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Official 2015 NFL Draft Thread
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byron jones :x too bad he's not running the 40
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Love that they are doing the gauntlet for DB's now lol
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Does anyone have the schedule of when each player goes at the combine? Do the safeties go after corners or is it all mixed up
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it's all mixed up I believe. grouped as "defensive backs"
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i think it's just DBs
results (click the top for different positions):
http://walterfootball.com/combine2015DB.php
results (click the top for different positions):
http://walterfootball.com/combine2015DB.php
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They're all grouped together and it is in alphabetical order
The live stream has the list of DB's on the side
The live stream has the list of DB's on the side
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trae waynes 
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[COLOR=#red]Trae Waynes with an official 4.31[/COLOR]
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Man what
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whats the chances of Trae falling to 25th?
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Trae Waynes = Fabian Washington v2.0
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4.31 :x :x :x :x
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You didn't watch Michigan state last couple years.
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Word I just watch the combine it's the best
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NFL Combine fluff pieces begin:
Jameis Winston cements No. 1 status with combine coronation
Jameis and Mooch on the board
http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0a...n-cements-no-1-status-with-combine-coronation
Jameis Winston cements No. 1 status with combine coronation
Jameis and Mooch on the board
First, even in the wake of a tumultuous season in which scandals involving ex-Ravens running back Ray Rice (domestic violence) and Vikings star runner Adrian Peterson (child endangerment) amplified scrutiny about dreaded character concerns to unprecedented levels, talent remains an eminently enticing aphrodisiac to NFL evaluators.
Secondly, with all things being equal, NFL decision-makers will choose a flawed individual who convinces them he is being honest and authentic over anyone they suspect is conning them and feeding them pre-packaged baloney, every single time.
And thirdly -- refreshingly -- those troubling stereotypes about African-American quarterbacks to which so many of us were subjected for so many years are being resoundingly obliterated, in a manner that someone like Johnny "Wreck This League" Manziel could appreciate.
There might still be Neanderthals among us who stigmatize African-American quarterbacks as athletic specimens who lack intelligence, leadership and the skills necessary to thrive in a traditional, "pro-style" offense, but they would be laughed out of Indy's finest establishments by people who actually evaluate these players for a living.
Winston, after all, is Exhibit A: lauded for his football smarts and other intangibles, and exposed during his 40-yard dashes (the fastest of which was 4.97 seconds) as a quarterback whose foot speed is far more closely aligned with the Tom Brady/Peyton Manning skill set than it is to that of, say, Robert Griffin III or Michael Vick.
Whereas Mariota confirmed his reputation as an outstanding athlete by registering a 4.52-second 40 time, Winston looked plodding by comparison -- and damaged his draft stock by a John Blutarsky-esque quotient of 0.0. He will be a classic pocket passer in the NFL, and he's considered far more pro-ready than Mariota, who operated almost exclusively out of the shotgun in a spread offense at Oregon.
If you must compare Winston to an African-American quarterback, try this one on for size: "He reminds me of Steve McNair," said one AFC team executive. "He wasn't an articulate guy when he came out of Alcorn State, but he had an extremely high football IQ. He was a better athlete, but he didn't have the outward confidence that Winston has. And this guy is way more pro-ready than Steve was."
The reference to Winston's "outward confidence" is interesting, given the juxtaposition between him and last year's most polarizing prospect at the position, former Texas A&M star (and Heisman winner) Manziel. Whereas "Johnny Football" did his best to downplay his cocksure persona, Winston embraced the swagger -- and his bold statements (both in interviews with teams and in his media session) came off as breezy and almost effortless.
When he said he wished not to be compared to Mariota, but to Brady and Manning, because he planned to win the Super Bowl next year, Winston somehow managed to charm the men who count most: prospective employers.
"Look," said one NFC coach, "I like that he said that. He's not backing away from the challenge, and he seems legit. He does not seem like another (Manziel) to me."
Manziel, drafted in the first round by the Cleveland Browns last May, just concluded a disastrous rookie season and is currently receiving treatment in a rehab facility. In retrospect, he is viewed by many NFL talent evaluators as someone who let down the people who most wanted to believe in him and who wasn't necessarily genuine during the pre-draft process.
It should also be noted that Manziel is extremely athletic -- and that he happens to be white. Again, the stereotypes are getting pummeled into submission, and good riddance.
Unlike Manziel, Winston -- as did Mariota -- elected to throw (and go through other quarterback drills) in Indy, which teams perceived as another sign of his confidence and willingness to embrace competition. There is much to love about Winston.
Yet we should also acknowledge the elephant in the room: Winston has a string of embarrassing off-the-field incidents that damaged his reputation in the first place.
He was accused of, but not charged with, sexual assault -- obviously, the Bucs (or any other team that might draft him) will have to be convinced that Winston did not engage in such a serious and despicable act.
Winston also got popped for stealing crab legs from a supermarket and suspended for yelling a profanity while standing atop a cafeteria table. In the end, I'm convinced, neither of these incidents will affect his draft stock. And there might be other things that the public doesn't know about, but which NFL teams will discover.
Certainly, it is fair for teams to question Winston's maturity, but I believe those concerns will be more than offset by his ability to assimilate high-level football concepts.
