Official N.Y. Yankees 2009 SEASON THREAD (103-59) WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!

[alleniversonfan01]

Originally Posted by Al3xis

yeah.."yall types"

every non Yankee fan thinkin it's been a bad move says enough.

I probably speak for most, when I say, we don't care, if anything...it's better....we don't want games being over after 7 innings.

that's all.

Exactly. Everyone here is having a grown man baseball discussion. Its not just a "O Joba suck" it is a ligitimate arguement that he hasno place in a starting role. Papelbon was in the same boat, he tried to convert to a starter a few years back, he and the managment realized that he benefitedus more in the pen and hes been there since beasting it for us.

But hey by all means keep him a starter. Because you guys will never feel like you have a game in the bag once you have to go to Veras/Marte/Ramirez to helpyou get through a 6th or 7th inning. Bruney is your 8th and hes solid so far but theres only so many innings he can pitch, he cant be your 8th every night.

 

[frankie valentino]

Originally Posted by Mez 0ne

Joba throws a lot of pitches + is on a strict pitch count (for like 3 years already), he is better in the pen being a starter makes no sense he'll just tax the already shaky pen.

But I could care less.

# of wins we can secure with a Joba/Rivera combination >>> # of wins Joba can win or give us the win

Pretty much.


Thursday and Fridays game are a great example of how Joba being a started helped. Thursday, the game was tied in the 7th, and Joba likely wouldn't havecome in until the 8th. However by the time the 8th inning rolled around, the score was already 10-1. There was no way he would have helped us win that game.Friday comes and it's his turn to start, he has a solid second outing and kept us in the game till the 'good yankee bullpen' showed up and helpedus preserve the win. If Joba didn't start, Wang probably would have had to pitch after a terrible opening day loss, not to mention he's following up ontwo terrible starts, putting even more stress on him to perform well.

There's no doubt Joba can be a great 8th inning, but considering the parts in the Yankee system (Melancon), i don't think the win/loss differentialwould be too great either way to not have Joba as a starter until someone like a Hughes or Kennedy can perform up their own expectations.

 

[bkmac]

4/18

Game time: 3:40 on FOX

YANKEES (6-5)
Jeter SS
Damon DH
Teixeira 1B
Swisher RF
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera LF
Gardner CF
Pena 3B

Pitching: RHP Chien-Ming Wang (0-2, 28.93).

INDIANS (3-8 )
Lineup TBA

Pitching: Fausto Carmona (0-2, 9.00).

3rd times a charm for Wang today? I hope so. We need him to pitch well, he usually does at home, but he's had a rough start to the season.

UPDATE, 11:30 a.m.: The news from Chad Jennings in Scranton is that right-handed reliever Anthony Claggett has been called up to New York. We'll find out soon what the corresponding move is.

Claggett arrives in New York a day after Gary Sheffield hit his 500th homer for the Mets. Claggett was one of the prospects the Yankees received for Sheff.

- Per LoHud

 

[alleniversonfan01]

Originally Posted by Frankie Valentino

Originally Posted by Mez 0ne

Joba throws a lot of pitches + is on a strict pitch count (for like 3 years already), he is better in the pen being a starter makes no sense he'll just tax the already shaky pen.

But I could care less.

# of wins we can secure with a Joba/Rivera combination >>> # of wins Joba can win or give us the win

Pretty much.

Thursday and Fridays game are a great example of how Joba being a started helped. Thursday, the game was tied in the 7th, and Joba likely wouldn't have come in until the 8th. However by the time the 8th inning rolled around, the score was already 10-1. There was no way he would have helped us win that game. Friday comes and it's his turn to start, he has a solid second outing and kept us in the game till the 'good yankee bullpen' showed up and helped us preserve the win. If Joba didn't start, Wang probably would have had to pitch after a terrible opening day loss, not to mention he's following up on two terrible starts, putting even more stress on him to perform well.

There's no doubt Joba can be a great 8th inning, but considering the parts in the Yankee system (Melancon), i don't think the win/loss differential would be too great either way to not have Joba as a starter until someone like a Hughes or Kennedy can perform up their own expectations.
Really???????? First thing is if Joba is in your bullpen for the 8th Bruney pitches the 7th in that game and you dont give up a 9 run inning, andyou are still in the game to win it in the later innings and you dont get blown out in your stadium opener.

Secondly you call a 4 2/3 inning outing giving up5 ERs and 5 walks a good outing and keeping you in the game. That has to be one of the most Homer responsesive ever seen on this forum. Im sorry im not really trying to get on you but that response was just rediculous. Thats like me saying Brad Penny came out andkept us in the game setting us up for the win last night as well.

