Official DragonBall Z Thread. R.I.P Akira Toriyama. You will be missed

[PRIME]

Goku and Vegeta are even.

Goku and Vegeta are even.

Goku and Vegeta are even.

They're both even.

Goku and Vegeta are even.

Compared to Vegeta's technique which has 0% chance of working? Goku still has access to a technique that multiplies his power. Vegeta can't do that, therefore making Goku stronger.

Vegeta fans always tryna protect that man. This is Goku's story, Vegeta has been the opening act since '88...

That makes them even.

Guys. I think they're even

 

[Top Boy]

 

You mean the same spirit bomb that takes hours to charge and requires Goku to stand still with his arms up in the air so he can get killed charging it????? Goku can have that. There's a reason why he rarely uses it.

Final Flash was knocked away by a Cell Jr. because it's an attack that requires charging. The one he blasted Cell is much more powerful than the one he blasted at the Cell Jr because he only charged it for a few seconds vs a few minutes against Cell.

Lmao so you'll dismiss the Spirit bomb because it needs to be charged and then make an argument for the final flash....because it needs to be charged?? Fam....

 

Clearly talking about Zamasu the Kai. There aren't two Goku Black's fam. There's a Zamasu and there's a Black.

Son is reaching all the way back to the Namek saga to make a point

Hit the bricks g 

Again, im making the point that God's are stealing Goku's body because he's been known throughout the world, universe, galaxy as the strongest mortal out and about, not Vegeta. But to entertain your thoughts on Black Goku fighting Vegeta, while Goku was fighting the less powerful albeit IMMORTAL Zamasu, its the norm for Goku to fight the villain that there is no chance of beating. Vegeta was fighting Black because about 5 episodes earlier he was impaled in front of his son and called the opening act when compared to who? Yes, goku. So Vegeta should get his revenge because he's a warrior with pride. He surely won't take an L again this saga right?....... Lol the prince is taking a L next week's episode

Dude stole his body because Goku was the one that handed him a fade.

Cmon son

 

[Based Jesus]

Spirit Bomb charging and final flash charging are two different things 

 

 

[jays25]

Son stays reaching to prop Goku up. Zamasu stealing Goku's body has EVERYTHING to do with Goku beating him in a fight and NOTHING to do with Goku being well-known or some ****. Stop it. Dude will bend the **** over backwards to make Goku look better

 

[Mr Dink]

Lmao so you'll dismiss the Spirit bomb because it needs to be charged and then make an argument for the final flash....because it needs to be charged?? Fam....


Again, im making the point that God's are stealing Goku's body because he's been known throughout the world, universe, galaxy as the strongest mortal out and about, not Vegeta. But to entertain your thoughts on Black Goku fighting Vegeta, while Goku was fighting the less powerful albeit IMMORTAL Zamasu, its the norm for Goku to fight the villain that there is no chance of beating. Vegeta was fighting Black because about 5 episodes earlier he was impaled in front of his son and called the opening act when compared to who? Yes, goku. So Vegeta should get his revenge because he's a warrior with pride. He surely won't take an L again this saga right?....... Lol the prince is taking a L next week's episode

One takes a few minutes and one takes a few hours. I don't see how you don't see the difference.

 

[phar0]

ep 64 is up on crunchyroll with subs 

 

[lamekilla]

Dude stole his body because Goku was the one that handed him a fade.

Cmon son

So why do you have to be reminded that Goku is consistently handing out fades (which is why his body was stolen, by a GOD) and Vegeta constantly takes them, thus making Goku angrier and handing out...uhp more fades

Spirit Bomb charging and final flash charging are two different things   

We've passed the realm of variables. It's straight up who's stronger. Spirit Bomb is the strongest technique, only Goku knows it. Kaioken multiplies your power level, only Goku knows it. All these powerful techniques that only Goku can perform because no one else is as STRONG as him and yet him and Vegeta are equal

Again this Goku's show, Vegeta is just a supporting character.

