**OFFICIAL 2019 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD**

[keko jones]

Booker is special, though.

It's not on him that the other 11 guys aren't good enough.

I'm not arguing how special or not he is, since hes been drafted they haven't won 25 games in a year. This will make 4 conservative lottery picks.

All I'm saying, right now he is not a difference maker and although he has done some good things, it can be interpreted as empty stats.

I understand they might not have the best roster, but look at the Knicks man. They have no one near the offensive talent Devin has shown and yet they have almost identical records.

 

[Quincy McCall]

Happy jersey day to the goat

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Inside the Phoenix Suns' messy and dysfunctional front office


Screw this entire article...a decade of gross mismanagement and incompetence...tuh...who cares.

 

[nick.]

100% of this energy towards Booker should be directed at Rob Sarver

 

[MVP]

Booker is my guy, has been since his rookie year, even dubbed him the beige mamba, but it's fair to question whether he is affecting winning while also acknowledging the skill he obviously possess. No reason for the Suns record to be getting worse every season while adding top tier talent. They're going to get another top 3 pick and he's going to be starting to make superstar money, the judgments are fair.

BIG LEEMELONE does make a great point, the blog boys in here aren't consistent at all using their own criteria. Russ is a perfect example, he's nothing but a stat padder and empty stats even though the team performs markedly better when he gets those stats. Yet everybody else is such and such. Kevin Love was roasted as an empty starts guy for years cause his team never made the playoffs but even he was winning 'more' than Book.

There's absolutely bias on here given what uniform a certain player has on or whether y'all like his advanced stats or not. One minute counting stats matter and the next they don't. I've pointed this out several times using their own logic against them.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Did anyone actually refer to him as a top 15 guy....or is this you creating yet another strawman?

Stay woke

 

[nick.]

Inside the Phoenix Suns' messy and dysfunctional front office


Screw this entire article...a decade of gross mismanagement and incompetence...tuh...who cares.

He just got a pay raise so he should be elevating Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, & TJ Warren to the playoffs.

 

[freeze]

Can’t even remember what it’s like to care about NBA basketball this time of year

Y’all in here talmbout playoff seeding smh

you gotta have a contingency team my g. you're doing yourself a disservice. you deserve some fun too.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Did anyone actually refer to him as a top 15 guy....or is this you creating yet another strawman?

No but i have heard of him considered as a "Special" player, a possible franchise guy, an ELITE player.... all of those are things he isn't and hasn't come close to proving

 

[freeze]

Dudes not on no cute **** with that trainer anymore.

 

[nick.]

but the way some of you guys frame it, it's like he's a top 15 talent RIGHT NOW

Did anyone actually refer to him as a top 15 guy?

No

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Stay woke

Sometimes I don't know when you're trolling or when you're trying to be serious.

Is that a conversation about POSITIONAL rankings? Is a conversation about positional rankings the same as overall?

 

[hardens beard]

Could swore addict4sneakers was talking about Booker being a top 10 SG.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Stay woke

You’re ignoring positional rankings. Again.
Never change, Stanley.

 

[jumpman91023]

Booker has flaws but what was the excuse for Kyrie when he had the same lack of success his first 3 years in Cleveland...

 

[amitt5504]

To makes things clear, if you are a SPECIAL and ELITE talent, what are the expectations? Especially by year 4

 

[Lizakers]

you gotta have a contingency team my g. you're doing yourself a disservice. you deserve some fun too.

I feel u. This might not be popular here. But champions league and premier league soccer keeps me goin. B-ball is my first love though. I refuse to have a backup team, Lakers or bust for me since age 6.

 

[freeze]

 

[MVP]

Booker has flaws but what was the excuse for Kyrie when he had the same lack of success his first 3 years in Cleveland...

Again the Cavs were improving every year with Kyrie at least record wise.

The Suns have either maintained or regressed. That's absolutely a fair criticism.

Yes they're young, yes they're dysfunctional but we've seen other cores that weren't picking at the top of the draft improve every season.

It's going to be magnified now that Booker is making superstar money. I believe in his talent but it has to start to translate to wins on the court. Or he'll deserve the same criticism all the other guys get.

 

[freeze]

Still saying it's not close??

 

[N41D]

Draft position be damned. You 30Ms a year your team shouldn't be a dumpster fire.

I get not making the playoffs but if you haven't even won 30 games in your career 4 years in I'm questioning if you are a difference maker.

Bingo.

Booker is special, though.

It's not on him that the other 11 guys aren't good enough.

How many special basketball players have 4 sub-25 win seasons on their resume?

The Phoenix Suns aren't the only dumpster fire franchise in basketball history.

 

[keko jones]

He just got a pay raise so he should be elevating Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, & TJ Warren to the playoffs.

Well, maybe the team shouldnt have giving him a pay raise and spread that money on talent.

Dont understand what's so hard to understand.

Or do you think a pay raise is warranted for the same amount of wins or less?
SMH

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

No but i have heard of him considered as a "Special" player, a possible franchise guy, an ELITE player.... all of those are things he isn't and hasn't come close to proving

To makes things clear, if you are a SPECIAL and ELITE talent, what are the expectations? Especially by year 4

Bunch of teana trumps in here. They're not gonna say it's Lance, but they're telling you it's lance. Don't wanna call him top 15 but want to describe him as a top 15 player

 

[nick.]

Well, maybe the team shouldnt have giving him a pay raise and spread that money on talent.

Dont understand what's so hard to understand.

Or do you think a pay raise is warranted for the same amount of wins or less?
SMH

So let Devin Booker walk and sign whom?

Who is Phoenix attracting that's a) better than Booker and b) capable of leading them to playoff contention?

 

[amitt5504]

So let Devin Booker walk and sign whom?

Who is Phoenix attracting that's a) better than Booker and b) capable of leading them to playoff contention?

Jimmy Butler