"There's a difference between intelligence and making good decisions," one front-office executive for an NFC team told me Sunday. "Winston has made some bad decisions. But you can become more mature. Intelligence is more of an absolute."
For that reason, I'm all but absolutely convinced that Winston will be the Bucs' pick come April. And I'm glad that NFL people, at least, are smart enough to disregard the stupid stereotypes of a blessedly bygone era.
Secondly, with all things being equal, NFL decision-makers will choose a flawed individual who convinces them he is being honest and authentic over anyone they suspect is conning them and feeding them pre-packaged baloney, every single time.
And thirdly -- refreshingly -- those troubling stereotypes about African-American quarterbacks to which so many of us were subjected for so many years are being resoundingly obliterated, in a manner that someone like Johnny "Wreck This League" Manziel could appreciate.
There might still be Neanderthals among us who stigmatize African-American quarterbacks as athletic specimens who lack intelligence, leadership and the skills necessary to thrive in a traditional, "pro-style" offense, but they would be laughed out of Indy's finest establishments by people who actually evaluate these players for a living.
Winston, after all, is Exhibit A: lauded for his football smarts and other intangibles, and exposed during his 40-yard dashes (the fastest of which was 4.97 seconds) as a quarterback whose foot speed is far more closely aligned with the Tom Brady/Peyton Manning skill set than it is to that of, say, Robert Griffin III or Michael Vick.
Whereas Mariota confirmed his reputation as an outstanding athlete by registering a 4.52-second 40 time, Winston looked plodding by comparison -- and damaged his draft stock by a John Blutarsky-esque quotient of 0.0. He will be a classic pocket passer in the NFL, and he's considered far more pro-ready than Mariota, who operated almost exclusively out of the shotgun in a spread offense at Oregon.
If you must compare Winston to an African-American quarterback, try this one on for size: "He reminds me of Steve McNair," said one AFC team executive. "He wasn't an articulate guy when he came out of Alcorn State, but he had an extremely high football IQ. He was a better athlete, but he didn't have the outward confidence that Winston has. And this guy is way more pro-ready than Steve was."
The reference to Winston's "outward confidence" is interesting, given the juxtaposition between him and last year's most polarizing prospect at the position, former Texas A&M star (and Heisman winner) Manziel. Whereas "Johnny Football" did his best to downplay his cocksure persona, Winston embraced the swagger -- and his bold statements (both in interviews with teams and in his media session) came off as breezy and almost effortless.
When he said he wished not to be compared to Mariota, but to Brady and Manning, because he planned to win the Super Bowl next year, Winston somehow managed to charm the men who count most: prospective employers.
"Look," said one NFC coach, "I like that he said that. He's not backing away from the challenge, and he seems legit. He does not seem like another (Manziel) to me."
Manziel, drafted in the first round by the Cleveland Browns last May, just concluded a disastrous rookie season and is currently receiving treatment in a rehab facility. In retrospect, he is viewed by many NFL talent evaluators as someone who let down the people who most wanted to believe in him and who wasn't necessarily genuine during the pre-draft process.
It should also be noted that Manziel is extremely athletic -- and that he happens to be white. Again, the stereotypes are getting pummeled into submission, and good riddance.
Unlike Manziel, Winston -- as did Mariota -- elected to throw (and go through other quarterback drills) in Indy, which teams perceived as another sign of his confidence and willingness to embrace competition. There is much to love about Winston.
Yet we should also acknowledge the elephant in the room: Winston has a string of embarrassing off-the-field incidents that damaged his reputation in the first place.
He was accused of, but not charged with, sexual assault -- obviously, the Bucs (or any other team that might draft him) will have to be convinced that Winston did not engage in such a serious and despicable act.
Winston also got popped for stealing crab legs from a supermarket and suspended for yelling a profanity while standing atop a cafeteria table. In the end, I'm convinced, neither of these incidents will affect his draft stock. And there might be other things that the public doesn't know about, but which NFL teams will discover.
Certainly, it is fair for teams to question Winston's maturity, but I believe those concerns will be more than offset by his ability to assimilate high-level football concepts.
"There's a difference between intelligence and making good decisions," one front-office executive for an NFC team told me Sunday. "Winston has made some bad decisions. But you can become more mature. Intelligence is more of an absolute."
For that reason, I'm all but absolutely convinced that Winston will be the Bucs' pick come April. And I'm glad that NFL people, at least, are smart enough to disregard the stupid stereotypes of a blessedly bygone era.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0a...n-cements-no-1-status-with-combine-coronation
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I feel you. But that was slanderous, wayans a solid prospect.
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He's definitely solid but I feel he'll be overdrafted due to the combine.
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Jameis in the south.Jameis and Evans is gonna be a problem in future.
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Jameis definitely going #1 after this weekend
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What is "overdrafted"... what team/draft spot? I think 14 is perfect and he's been a top 10 player for me from the beginning of the year.
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I've seen him as a mid-teens/twenties guy. 14 is a fine look. After today some random team could fall in love with him and draft him top ten. It happens every year.
Kid is good but I don't think he's the best CB or a top ten talent.
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Who's the best CB in the draft? Peters?
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Yessir.
