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Is there like a deeper reason why female artists like Ashanti, Amerie, Keri Hilson, Ciara slowed down, while Beyonce and Rihanna are still going strong?

I have this conversation with people all the time. I don't have an answer.

Rihanna is where she is because of Chris Brown stomping her sideways. There were rumors of her getting dropped right before that incident.

In my opinion, Keri Hilson makes the best music out of all of them. Writes and sings her own **** and she got my favorite album out of all the artists you listed. Ashanti got some joints too. Ciara has never had a good album, just good songs. I've never liked a Beyonce album outside of a few songs. She sounds fake and disingenuous. Like she's a robot just going through the motions.
 
Beyonce been around since 97/98. I wouldn't include her in that group.
 
Is there like a deeper reason why female artists like Ashanti, Amerie, Keri Hilson, Ciara slowed down, while Beyonce and Rihanna are still going strong?


Like Baller said Keri is very talented. She should still be around. Ciara can dance her *** off but she went away from her sound. She shoulda took Futures advise and kept making those Body Party like records.

Rihanna... I'm still tryna figure what she's talented at. She ain't a good singer, ain't a good dancer. She can wind and that's it. I think she got a great team around her that keeps her hot. Keeps writing catchy/hit records for her and her sex appeal is crazy.


There are songs where Rihanna's voice sounds terrible. That song on Kanyes last album. Man :lol :x
 
^transgenders and what bathrooms they can use . i've never heard their conversations escalate the way did this episode .

it was charlamagne and shultz at the height of their persona's . . .
 


this is why hot can be annoying . it might be time for ebro to go back to being behind the scenes and let rosenberg run the morning show .

rosenberg obviously got where he was coming from but ebro being so dismissive when vegas had a point is annoying . like bro we know u cool with drake and we know you work for apple / beats 1 . as if you'd ever be unbiased on anything drake related . like why even take his call ? he played himself the same way when that trump supporter called in .
 
this is why hot can be annoying . it might be time for ebro to go back to being behind the scenes and let rosenberg run the morning show .

rosenberg obviously got where he was coming from but ebro being so dismissive when vegas had a point is annoying . like bro we know u cool with drake and we know you work for apple / beats 1 . as if you'd ever be unbiased on anything drake related . like why even take his call ? he played himself the same way when that trump supporter called in .

Heard that live...made me realize Reggaeton is now more popular than reggae/dancehall :lol :{
 
My God Ebro is a **** rider.

He's being so obtuse especially to be in NYC.

Why does he think anyone gives a **** about what moves he wants to see in dancehall or anything else.

Is there like a deeper reason why female artists like Ashanti, Amerie, Keri Hilson, Ciara slowed down, while Beyonce and Rihanna are still going strong?

Hard work and a great team.

You can not like Bey but you can't deny that woman has been going hard since she became a solo artist.

Rihanna has her hands in everything which I honestly believe is what keeps her music career going. I listened to Anti for the first time today and her voice is absolutely terrible but I'm always gonna check for her singles and what she's wearing. That girl can pick some hits and she put herself in a position as a fashion icon. She'll never get any money from me to watch her perform live but I'm checking for her puma shoes and any other fashion deals she may have going on.

Amerie has songs that I like but nothing ever stood out about her. She's not an amazing singer. She doesn't dance.

Ashanti had a great run IMO. I love Ashanti but I can admit she's not a great singer and she damn sure can't dance. She had 3 platinum albums. She probably lost momentum when all the legal stuff went down with Irv.

Did anyone really expect Ciara to be a major star? If she hadn't had a baby and the dram that followed with Future no one would be talking about her in 2016 and I say that as a person who has enjoyed some of her music. She can dance but that's about it. I don't know why she tries to do any music that doesn't involve her killing some choreography.

I never heard a Keri album but she's absolutely gorgeous and she got to **** Serge so she wins life. She has songs that I like but she always seemed corny to me. Maybe her timing was just bad and NO ONE was here for her after her shots at Beyonce. I don't think she ever recovered from that.
 
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Ebro is such a ****** clown. When is the last time you had a Dancehall song in your rotation? Ugghhh, I didn't like your last record.

