very little money.
[h3]7. Carlos Rogers[/h3]
[h4]Carlos Rogers[/h4][h5]#22 CB
Washington ********[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot54
- Solo43
- Ast11
- FF1
- Sack0.0
- Int2
Rogers has an ugly fault for a cornerback: He can't catch footballs. While that may keep him from making a number of game-changing plays like fellow ******** corner DeAngelo Hall, Rogers is much steadier than Hall at things like "actually covering receivers," which is a pretty good trait for a corner to have. He had a down year in 2009, but aside from that Rogers has generally mixed very good yards per play averages with decent Stop Rates -- our measure of how successful a player was at keeping the offense from having a productive play. He's not an elite corner, and recently turning 30 limits his long-term contributions, but Rogers would definitely make a good second cornerback for a number of teams.
[h3]6. Steve Breaston[/h3]
[h4]Steve Breaston[/h4][h5]#15 WR
Arizona Cardinals[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Rec47
- Yds718
- TD1
- Avg15.3
- Long37
- YAC167
The Cardinals have been concerned about the state of Breaston's knee for some time, but it didn't stop the Arizona wideout from going over 700 yards receiving for the third straight season. His Catch Rate was way down, from 67 percent in 2009 to 54 percent last year, so you can see why the Cardinals had some concerns, but a receiver of Breaston's caliber could find a second or third receiver role in a number of offenses if he's healthy. Kansas City has already been linked to him due to his association with Todd Haley. Teams such as Tennessee, Miami, Minnesota and Seattle could also be fits for Breaston.
[h3]5. Josh Wilson[/h3]
[h4]Josh Wilson[/h4][h5]#37 CB
Baltimore Ravens[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot40
- Solo37
- Ast3
- FF0
- Sack0.0
- Int3
Baltimore obtained Wilson from the Seahawks for a fifth-round pick, and he excelled for them while healthy last season, collecting three interceptions -- including one from Matt Schaub that he returned for a game-winning touchdown. The Ravens decided to draft Jimmy Smith in the first round this year, though, making Wilson somewhat expendable. His play on the field has been pretty stellar the past couple of seasons, but his history of bumps and bruises will likely drive his price down. He and Rogers would have been the best cornerbacks on the market after Leigh Bodden last offseason, but they had the misfortune to be in the same crop as Nnamdi Asomugha, Johnathan Joseph, Ike Taylor and Antonio Cromartie this year.
[h3]4. Jared Gaither[/h3]
[h4]Jared Gaither[/h4][h5]#71 OT
Baltimore Ravens[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot -
- Solo -
- Ast -
- FF -
- Sack -
- Int -
It seems the Ravens will be making Marshal Yanda their priority at tackle in this abbreviated offseason, with Michael Oher set at the other slot. Gaither missed all of last year due to a back injury but looked like a steal in 2009 after the Ravens plucked him out of the supplemental draft. With a hulking 6-foot-9, 360-pound frame, Gaither should be a match for tackle-needy teams, such as Buffalo, Indianapolis or Pittsburgh, if he proves his back woes are over.
[h3]3. Dawan Landry[/h3]
[h4]Dawan Landry[/h4][h5]#26 S
Baltimore Ravens[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot111
- Solo86
- Ast25
- FF1
- Sack1.0
- Int0
With the Ravens possibly turning over strong safety to Tom Zbikowski, Landry has had the misfortune of falling into a very deep market for his position. Landry is a steady tackler who plays the run quite well and while he doesn't have a long history of being great against the pass, he dropped his passing YPA allowed to a career low 8.9 last season. He's not quite as good as Quintin Mikell statistically, but his younger age should have those same few teams weighing the benefits of the two of them carefully.
[h3]2. Jacob Ford[/h3]
[h4]Jacob Ford[/h4][h5]#78 DE
Tennessee Titans[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot42
- Solo31
- Ast11
- FF1
- Sack3.0
- Int0
A former Football Outsiders Top Prospect, Ford's numbers have been artificially depressed by Washburn's constant shuffling and rotations along the defensive line. Ford isn't a difference-maker against the run, but he has accumulated 15.5 sacks and 28 hurries despite starting just eight games over the past three years.
Coming off his worst season, the market for his services will be slower than it should be. It's worth pondering how high his ceiling would be if Washburn couldn't mold him into a starter in three years, but Ford could be a significant addition to a number of teams looking for an edge rusher, even if it's only as a third-down contributor. The best-case scenario? His career looks a lot like Charles Johnson's up to this point, and once Johnson managed to get in the starting lineup, he made opposing quarterbacks pay.
[h3]1. Quintin Mikell[/h3]
[h4]Quintin Mikell[/h4][h5]#27 S
Philadelphia Eagles[/h5]
2010 STATS
All Mikell has done is rank in the top 10 in yards per play and Stop Rate for safeties every year he has been a full-time starter. If he was 26 instead of 31 in September, he might be the best non-Asomugha free agent available. Instead, there's already been talk he is the backup option for a few teams. Teams such as Houston, Dallas, Jacksonville, Atlanta and Minnesota could make for a great landing spot for the former Eagles safety.