 

[waitwut]

ep 64 is up on crunchyroll with subs 

repped came in for this
knowing how this thread is with spoilers i aint stickin around til after

 

[lamekilla]

Son stays reaching to prop Goku up. Zamasu stealing Goku's body has EVERYTHING to do with Goku beating him in a fight and NOTHING to do with Goku being well-known or some ****. Stop it.

Dude will bend the **** over backwards to make Goku look better

Black called Vegeta the opening act after he washes him. If Vegeta is so great, why was his strength not acknowledged?

One takes a few minutes and one takes a few hours. I don't see how you don't see the difference.

Now we're counting time it takes to finish the attack? I thought this was straight up, who's strongest. Spirit Bomb is a stronger attack than Final Flash. If we argue the time angle than kamehameha doesn't take as long to charge than Final Flash. So no charged attacks, Goku wins. Charged attacks, Goku wins. Power multiplier, Goku wins.

 

[the qbz]

Are we talking about all around
Mind body soul strength
Or just who strongest

 

[bamez]

But All-Chan is Goku's friend

 

[lamekilla]

Are we talking about all around
Mind body soul strength
Or just who strongest

All of the above, who's stronger right now. The only time Vegeta has ever been stronger than Goku was when Goku was dying of a heart virus or Vegeta going into the hyperbolic time chamber before Goku. Son soled his soul thinking he finally had the one up on Goku and was still in for a rude awakening. Religion couldn't even help Vegeta pass Goku

But All-Chan is Goku's friend

They not hearing you fam. The most powerful being in all of time and space admires Goku and doesn't even know Vegeta's name

 

[jays25]

Son stays reaching to prop Goku up. Zamasu stealing Goku's body has EVERYTHING to do with Goku beating him in a fight and NOTHING to do with Goku being well-known or some ****. Stop it. Dude will bend the **** over backwards to make Goku look better

Black called Vegeta the opening act after he washes him. If Vegeta is so great, why was his strength not acknowledged?

Why does Black need to acknowledge Vegeta's strength when Vegeta has given Black the fade? Frieza didn't acknowledge Vegeta in Resurrection, because he's specifically obsessed with Goku. Doesn't mean a damn thing in regards to how strong Vegeta is or isn't. Just like Zamasu, Frieza was specifically obsessed with Goku because of actions took in the past. Like I said, you stay bending over backwards and misinterpreting this **** in order to make Goku look better. Zamasu took Goku's body because Goku whooped his ***. He KNEW about Goku because of that incident. Any person who had done the same would have ended up with their body taken. Trying to talk about Goku being super famous so Zamasu took his body cause of that Stop it.

 

[waitwut]

gowasu need to throw goku and vegeta them earrings asap

 

[lamekilla]

Why does Black need to acknowledge Vegeta's strength when Vegeta has given Black the fade?

Frieza didn't acknowledge Vegeta in Resurrection, because he's specifically obsessed with Goku. Doesn't mean a damn thing in regards to how strong Vegeta is or isn't. Just like Zamasu, Frieza was specifically obsessed with Goku because of actions took in the past.

Pretty sure Black said that to Vegeta before black was given the "quasi-fade". And Frieza didn't acknowledge Vegeta's strength which is why he was caught off guard, you're right.

 

[jays25]

Why does Black need to acknowledge Vegeta's strength when Vegeta has given Black the fade? Frieza didn't acknowledge Vegeta in Resurrection, because he's specifically obsessed with Goku. Doesn't mean a damn thing in regards to how strong Vegeta is or isn't. Just like Zamasu, Frieza was specifically obsessed with Goku because of actions took in the past.

Pretty sure Black said that to Vegeta before black was given the "quasi-fade". And Frieza didn't acknowledge Vegeta's strength which is why he was caught off guard, you're right.

Ok and then he caught a fade, making the statement even more pointless and proving my point.

 

[Top Boy]

 

Why does Black need to acknowledge Vegeta's strength when Vegeta has given Black the fade?

Frieza didn't acknowledge Vegeta in Resurrection, because he's specifically obsessed with Goku. Doesn't mean a damn thing in regards to how strong Vegeta is or isn't. Just like Zamasu, Frieza was specifically obsessed with Goku because of actions took in the past.

