Official NBA Draft Lottery/ 2010 NBA Draft Thread Vol. June 24th 7ET

Originally Posted by useref15

CDR is complete garbage. You guys don't know what your talking about. If he played half as good as he talked, he'd be worth keeping.


Hes being traded for future considerations....that says something about him. Glad his %$% is outta NJ....YES YES!
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he had 15 & 5 and many a 20+ night before the injury though

not even gonna get into his college days
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I think people are either underrating him or overhyping him on here...

CD-R is a good player with a bright future. He won't be the go to guy or 2nd option on the team... But a good 3rd option.

He's very talented, athletic, & can score. Also very competitive... But that is where it helps him but hurts him.

Even though I like when players speak their mind & have a strong passion, there's a thin line that he seems to cross. The tweeting about certain things this season is 1 example of that. While he has a bright future, he still has time to grow on the court & with his decision making.

He is NOT a bad player... But not a superstar. A definit addition to the team though... & if he can figuere out the line I was talking about... an even better addition.
 
The more I look at Avery Bradley the more I can't talk myself into liking him, beyond his physical profile there is no reason to compare this dude Russel Westbrook or Rajon Rondo.
 
He is a 6th man off the bench and that's it. Don't let his numbers on a horrible team fool u
 
Players I like:

Cole Aldrich
Al-Farouq Aminu
Trevor Booker
Craig Brackins
Da'Sean Butler
Sherron Collins
DeMarcus Cousins
Jordan Crawford
Devin Ebanks
Derrick Favors
Gordon Hayward
Lazar Hayward
Damion James
Wesley Johnson
Gani Lawal
Greg Monroe
Patrick Patterson
Jerome Randle
Jarvis Varnardo
John Wall

Players I would want no part of:

Luke Babbitt
Avery Bradley
Ed Davis
Tiny Gallon
Paul George
Luke Harangody
Xavier Henry
Daniel Orton
Jon Scheyer
Lance Stephenson
Greivis Vasquez
Willie Warren
Hassan Whiteside

Players that everyone but me think are future superstars, and whom kind of frighten me:

Evan Turner

First player to go undrafted and win Rookie of the Year? (I have no idea if this has ever happened before):

Matt Bouldin

Players that I hope die:

Omar Samhan

Edit: Mock draft a work in progress.
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Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason

Players I like:

DeMarcus Cousins
Derrick Favors
Evan Turner
John Wall
Wesley Johnson
Players I would want no part of:

Everyone else
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God this draft is gross.
 
Any bobcats rumors, I know they have no picks but the rumor was they are "very active" in trade talks and would increase payroll
 
What is the NT consensus on Cousins?

I still don't have an idea on how turns out. I've gone back and forth on it all year.

I'd probably stay away from him in the top 5 but wouldn't be surprised if teams kick themselves when he's the 2nd or 3rd player to come from this draft.
 
actually this summed up my thoughts on him perfectly..
The most intriguing debate heading into Thursday's NBA Draft is the debate about DeMarcus Cousins.

Will he be the Rookie of the Year?

Will he be a headache?

Truth is, it won't surprise me if Cousins turns out to be both. The guy is an awesome talent and uneven personality whose reputation is well earned. My guess is that he'll put 18 points and 17 rebounds on somebody in the first month of his NBA career and cause general managers who passed on him to cry, then two months later be caught on camera arguing with an assistant coach, at which point those same general managers will be thankful they passed.

And that's probably how Cousins' career will go.

Lots of nice moments surrounded by lots of shake-your-head moments.

So the question the Nets (picking third) and Timberwolves (picking fourth) must ask themselves is whether they'd rather have Cousins and his issues, or Derrick Favors, Wes Johnson or Greg Monroe, because it's not close in terms of talent. On talent alone, Cousins should probably be the second pick (behind only Kentucky teammate John Wall) and perhaps the No. 1 overall pick. As much as I've criticized Cousins' demeanor, I've never questioned his ability. He's big and strong and skilled, and he was the most dominant force in college basketball last season. I love his potential, but I'm scared he'll never be able to get out of his own way. That's the dilemma. That's always been the dilemma.

And yet I still wonder how much it should matter.

I still really do wonder if we care too much about character.