- Tot88
- Solo77
- Ast11
- FF1
- Sack1.0
- Int3
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[/h3]
[/h3]
[h3]2011 NFL FREE AGENCY BUYER'S GUIDE:[/h3]
BARGAINS | BEST FITS | RISKIEST MOVES | NFL RUMORS
The recipe for a bargain free agent is fairly simple.
Look for big reasons a former team would become disenchanted with the player: injuries, age, inconsistent production or a focus on the things the player can't do rather than the things he can. Stir that with a little bit of depth at certain positions on the free-agent market, and you have the mixture needed to produce a bargain signing.
You'll notice elements of each in some of these guys, and others that rely heavily on just one characteristic.
Here are the top bargain free agents in the 2011 class:
[h3]10. James Anderson[/h3]
Carolina Panthers[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot130
- Solo101
- Ast29
- FF2
- Sack3.5
- Int1
Anderson had never been a full-time starter prior to this year but announced his ascension to the role with a strong season for a poor Carolina team. He compiled 30 Defeats (explained here) and was a presence in underneath coverage. He also soaked up an obscene 130 tackles in Carolina's Sam linebacker role. The Panthers will have a lot of money to attempt to re-sign him with, and he'll be overshadowed a bit by fellow free-agent linebackers Stephen Tulloch and Paul Posluszny, so if anyone on this list stays with his current team, it's probably Anderson.
[h3]9. Tyler Thigpen[/h3]
Miami Dolphins[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Att62
- Comp33
- Yds435
- TD2
- Int2
- Rat73.0
There are only a finite number of good-to-great quarterbacks in the NFL, and once you get past those you're more likely to see an established mediocrity, such as Jake Delhomme or Kerry Collins, under center than a less-experienced backup such as Thigpen. Thigpen doesn't help matters by succeeding mainly as a spread quarterback, and thus the obvious fit for him will be Buffalo, where he can reunite with Chan Gailey, his offensive coordinator on the 2009 Chiefs. There isn't a whole lot of upside here, but Thigpen can be a perfectly competent quarterback in his preferred system. That's more than you can say for quite a few quarterbacks who were allowed more snaps than him last season.
[h3]8. Jerome Harrison[/h3]
Philadelphia Eagles[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Rush71
- Yds330
- TD1
- Rec12
- Yds85
- TD0
The Cleveland Browns were always looking for reasons not to play Harrison, no matter how much he produced on the field. He gained five yards a carry between 2007 and 2009, and nearly broke the single-game rushing record with 286 yards against Kansas City late in 2009. The Browns wouldn't even use him in a committee with Peyton Hillis, and traded him to Philadelphia, where he gained six yards per carry over eight games. If you've got a power back you can pair with Harrison, you can get a very efficient, elusive back for very little money.
[h3]7. Carlos Rogers[/h3]
Washington ********[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot54
- Solo43
- Ast11
- FF1
- Sack0.0
- Int2
Rogers has an ugly fault for a cornerback: He can't catch footballs. While that may keep him from making a number of game-changing plays like fellow ******** corner DeAngelo Hall, Rogers is much steadier than Hall at things like "actually covering receivers," which is a pretty good trait for a corner to have. He had a down year in 2009, but aside from that Rogers has generally mixed very good yards per play averages with decent Stop Rates -- our measure of how successful a player was at keeping the offense from having a productive play. He's not an elite corner, and recently turning 30 limits his long-term contributions, but Rogers would definitely make a good second cornerback for a number of teams.
[h3]6. Steve Breaston[/h3]
Arizona Cardinals[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Rec47
- Yds718
- TD1
- Avg15.3
- Long37
- YAC167
The Cardinals have been concerned about the state of Breaston's knee for some time, but it didn't stop the Arizona wideout from going over 700 yards receiving for the third straight season. His Catch Rate was way down, from 67 percent in 2009 to 54 percent last year, so you can see why the Cardinals had some concerns, but a receiver of Breaston's caliber could find a second or third receiver role in a number of offenses if he's healthy. Kansas City has already been linked to him due to his association with Todd Haley. Teams such as Tennessee, Miami, Minnesota and Seattle could also be fits for Breaston.
[h3]5. Josh Wilson[/h3]
Baltimore Ravens[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot40
- Solo37
- Ast3
- FF0
- Sack0.0
- Int3
Baltimore obtained Wilson from the Seahawks for a fifth-round pick, and he excelled for them while healthy last season, collecting three interceptions -- including one from Matt Schaub that he returned for a game-winning touchdown. The Ravens decided to draft Jimmy Smith in the first round this year, though, making Wilson somewhat expendable. His play on the field has been pretty stellar the past couple of seasons, but his history of bumps and bruises will likely drive his price down. He and Rogers would have been the best cornerbacks on the market after Leigh Bodden last offseason, but they had the misfortune to be in the same crop as Nnamdi Asomugha, Johnathan Joseph, Ike Taylor and Antonio Cromartie this year.
