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Originally Posted by PanaRicanRetro
Mine are out for delivery right now. The anticipation is killing me. I feel like getting a lawn chair and camping out in front of my house, lol.
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Originally Posted by PanaRicanRetro
Mine are out for delivery right now. The anticipation is killing me. I feel like getting a lawn chair and camping out in front of my house, lol.
Not to chime in on you guy's deep conversation about quality, but a lot of people are talking about cheap leather on the 2012's, but these same people usually (9 times out of 10) don't own the '99's and didn't have the '89 (I do and did). One thing that people don't know or have failed to mention is the fact that both the OG's and the '99's weren't even leather. The previous release were made from synthetic leather. If you have the '99's pull your pair out and see. You will notice that you don't see suede on the backside of your (supposedly) leather, but rather an cloth like material. You most likely can't tell by now if your pair is in very used condition, but if you have DS pair left over like I do, you can see what I'm talking about. Leather is always on the opposite side of suede and vice verse for suede. The 2012 version is the first version that real leather was used.Originally Posted by jamazing
Originally Posted by SWADE23
Originally Posted by spizike231
He was probably shaking his head at your last statement about you wishing that JB made all of their kicks like this.. I know I shook my head at it.
The quality on these wasn't bad, but come on people these are nowhere near what we should be getting at these prices.
I HEAR YA... APPARENTLY QUALITY IS A RELATIVE TERM... I MEAN THEY ARE 160 BUCK JORDANS, NOT 3-400 DOLLAR GUCCI KICKS... IMO THESE PARTICULAR SHOES ARE MONEY WELL SPENT... AS OPPOSED TO THE RECENT BLACK CEMENT 3'S OR THE WHITE 9'S FROM 05 OR THE WHITE 8'S BACK IN 2000-WHATEVER WHICH CREASED COMING OUT OF THE BOX...
It doesn't crease because the leather is stiff and is poor quality. Better shoes with quality leather will crease with wear. I'm not saying I disliked the shoes, I liked them a lot, but these are not quality. Quality is a relative term. Quality compared to the CDP bred IV? Regarding the midsole, better.
Originally Posted by DownyBoy
How quick is the shipping from SNS?
Originally Posted by sincere
Not to chime in on you guy's deep conversation about quality, but a lot of people are talking about cheap leather on the 2012's, but these same people usually (9 times out of 10) don't own the '99's and didn't have the '89 (I do and did). One thing that people don't know or have failed to mention is the fact that both the OG's and the '99's weren't even leather. The previous release were made from synthetic leather. If you have the '99's pull your pair out and see. You will notice that you don't see suede on the backside of your (supposedly) leather, but rather an cloth like material. You most likely can't tell by now if your pair is in very used condition, but if you have DS pair left over like I do, you can see what I'm talking about. Leather is always on the opposite side of suede and vice verse for suede. The 2012 version is the first version that real leather was used.Originally Posted by jamazing
Originally Posted by SWADE23
I HEAR YA... APPARENTLY QUALITY IS A RELATIVE TERM... I MEAN THEY ARE 160 BUCK JORDANS, NOT 3-400 DOLLAR GUCCI KICKS... IMO THESE PARTICULAR SHOES ARE MONEY WELL SPENT... AS OPPOSED TO THE RECENT BLACK CEMENT 3'S OR THE WHITE 9'S FROM 05 OR THE WHITE 8'S BACK IN 2000-WHATEVER WHICH CREASED COMING OUT OF THE BOX...
It doesn't crease because the leather is stiff and is poor quality. Better shoes with quality leather will crease with wear. I'm not saying I disliked the shoes, I liked them a lot, but these are not quality. Quality is a relative term. Quality compared to the CDP bred IV? Regarding the midsole, better.
I know this and have experience this back in '89-'90 (my freshman year of H.S.) when I wore my Fire Red's and White Cements to the ground. I wore them so much that I could see the soft cloth like material coming from underneath the big toe portion of my toe box. Believe me, the white squeeze bottle shoe polish (Kiwi) of that time, couldn't make that dirty grey threading white again. It just made it look like grey cloth with a horrible white paint job on it. Lol! Don't laugh, I wasn't the only kid who made 2 pairs of shoes a year last.
I wouldn't have cared if these were the same synthetic leather or this real leather, because I've already experience all of the releases, plus I still have one last pair in the vault. I'm not going to even get into how mad I got after the first wear of the OG's & '99's, but lets just say that these 2012's are holding up better then my first wear of the OG's & '99's. We are all entitled to our opinions about the differences (Shape, height, netting, color and etc.) of the 2012 vs. the previous versions, but it's not going to change your mind nor more than it's going to change mine. In my experienced opinion, these 2012's are holding up very nice. I could care less if the leather is cheap or not, because this leather is holding up better than the synthetic leather of yesterday. Well, they're holding up well at this point and time. Only time will tell me, which leather (synthetic or real) was better. Until then...