I agree with Vegas.
 
with women it's either you're the head cheerleader or you're nothing

no other reason some of these other women aren't around

in keri's case she committed career suicide by taking all those shots at b, it was the equivalent of meek vs drake or ll and cannibus
 
ashanti had a great run and she's still up . ashanti just didn't evolve with the times , but she'll be fine . ashanti will always be able to make money 

ciara is another one who had a great run , but didn't evolve well . she was perfect for the time she was out but when she moved away from the girl next door and on to the sexy vibe that threw fans off . promise was the joint but she fizzled out after trying to go for what felt like a sexier pop lane when really she could've had urban on lock . ironically future gave her the last hit she had that mattered with body party because it was closer to her earlier records like 1 2 step and oh

amerie started making wack music . most of the songs she was putting out after 1 thing were ok , but not 1 thing or fall in love fire level . her first album had JOINTS, but nothing really held up afterwards . that and getting married to someone who was successful , I'm sure it was a lot easier for her to fall back and play the stay at home roll 

keri is like everyone already stated . bey was crossing over into that cult michael jackson like stardom and keri taking shots flat out ended her 

rihanna is just the anti bey . once she started the good girl gone bad schtick she gave a lane to girls that felt like they couldn't measure up to what beyonce stood for . bey is who women aspire to bey , but rihanna is who most of them are right now . its a generational gap . even tho they grew up on bey , rihanna is what most of them identify with currently . bey wouldn't be caught dead twerking , getting high , showing up at award shows in see threw clothing, or going to hooded out strip clubs so openly . all of that activity is mainstream now 

you also gotta look at how territorial women can be and how they view other women . i honestly feel like cassie would've been huge if she wasn't so pretty . before she failed at 106 , women already had it made up in their mind they didn't like her because she looked like a model and they couldn't identify with that . and if talent really mattered, judith hill would be a platinum selling artist
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but honestly , none of them are on my radar like that unless its on the radio . id like to see rochelle jordan win 
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I thought Ciara could be a star just off dancing alone. I don't think she's a very good singer, basically an Aaliyah with dancing ability. I thought her and Chris Brown either having songs or performing epic dance routines woukd be something huge, but it just never popped off like I expected it to
 
Is there like a deeper reason why female artists like Ashanti, Amerie, Keri Hilson, Ciara slowed down, while Beyonce and Rihanna are still going strong?


Like Baller said Keri is very talented. She should still be around. Ciara can dance her *** off but she went away from her sound. She shoulda took Futures advise and kept making those Body Party like records.

Rihanna... I'm still tryna figure what she's talented at. She ain't a good singer, ain't a good dancer. She can wind and that's it. I think she got a great team around her that keeps her hot. Keeps writing catchy/hit records for her and her sex appeal is crazy.


There are songs where Rihanna's voice sounds terrible. That song on Kanyes last album. Man :lol :x

I feel like Rihanna is famous for being Rihanna. All of that Bad Beach persona mixed with being very fashionable is what keeps Rihanna going. I feel like her fans buy into her brand instead of listening to her vocals....

She makes headlines by leaving a big tip at a hair salon then going to a strip club....

I can't front, her brand is strong though.
 
it's crazy cause I never looked at rihanna as fashionable

I see people like teyana taylor in that role

rihanna somehow turned getting punched into her being a bad girl and played it up more and now she's like a character of herself

always felt the chris brown situation was used to survive from being bow wow'd and stuck in the kid role

I don't think either would be talked about much today without that situation
 
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She had started the heel turn before the punch out.

Hence her 3rd album title being "Good Girl Gone Bad". Many believe she's the one that turned Chris Brown out to the hard drugs.
 
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She had started the heel turn before the punch out.

Hence her 3rd album title being "Good Girl Gone Bad". Many believe she's the one that turned Chris Brown out to the hard drugs.

I know

I'm saying the behavior in public didn't happen til after

and the situation helped the turn
 
I do like Rihanna's stuff and think she's talented but if she didn't change up her image to what it is now she would've fallen the way of the other people named up there. I mean being naked, sexy smoking weed is cool & edgy right. Beyoncé is above that kinda stuff at this point since she's older but Rihanna can't just go away for a few years then drop an album and have people over it.