I mean, I just watched the Lakers win an NBA title with a player who has been accused of rape (Kobe Bryant), a player who ran into the stands to punch a fan (Ron Artest), a player who once demanded a trade from the team that drafted him (Pau Gasol), and a player who married the worst Kardashian just weeks after meeting her (Lamar Odom). Again, those are our world champions. Meantime, the Indianapolis Police Department believes Zach Randolph could be a drug kingpin, and he's an All-Star. Dwyane Wade has gone through some kind of crazy divorce and may or may not be a terrible father, but he's a pretty successful basketball player. Carmelo Anthony once told criminals not to snitch on other criminals, but I'd take him on my team. Tyreke Evans was the driver of a car that carried a murderer away to safety, but he was also the Rookie of the Year.

I could do this forever, but you get the point.

Character matters, sure.

But nothing matters in the NBA more than talent.

You don't win or lose with good people and bad people.

You win or lose with talented players and untalented players.

So I'd take Wall ahead of Cousins and I might -- let me stress might -- take Turner and Favors ahead of him, too. But there's absolutely no way Cousins -- a 6-foot-11, 280-pound forward who averaged 15.1 points and 9.8 rebounds in 23.5 minutes per game as a freshman -- should go any lower than fourth in this draft, absolutely no way Cousins should be selected behind Johnson, Monroe or anybody else not named Wall, Turner or Favors because you don't pass on a potential All-Star unless you're getting a potential All-Star in his place.

There are only four prospects in this draft who project as potential All-Stars.
  • John Wall
  • Evan Turner
  • Derrick Favors
  • DeMarcus Cousins
If they're not the first four picks Thursday night, somebody messed up.
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Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?page=ford-simmons-100623

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@ Simmons picking Bledsoe at #4.
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He doesn't really follow college basketball and it shows.

What is your issue with Jon Scheyer dude? Great spot up shooter, doesn't turn the ball over vs. great competition, smart player, high character. Not expecting him to be anything more than a role player of course but do people forget that the majority of players in the NBA are role players? I would love to have Scheyer on my team any day.
 
Originally Posted by Al3xis

What is the NT consensus on Cousins?

I still don't have an idea on how turns out. I've gone back and forth on it all year.

I'd probably stay away from him in the top 5 but wouldn't be surprised if teams kick themselves when he's the 2nd or 3rd player to come from this draft.
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I think he is going to win rookie of the year.  He's a load inside with an nba post game.  He has soft hands.  Hopefully he ends up on the right team.
  
 
Originally Posted by Al3xis

What is the NT consensus on Cousins?

I still don't have an idea on how turns out. I've gone back and forth on it all year.

I'd probably stay away from him in the top 5 but wouldn't be surprised if teams kick themselves when he's the 2nd or 3rd player to come from this draft.
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I think he is going to win rookie of the year.  He's a load inside with an nba post game.  He has soft hands.  Hopefully he ends up on the right team.
  
 
I have no problem saying he will be the player that GM's look back on in five years and wonder why they passed on him.
 
Originally Posted by Al3xis

What is the NT consensus on Cousins?

I still don't have an idea on how turns out. I've gone back and forth on it all year.

I'd probably stay away from him in the top 5 but wouldn't be surprised if teams kick themselves when he's the 2nd or 3rd player to come from this draft.
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A lot of his long-term success will hinge on the organization that drafts him. Put him around the right teammates, coaches and management and he'll beast.

Detroit would be the best place for him.
 
Originally Posted by raw120

Originally Posted by Al3xis

What is the NT consensus on Cousins?

I still don't have an idea on how turns out. I've gone back and forth on it all year.

I'd probably stay away from him in the top 5 but wouldn't be surprised if teams kick themselves when he's the 2nd or 3rd player to come from this draft.
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I think he is going to win rookie of the year.  He's a load inside with an nba post game.  He has soft hands.  Hopefully he ends up on the right team.
  
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A small % of lottery picks end up on the right team.
 
Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason

Players I like:

Sherron Collins
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That is my man and all but what do you see from Sherron on the next level? I think he could be another small SG spark off the bench like Thrill or  Nate (more like Nate since he can shoot). I wish him the best and I see he is in great shape as of late. Hope he can stick with it. I will be happy to see him go to a contender. Which he will most likely do based on where folks are projecting him.
 
Im still not sold on Cousins... Some of his workout reports only made my decision stronger at that.
 
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