.::Official Cincinnati Bengals @ Oakland Raiders Post::.Week 11 - 4:15 PST Kickoff

Originally Posted by Troponin C

to be honest 2-14 doesn't seem all that unlikely.

But I honestly think that no matter what happens at the end of this season, Al is going to make some drastic changes (either hire a GM or abruptly discontinue his meddling with football game plans & coaching). Enough is enough & I think even Al understands that.

I read an article earlier this season where Al actually admitted that he was frustrated over the team's performance.

I don't know, maybe i'm just wishfully thinking.
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Do you have a link to the article?
 
Who wants to read an interview with Chad OchoCinco?

Chad Ochocinco, (mostly) uncensored

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, November 18th, 2009 at 10:17 am in Oakland Raiders.

Conference calls are often routine affairs, but not in the case of Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco. No sense in doing much editing on this one.Particularly interesting were Ochocinco's observations on cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and his thoughts about how catching passes ought to be a refined skillby the time a receiver enters the NFL as a rookie.

Q: Hello, Chad, how are you doing?

Ochcinco: OK, hello. Hola. Como esta?

Q: Bien, y usted?

Ochocinco: Cool, cool, cool.

Q: Any news to report from the Ocho Cinco News Network?

Ochocinco: Oh, man, I'm just coming to give the Black Hole the best show they've ever seen. I'm not sure if they've really had much to lookforward to this year but, man, we're coming to town. It will for damned sure be a circus.

Q: Are you sending the Raiders any gifts this week?

Ochocinco: No, no, no, I can't pay for shipping and handling. That's too damn far.

Q: What are your thoughts about going up against Asomugha?

Ochocinco: It's going to be fun. It was fun the last time I went against him, it's going to be fun this time I go against him. I can't wait.

Q: Did you play against his team when you were at Oregon State?

Ochocinco: I can't remember. All I remember is playing against him when we played Oakland the last time he was here, when Fabian was on the other side.That was fun. I enjoyed it.

Q: That was the last time a team went at Asomugha. How much do you keep tabs on Asomugha's exploits?

Ochocinco: Not at all, not at all. I never have. Everyone says he's the best defensive back in the NFL, so I just go along and I agree with everybody elseand then I will permit to go out there Sunday and have my fun, like I usually do every week. So, it's no different. He's an awesome, awesome defensiveback. I watch him on film. I've dissected every single technique that he does. Every single one. So, he's really awesome and he's one of the fewcornerbacks, where any defensive coordinator, I don't care what team he played on, he makes a defense that much easier when you can leave somebody likethat on an island by yourself and you can actually lock down one side.

Q: Does it make it that much more fun for you?

Ochocinco: Exactly. There you go. Exactly. You put it together. I can't F-ing wait, excuse my language.

Q: Is it odd that he doesn't trash-talk much?

Ochocinco: He doesn't. I tried to frustrate him the last time he was here, and he doesn't say much. So, I don't know. But he is the best. I'mnot going to sit here and play around about it. I've watched him on film. I actually got cut-ups on him. When I saw the schedule, I get the cut-ups on whoI think I need to study. So, once I saw the schedule for the 2009 season, him and Champ were the first ones, the only two, where I said, 'Let me see whatthey did last year and see who they went against that was of quality' and just get a jump on them. I've studied him this year, and it's still thesame: he's one of the best.

Q: How much more fun does it make it when you guys are winning?

Ochocinco: It makes it a lot better. It makes it a lot better. Even though it's fun to be winning, but my fun has to be, quote, put to a minimum because Iget out of control. So, coach Lewis kind of got me in a little bind right now about doing some of the things that I do. So, there's no care packages goingout.

Q: Why did you feel so confident that the Bengals were going to go 12-4?

Ochocinco: Because I just know. I don't know why people always continue to … If you ever follow me, anytime I say I've said anything regardingfootball, which is all I know, I've never been wrong. Whether I'm guaranteeing a win, whether I'm talking about beating a defensive back thatfollowing Sunday, I've never been wrong. So, I don't know why people, when I say something outlandish like, 'I think we're going to go12-4,' I can see it. I'm the one here working. I'm the one that's training with this team. I see the team every day. The outsiders base theirinformation on what we did last year. Last year means nothing. It means nothing, and that's why they laugh when I say 12-4 before the season even started.I saw this coming. I saw it coming.

Q: What was it that you saw of this turnaround coming?

Ochocinco: Man, the offense itself, everything. The offense, the defense. Really, the defense, they're saving us. I mean, it's not that we're doingbad but as an offense, we're not that '05 (team) where we were putting up 30 points just for no god damn reason. That's how we were. We were justscoring just to be scoring, for no reason at all. But we're playing good football. We're not playing great football as an offense. But we'replaying good football, we're winning games, we're making enough plays to win at the end.

Q: Were you ready to come in as a rookie and play a lot?

Ochocinco: Uhh. Yeah, I think so because after that rookie year, once I got to that second year, it was a wrap. I took off from there. There was no lookingback.

Q: Did you think you should be starting as a rookie?

Ochocinco: No, no, no, no, no. I wasn't ready then. No. no. Not like that, not to be No. 1. No.

Q: How did you handle dropped passes as a young player?