Originally Posted by mattwhite2385
they are probably making it with crappy letaher bc all the "sneaker heads" dont want their kicks creasing... JB is listening and making more money off of ppl that dont know what they are talking about or waht they really want lolOriginally Posted by jamazing
Originally Posted by SWADE23
Originally Posted by spizike231
He was probably shaking his head at your last statement about you wishing that JB made all of their kicks like this.. I know I shook my head at it.
The quality on these wasn't bad, but come on people these are nowhere near what we should be getting at these prices.
I HEAR YA... APPARENTLY QUALITY IS A RELATIVE TERM... I MEAN THEY ARE 160 BUCK JORDANS, NOT 3-400 DOLLAR GUCCI KICKS... IMO THESE PARTICULAR SHOES ARE MONEY WELL SPENT... AS OPPOSED TO THE RECENT BLACK CEMENT 3'S OR THE WHITE 9'S FROM 05 OR THE WHITE 8'S BACK IN 2000-WHATEVER WHICH CREASED COMING OUT OF THE BOX...
It doesn't crease because the leather is stiff and is poor quality. Better shoes with quality leather will crease with wear. I'm not saying I disliked the shoes, I liked them a lot, but these are not quality. Quality is a relative term. Quality compared to the CDP bred IV? Regarding the midsole, better.
Originally Posted by southwesthouston
I dont see anything wrong with your pair bro! Keep them! All pairs I've seen don't have same exact cement pattern, it's normal
Yeah, I just wanted to bring the whole leather issue into an honest perspective, since the OG's & '99's weren't leather at all, but rather a form of synthetic leather. I think that the people really needed to know this fact of the material used before 2012, because this fact has been widely overlooked and/or ignored. Thanks and I appreciate the positivity.Originally Posted by DJ Proto J
Originally Posted by sincere
Not to chime in on you guy's deep conversation about quality, but a lot of people are talking about cheap leather on the 2012's, but these same people usually (9 times out of 10) don't own the '99's and didn't have the '89 (I do and did). One thing that people don't know or have failed to mention is the fact that both the OG's and the '99's weren't even leather. The previous release were made from synthetic leather. If you have the '99's pull your pair out and see. You will notice that you don't see suede on the backside of your (supposedly) leather, but rather an cloth like material. You most likely can't tell by now if your pair is in very used condition, but if you have DS pair left over like I do, you can see what I'm talking about. Leather is always on the opposite side of suede and vice verse for suede. The 2012 version is the first version that real leather was used.Originally Posted by jamazing
I know this and have experience this back in '89-'90 (my freshman year of H.S.) when I wore my Fire Red's and White Cements to the ground. I wore them so much that I could see the soft cloth like material coming from underneath the big toe portion of my toe box. Believe me, the white squeeze bottle shoe polish (Kiwi) of that time, couldn't make that dirty grey threading white again. It just made it look like grey cloth with a horrible white paint job on it. Lol! Don't laugh, I wasn't the only kid who made 2 pairs of shoes a year last.
I wouldn't have cared if these were the same synthetic leather or this real leather, because I've already experience all of the releases, plus I still have one last pair in the vault. I'm not going to even get into how mad I got after the first wear of the OG's & '99's, but lets just say that these 2012's are holding up better then my first wear of the OG's & '99's. We are all entitled to our opinions about the differences (Shape, height, netting, color and etc.) of the 2012 vs. the previous versions, but it's not going to change your mind nor more than it's going to change mine. In my experienced opinion, these 2012's are holding up very nice. I could care less if the leather is cheap or not, because this leather is holding up better than the synthetic leather of yesterday. Well, they're holding up well at this point and time. Only time will tell me, which leather (synthetic or real) was better. Until then...
hhhmmmm, interesting...
it's nice to hear someone's perspective old enough to have been around for both of the previous retro's and able to actually give an educated opinion on them all...
Originally Posted by YANO
my sns order finally came today. came with stickers, poster and a necklace. everything looks great,except for the heel tabs are aliltle off tho. i might flip it or wear it as beaters. smh jordan brand.
Originally Posted by southwesthouston
Like one is taller than the other ? One pair of 3s I got last year is like that but can't really notice so I kept them
Originally Posted by YANO
Originally Posted by southwesthouston
I dont see anything wrong with your pair bro! Keep them! All pairs I've seen don't have same exact cement pattern, it's normal
its the heeltabs bro, their both off. ill take some pics later. anyway nobody will notice it when its on my feet lol, i might keep it.
Originally Posted by ekhunter1
are these available anywhere still??? how much they going for on the auction site??? thanks guys!!