I definitely agree with the Jjjjound.This might be a hot take, but the Up There 2002r's are JJJJOUND levels over rated imo. None of them are bad as the models are dope. They just aren't what others make them out to be IMO. If I wanted skunk dunks, I'd get skunk dunks. Not 2002rs. That's what I see when I see those. Again, they look dope but, if I'm choosing between them and the JFG 993s, I'm going for the 993s. The issue (issue might be a poor choice of word) I have with alot of NB collabs is that they look like GRs and not collabs. Which speaks more to the quality and execution of New Balance than speaking against the collaborator or their product execution. At least with these 993s we've never seen any 993 in this shade. They definitely stand out and knowing JFG we will get dope packaging as well. So when/if I have to go secondary market I don't feel like I'm getting fleeced for what is basically a GR.. Maybe if NB collabs we're easier to get I might feel differently. But their site is harder to crack than SNKRS. I've never gotten anything on NB that otherwise wasn't available on the site all day or wasn't available on other sites. If it's a sell out I've never gotten the Dub. At least on sneakers I'll hit on that kind of shoe at least 1 time a year if not more. I guess I'm just ranting now