Pretty sure Black said that to Vegeta before black was given the "quasi-fade". And Frieza didn't acknowledge Vegeta's strength which is why he was caught off guard, you're right.

 

[lamekilla]

Ok and then he caught a fade, making the statement even more pointless and proving my point.

but what are we arguing here? Goku ultimately defeated Frieza and theirs a reason why these villains are always looking for Goku and disregard Vegeta like the ugly friend. How are they equal when vegeta is literally always the "opening act"? Even Golden Frieza was sonned by Goku but Goku showed him mercy when he could've ended it....

 

Im confused, is this a reference to Vegeta being ****?

 

[jays25]

Ok and then he caught a fade, making the statement even more pointless and proving my point.

but what are we arguing here? Goku ultimately defeated Frieza and theirs a reason why these villains are always looking for Goku and disregard Vegeta like the ugly friend. How are they equal when vegeta is literally always the "opening act"? Even Golden Frieza was sonned by Goku but Goku showed him mercy when he could've ended it....

We're arguing about my original statement, which is that your original statement about Zamasu stealing Goku's body because of Goku's fame was wrong. Plain and simple. You were wrong.

 

[lamekilla]

We're arguing about my original statement, which is that your original statement about Zamasu stealing Goku's body because of Goku's fame was wrong. Plain and simple. You were wrong.

So Zamasu had no knowledge of Goku and stole his body simply because he got faded by him, yet he knew Vegeta's history well enough to call him an opening act when compared to Goku? Zamasu did no research on Goku, he just wanted his body..... interesting....and wrong.

 

[jays25]

We're arguing about my original statement, which is that your original statement about Zamasu stealing Goku's body because of Goku's fame was wrong. Plain and simple. You were wrong.

So Zamasu had no knowledge of Goku and stole his body simply because he got faded by him, yet he knew Vegeta's history well enough to call him an opening act when compared to Goku? Zamasu did no research on Goku, he just wanted his body..... interesting....and wrong.

Umm, yes. Here you go, reaching again. Zamasu stole Goku's body so he MUST have had an in-depth knowledge of Goku's history so let me go ahead and make this bold statement. You literally have zero proof of what you're talking about, but are treating it as a fact Again, stop it.

Don't know why it's hard to believe that a person would want to steal the body of someone stronger than him. You're also acting as if calling Vegeta an opening act means he was referring to Vegeta's past or some ****, rather than making a statement based on wanting to fight Goku

 

[goldmember]

Zamasu and Gowasu probably saw Vegeta vs Hit on GODTUBE and were like TF is this ****?

 

[Based Jesus]

Beerus took Goku to go check out Zamasu. Goku sonned Zamasu. Zamasu got jealous and stole Goku's body. That's it.

Dude didn't google this ***** and stalk his facebook/twitter/instagram. He met him, got washed and dried, and got jealous.

If Beerus took Vegeta instead then we'd be doing all this with Vegeta which honestly would have made it more interesting.

 

[lamekilla]

Umm, yes. Here you go, reaching again. Zamasu stole Goku's body so he MUST have had an in-depth knowledge of Goku's history so let me go ahead and make this bold statement. You literally have zero proof of what you're talking about, but are treating it as a fact

Again, stop it.

Don't know why it's hard to believe that a person would want to steal the body of someone stronger than him. You're also acting as if calling Vegeta an opening act means he was referring to Vegeta's past or some ****, rather than making a statement based on wanting to fight Goku

So Zamasu didn't ask Zuno about Goku...

 

[jays25]

Umm, yes. Here you go, reaching again. Zamasu stole Goku's body so he MUST have had an in-depth knowledge of Goku's history so let me go ahead and make this bold statement. You literally have zero proof of what you're talking about, but are treating it as a fact Again, stop it.


Don't know why it's hard to believe that a person would want to steal the body of someone stronger than him. You're also acting as if calling Vegeta an opening act means he was referring to Vegeta's past or some ****, rather than making a statement based on wanting to fight Goku

So Zamasu didn't ask Zuno about Goku...

Which he did after Goku gave him the fade This entire arc is based around Goku randomly showing up and giving this dude a fade But again, you stay reaching like always.