[h3]4. Jared Gaither[/h3]
Baltimore Ravens[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot -
- Solo -
- Ast -
- FF -
- Sack -
- Int -
It seems the Ravens will be making Marshal Yanda their priority at tackle in this abbreviated offseason, with Michael Oher set at the other slot. Gaither missed all of last year due to a back injury but looked like a steal in 2009 after the Ravens plucked him out of the supplemental draft. With a hulking 6-foot-9, 360-pound frame, Gaither should be a match for tackle-needy teams, such as Buffalo, Indianapolis or Pittsburgh, if he proves his back woes are over.
[h3]3. Dawan Landry[/h3]
Baltimore Ravens[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot111
- Solo86
- Ast25
- FF1
- Sack1.0
- Int0
With the Ravens possibly turning over strong safety to Tom Zbikowski, Landry has had the misfortune of falling into a very deep market for his position. Landry is a steady tackler who plays the run quite well and while he doesn't have a long history of being great against the pass, he dropped his passing YPA allowed to a career low 8.9 last season. He's not quite as good as Quintin Mikell statistically, but his younger age should have those same few teams weighing the benefits of the two of them carefully.
[h3]2. Jacob Ford[/h3]
Tennessee Titans[/h5]
2010 STATS
- Tot42
- Solo31
- Ast11
- FF1
- Sack3.0
- Int0
A former Football Outsiders Top Prospect, Ford's numbers have been artificially depressed by Washburn's constant shuffling and rotations along the defensive line. Ford isn't a difference-maker against the run, but he has accumulated 15.5 sacks and 28 hurries despite starting just eight games over the past three years.
Coming off his worst season, the market for his services will be slower than it should be. It's worth pondering how high his ceiling would be if Washburn couldn't mold him into a starter in three years, but Ford could be a significant addition to a number of teams looking for an edge rusher, even if it's only as a third-down contributor. The best-case scenario? His career looks a lot like Charles Johnson's up to this point, and once Johnson managed to get in the starting lineup, he made opposing quarterbacks pay.
[h3]1. Quintin Mikell[/h3]
Philadelphia Eagles[/h5]
2010 STATS
All Mikell has done is rank in the top 10 in yards per play and Stop Rate for safeties every year he has been a full-time starter. If he was 26 instead of 31 in September, he might be the best non-Asomugha free agent available. Instead, there's already been talk he is the backup option for a few teams. Teams such as Houston, Dallas, Jacksonville, Atlanta and Minnesota could make for a great landing spot for the former Eagles safety.
- Tot88
- Solo77
- Ast11
- FF1
- Sack1.0
- Int3
- Jan 3, 2011
- 10,371
- 653
Josh Wilson is so good. I would take him over any other corner in this class, outside of Asomugha. Maybe even him, too, because of the cost differential.
- Jan 3, 2011
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Josh Wilson is so good. I would take him over any other corner in this class, outside of Asomugha. Maybe even him, too, because of the cost differential.
- Feb 9, 2009
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If Tyler Thigpen sees the field, more than likely your season is going in the tank, bargain or not.
- Feb 9, 2009
- 9,622
- 783
If Tyler Thigpen sees the field, more than likely your season is going in the tank, bargain or not.
Pathos
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Originally Posted by ExtRaOrDinaRy SwAg
I'll take it, lord knows we need all the D-Line help we can get. Trent Cole is the only guy worth a damn plus our number 1 pick a year ago is coming off a torn ACL (Brandon Graham)Originally Posted by k3stacks
I aint even mad
Now on to Nnamdi
at this point i'll be glad if we scoop up a linebacker like Thomas Davis or another piece to the OL, i'll even take Johnathan Joseph if we cant get Nnamdi
Pathos
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Originally Posted by ExtRaOrDinaRy SwAg
I'll take it, lord knows we need all the D-Line help we can get. Trent Cole is the only guy worth a damn plus our number 1 pick a year ago is coming off a torn ACL (Brandon Graham)Originally Posted by k3stacks
I aint even mad
Now on to Nnamdi
at this point i'll be glad if we scoop up a linebacker like Thomas Davis or another piece to the OL, i'll even take Johnathan Joseph if we cant get Nnamdi
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[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]- Ravens will sign undrafted Miami RB Damien Berry tomorrow, per league source.
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]-[/color][/color][color= rgb(255, 0, 0)][/color][color= rgb(255, 0, 0)] John Clayton reports that NFL teams were granted the right to sign undrafted players Monday night. So dealings are underway.[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]-[/color][/color][color= rgb(255, 0, 0)][/color][color= rgb(255, 0, 0)] John Clayton reports that NFL teams were granted the right to sign undrafted players Monday night. So dealings are underway.[/color]
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Has potential to be a good backup.
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Has potential to be a good backup.
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All of you drooling over Nnamdi makes me sick! He should remain what he truly is at heart.... A RAIDER!!!!