Ochocinco: My second year I had a big drop that really kind of messed me up. I remember Jon Kitna was my quarterback. I dropped a ball that really caused us tolose. That was '02? I never forget that. That was the turnaround to my career right there. I remember Kitna saying there's two things that couldhappen. Either this play right here is going to make you and ruin your career or you're going to build off of it and shoot for the stars from this point.

Q: Can you teach sure hands as receiver?

Ochocinco: It's natural man. It's natural. You have some people who are just natural pass catchers and everything is smooth. Then you see somereceivers and they sort of fight with the ball, it's a struggle. Or you have some who always catch with their chest. I'm just natural. I lovethe ball.If you ever watch me play, I make love to the ball when it comes in.

Q: That's you but how about a receiver that's not as natural catching the ball?

Ochocinco: Yes, you have to work on it. You can't be in the NFL and try to work on it now because it's too late . . . I'm not trying to be funnyguys. Come on now, seriously. When you get to this point this is not the point where you need to be coached. This is the point where you need to get better atyour craft but you should already come in with a foundation already set. You should be ready to play. You can't come into the NFL as a receiver, be in theNFL and then they have to teach you howto play receiver. Because you're missing the boat, you're going to miss the ship if you don't know how toplay receiver before you get here. You're going to miss the ship already.

Q: How big of a boost has Benson been?

Ochocinco: Oh man, Ced is awesome man. Ced is awesome. There's nothing else I can say. He's playing awesome. He's injured now but that will be goneand he'll be back this week.

Q: What has been key to your turnaround?

Ochocinco: I don't know man, I don't know. Dude, watching the Raiders on (expletive) defense that front line is awesome, the corners are awesome. Ican't for the life of me understand how they are not winning. I don't get it. I don't get it. Because what I see on film, the record does not show.Because they look a lot better than their record shows so I'm not understanding what's going on.

Q: Were you a Raiders fan in LA?

Ochocinco: No man. I've always been a Miami Dolphins fan since I was a baby. Nothing's changed. I'm from Miami that's all I know man.

Q: Thoughts on Russell?

Ochocinco: Man JaMarcus is extremely good. You have to remember a quarterback can only be as good as his supporting cast. Case closed. Always. It will alwaysbe that way. Always. You put a Tom Brady or a Peyton Manning, you take them out of their supporting casts, you take them out of the elements they're innow, and you put them in JaMarcus' situation do you think it would be that much better. I'm just asking. Realistically.

Q: Not when you have a different offensive coordinator every year, rookie receivers, I guess probably not.

Ochocinco: Thank you. Thank you. JaMarcus is a great quarterback but he can only be as good as his supporting cast. People have to remember that.

Thank you guys. Hello? Somebody tell Nnamdi. Don't forget to relay this message. The message is, I love you but you've got to kiss the baby. All rightguys. Tell Nnamdi I say hello to him. I haven't talked to him for a long time so just gives him a heads up for me. All right. Thanks guys.

More to come later . . .
 
These are the only things that get you respect. Win one this decade and you'll get it. We need another one soon. Winning won 26 years ago doesn't cutit.

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Russell is getting benched for the season, so we should at least be able to move the ball... A little too late, say bye bye to your job Cable, and please hirea GM after this disastrous season is over Al. I still got da Raiders in this one though! Keep that record going
 
Originally Posted by HipHopDoc09

Damn still no respect for the bengals?
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What the hell are you talking about? Don't nobody in they right mind, ESPECIALLY Raider fans, think Oakland is winning this weekend?

_'s love to play the "no respect" card.
 
Originally Posted by HipHopDoc09

Damn still no respect for the bengals?
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What the hell are you talking about? Don't nobody in they right mind, ESPECIALLY Raider fans, think Oakland is winning this weekend?

_'s love to play the "no respect" card.
 
Originally Posted by 651akathePaul

Russell out, Gradkowski in. I got Oakland in the upset.
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I just saw that. I'm excited to see what Gradkowski can do. Here's to Oakland winning you some money.
 
Originally Posted by AG 47

Originally Posted by 651akathePaul

Russell out, Gradkowski in. I got Oakland in the upset.
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I just saw that. I'm excited to see what Gradkowski can do. Here's to Oakland winning you some money.
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I hope to all mighty god that bruce is the long term answer for the QB conundrum in Oaktown.
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I think he's shown us that he has a good connection with the receivers, now let's just hope he doesn't turn the ball over...

anyway, I hope Mike Bush/Fargas have some fun this sunday, lord knows they deserve it. They play with a toughness/determination that a certain unmentionedother running back who has been noticeably missing in all but one game this season has not shown.
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Seriously, where the !#** is DMC?
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Originally Posted by Troponin C

I'm excited to see how the chemistry between
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DHB sucks. Did u see the 1 where ball hit in the hands right on the money he knocked it up in air and db int'd it.
 
Originally Posted by JumpmanJordanAddict89

DHB sucks. Did u see the 1 where ball hit in the hands right on the money he knocked it up in air and db int'd it.
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I know he sucks right now.
but it ain't like that can't change in the foreseeable future, Bruce & him seem to have a special connection.

BTW, if you must know, the play immediately preceding the tipped ball, he made a great sideline catch.
 
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