Ciara just needed to put out consistent good stuff which she stopped doing. She's a good performer but it just feels like maybe mismanagement with her

Amerie and Ashanti were jus t products of the time

Keri could've still been doing it but sadly she probably would've needed to do some Rihanna stuff to stay relevant(she tried though with that one song that was garbage)
 
I do like Rihanna's stuff and think she's talented but if she didn't change up her image to what it is now she would've fallen the way of the other people named up there. I mean being naked, sexy smoking weed is cool & edgy right. Beyoncé is above that kinda stuff at this point since she's older but Rihanna can't just go away for a few years then drop an album and have people over it.

Ciara just needed to put out consistent good stuff which she stopped doing. She's a good performer but it just feels like maybe mismanagement with her

Amerie and Ashanti were jus t products of the time

Keri could've still been doing it but sadly she probably would've needed to do some Rihanna stuff to stay relevant(she tried though with that one song that was garbage)
Don't they all end up changing their image to an edgier style?

Beyonce hasn't snorted coke off a bodyguard's head but singing about getting splashed on her blouse is a bit of a departure from her earlier work. 

Keri tried it also. I forget the name of the song but the video was basically soft core porn and the content was super raunchy.
 
it's crazy cause I never looked at rihanna as fashionable

I see people like teyana taylor in that role

rihanna somehow turned getting punched into her being a bad girl and played it up more and now she's like a character of herself

always felt the chris brown situation was used to survive from being bow wow'd and stuck in the kid role

I don't think either would be talked about much today without that situation

Chris Brown would probably be 10x bigger without that incident...

People don't really give him his just due of how talented he is and how long he's lasted because the corny **** he does overshadows that.

It is interesting how there can only be one or two top female artists vs. rap where there can be 5 or 6 guys at the "top" at a time.
 
it's crazy cause I never looked at rihanna as fashionable

I see people like teyana taylor in that role

rihanna somehow turned getting punched into her being a bad girl and played it up more and now she's like a character of herself

always felt the chris brown situation was used to survive from being bow wow'd and stuck in the kid role

I don't think either would be talked about much today without that situation

Chris Brown would probably be 10x bigger without that incident...

People don't really give him his just due of how talented he is and how long he's lasted because the corny **** he does overshadows that.

It is interesting how there can only be one or two top female artists vs. rap where there can be 5 or 6 guys at the "top" at a time.
If Chris brown wasn't Chris brown he would be huge. What I mean is he's super talented but him as a person is probably the biggest thing that's kept him from attaining greatness
 
it's crazy cause I never looked at rihanna as fashionable

I see people like teyana taylor in that role

rihanna somehow turned getting punched into her being a bad girl and played it up more and now she's like a character of herself

always felt the chris brown situation was used to survive from being bow wow'd and stuck in the kid role

I don't think either would be talked about much today without that situation

Teyanna has a cute tomboy style but she's not giving street style and high end red carpet looks like Rih.

Also Breezy was on his way to THE TOP before that Rihanna incident. He had a world tour about to start and he had a huge doublemint gum campaign. He was wholesome and boy next door. I always wonder what he could've been before that.
 
Chris Brown would have always been limited without Rihanna, because he's Chris Brown. He holds himself back trying so hard to be today's Bobby Brown.

He does dumb stuff monthly if not more often. The label wouldn't have been able to cover for him forever. It was inevitable.

Also Chris Brown's music is hit and miss. Despite all he's been through there's not a lot of substance in his music.
 
lol @ Chris Rock's
Chris Brown would have always been limited without Rihanna, because he's Chris Brown. He holds himself back trying so hard to be today's Bobby Brown.

He does dumb stuff monthly if not more often. The label wouldn't have been able to cover for him forever. It was inevitable.

Also Chris Brown's music is hit and miss. Despite all he's been through there's not a lot of substance in his music.

Chris Brown is one of the most talented entertainers we have today , man. That boy had everything going for him pre Rihanna beatdown. He's never fully recovered... he had a hit with Loyal but alot of his songs would have been bigger. No one can tell me 'Zero' wasnt suppose to be a top five hit.
 
Chris brown def took a knock when the situation happened but I don't see him being able to make songs like these **** ain't loyal without the incident

his career was still going upward pre rih but how long would the kid music last?

not many kid stars maintained success in music I can think of off top

main one I can think of is wayne but that's because his content was street from the start even tho he didn't cuss at first and maybe Justin timberlake

and I mentioned teyana cause she works with brands and does alotta collabs and I actually feel rih takes alotta style from her
 
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