But like I said im done argueing with you guys, If you want him to start and only see the mound once every 5 games and have a good outing once every 4 startsbe my guest. More bullpen loses for you guys means another year where you guys may not be playing in October. But its early Joba may rightt he ship, but in allhonesty he should be in the bullpen.

 

[joe twenty1]

As relievers Brian Bruney=Joba Chamberlain.

 

[proshares]

I'm not even going to scroll through the last 2 pages of arguments, just letting you queens know I'm out to the game now. Hopefully me and this chickwill be some good luck (the last 5 times I been there with her they've won) look out for me section 235 in LF. I'll see if she has a camera to takesome pics.

 

[DeadsetAce]

Originally Posted by Proshares

I'm not even going to scroll through the last 2 pages of arguments, just letting you queens know I'm out to the game now. Hopefully me and this chick will be some good luck (the last 5 times I been there with her they've won) look out for me section 235 in LF. I'll see if she has a camera to take some pics.

get some pics of her too

 

[true 3 blue]

You'd better be smashing and not simping broham

 

[mez 0ne]

Joba kept the Yankees in the game with 5er's and 5 walks in 4 and 2/3s? That was a lousy start fam.

As relievers Brian Bruney=Joba Chamberlain.

Bruney is a small sample you're foolish if you think he is on the same level as Joba.

Bruney 7th, Joba 8th, Mariano 9th solves a lot of pen issues for them.

 

[true 3 blue]

I think you're exaggerating on Bruney though, he's actually very reliable.

 

[mez 0ne]

Reliable and solid yeah, but = to Joba?

Move him to the 7th inning it makes the pen even better.

 

[joe twenty1]

Originally Posted by Mez 0ne

Joba kept the Yankees in the game with 5er's and 5 walks in 4 and 2/3s? That was a lousy start fam.

As relievers Brian Bruney=Joba Chamberlain.

Bruney is a small sample you're foolish if you think he is on the same level as Joba.

Bruney 7th, Joba 8th, Mariano 9th solves a lot of pen issues for them.
Small sample?

Brian Bruney innings pitched as a Yankee reliever: 111
Joba Chamberlains innings pitched as a Yankee reliever: 59

 

[onewearz]

wang needs to come hard today ..........

 

[itsaNYthing]

Are dudes really expecting Joba to be Cy Young in his FIRST full year as a starter? Lord, help us. Bad performances like yesterday's are expected from our#5 starter.

 

[true 3 blue]

Swisher is that guy

 

[briannnnn]

Originally Posted by onewearz

wang needs to come hard today ..........

In and out like a minute-man but that's a good thing for today.

And

at 3/4 of those scumbag $2600 seats being empty...they're all probably chilling in the Legends restaurant because why go to a baseball gamewhen you can just sit indoors away from the action?

 

[onewearz]

adios pelota !!!!

 

[true 3 blue]

Text Message.

 

[briannnnn]

TEX MESSAGE TO RIGHT FIELD! YOU'RE ON THE MARK, TEIXEIRA!

 

[tbone95860]

Tex

 

[frankie valentino]

Swisher is that dude.

 

[tbone95860]

Originally Posted by Mez 0ne

Joba throws a lot of pitches + is on a strict pitch count (for like 3 years already), he is better in the pen being a starter makes no sense he'll just tax the already shaky pen.

But I could care less.

# of wins we can secure with a Joba/Rivera combination >>> # of wins Joba can win or give us the win

Pretty much.
Nope.

I disagree with both points.

Thankfully the powers that be, the ones more intelligent then people like you.... IN the Yankees organization.... agree with ME

 

[mez 0ne]

Originally Posted by JoE TwEnTy1

Originally Posted by Mez 0ne

Joba kept the Yankees in the game with 5er's and 5 walks in 4 and 2/3s? That was a lousy start fam.

As relievers Brian Bruney=Joba Chamberlain.

Bruney is a small sample you're foolish if you think he is on the same level as Joba.

Bruney 7th, Joba 8th, Mariano 9th solves a lot of pen issues for them.

Small sample?

Brian Bruney innings pitched as a Yankee reliever: 111
Joba Chamberlains innings pitched as a Yankee reliever: 59

Its still a small sample considering Bruney had a bad year in 2007, a good one last year, and is solid so far this year (good but not great).

Joba is GREAT, probably one of the better 8th inning guys period and he is a far better pitcher....you CAN'T say Bruney will do whatever Joba is capable ofdoing when that's far from the truth.

Having guys lock down innings 7-9 changes the dynamic of a baseball game for the opposition, the rest of the guys can just be throw ins.

 

[onewearz]

lotta empty seats in the lower bowl .....

 

[gregory house]

Tex