Official 2018 NBA Preseason Thread - Jimmy Butler Does Things

Where will LeBron end up?


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Kobe is better than Wade, but I feel like it's pretty close. Or at least closer than most might think.
 
Why look at 4 years? Put up Kobe’s best 15 years against anyone else’s 15....... kobe was really good over a long period sans the rookie year and post-Achilles
 
So if Kobe was coming out of High school in the 2019 draft and Wade was coming out of Marquette the same year, would anyone take Wade ahead of Kobe in the 2019 draft?
 
Yep. When I saw those numbers I was surprised it was so close
If you swap their circumstances, who do you think wins more? I think Wade definitely wins the 5 rings Kobe did, but I also feel like Kobe wouldn't have been sandbagging for those last couple years with Bron like Wade was.
 
If you swap their circumstances, who do you think wins more? I think Wade definitely wins the 5 rings Kobe did, but I also feel like Kobe wouldn't have been sandbagging for those last couple years with Bron like Wade was.

I definitely think he wins those first 3 nothing against Kobe but Shaq was crazy dominate in that stretch.

I feel like if you replaced Kobe with Wade they beat the Pistons. Wade had their number
 
Against ANYONE else?

I mean the usual suspects he’s compared to. I feel Kobe’s strength legacy wise is how good he was over a long stretch. While VC, TMac and AI were compared to him they all faded away then came Lebron and Wade then Harden. Kobe was in the discussion the whole time and was compared to two generations of elite perimeter players
 
Kobe is better than Wade, but I feel like it's pretty close. Or at least closer than most might think.
Agreed

I only never mention wade because dude was made annoying getting free throws handed to him left and right

I mean he was nick named d-whistle for a reason
 
I definitely think he wins those first 3 nothing against Kobe but Shaq was crazy dominate in that stretch.

I feel like if you replaced Kobe with Wade they beat the Pistons. Wade had their number

You gotta factor that Kobe was like 21 for those first 3, can't just say that anybody could do that at that age. Shaq was dominant but Kobe was damn good and carried the team at times
 
I definitely think he wins those first 3 nothing against Kobe but Shaq was crazy dominate in that stretch.

I feel like if you replaced Kobe with Wade they beat the Pistons. Wade had their number
Swap wade or kobe. Kobe was in his prime? Wade was a rookie? :lol

They weren’t beating pistons, stop it
 
You gotta factor that Kobe was like 21 for those first 3, can't just say that anybody could do that at that age. Shaq was dominant but Kobe was damn good and carried the team at times

I was referring to swapping prime Wade in the scenario
 
Jigga What?
Like KD and LeBron are basically bigger stronger faster versions of Kobe. If Kobe had their dimensions, he'd be better than them

Agreed

I only never mention wade because dude was made annoying getting free throws handed to him left and right

I mean he was nick named d-whistle for a reason

I probably need to watch it again but I rewatched those finals some years ago and Dallas had no one that could even pretend to stay in front of Wade and Wade was quick as **** back then. They started off hacking him and then the refs just gave him anything. It was more Wade's dominance than bad reffing from what I remember
 
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