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Did Dipset just say this?
Bro NOBODY knows that his court vision is good. He has great tunnel vision though
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Bro NOBODY knows that his court vision is good. He has great tunnel vision though
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Dipset gon dipset
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FYI, NBATV is airing the '13-'14 Schedule Release special on Tuesday @ 6pm.
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So that's why he hasn't been here
I assumed no Lebron meant no him, or he's posting under a different name. I wish I would have known that before, so I could've immediately dropped this again : Anyway...it's been a good one ya'll
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This is what I was trying to say:
John Wall (88M's) is held in a much higher regard than Brandon Jennings (24M's) and Wall hasn't done much of anything in the L thus far to say he's just that much better than a guy like, say Jennings. All of these traits that Wall has over Jennings is great, but it has amounted to nothing thus far. Can't pay 88M's to someone who can't get me 30 wins.
So with that being said, to me not only is he not a max deal kind of player, he also isn't 60+M's better than Jennings, right now at least. All that he's proven in the L thus far is that he's a supreme talent with "potential." And yes Wall didn't play half of the year last year, but that's another reason why he isn't a max player at this point.
John Wall (88M's) is held in a much higher regard than Brandon Jennings (24M's) and Wall hasn't done much of anything in the L thus far to say he's just that much better than a guy like, say Jennings. All of these traits that Wall has over Jennings is great, but it has amounted to nothing thus far. Can't pay 88M's to someone who can't get me 30 wins.
So with that being said, to me not only is he not a max deal kind of player, he also isn't 60+M's better than Jennings, right now at least. All that he's proven in the L thus far is that he's a supreme talent with "potential." And yes Wall didn't play half of the year last year, but that's another reason why he isn't a max player at this point.
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What did you think about James Harden getting a max contract from Houston after being a 6th man in OKC?
Too slow on that edit, big dawg.
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shoeking2101
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Doesn't matter big dawg, what I edited was true anyway.
And I thought the Harden thing was a big gamble, although he had just come off of a strong playoff and was the 6th man of the year award. Even in limited minutes, he proved to be a fantastic scorer/creator with the ability to get to the line. All traits of being a superstar. So although it still a gamble to max him out, the gamble wasn't as large as Washington Maxing Wall out.
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Wall is close to a max player though. It is what it is. Jennings got that Nate Robinson treatment for a reason. There is a huge difference between the two players
shoeking2101
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But that huge difference is due to what though? Because it can't be off of what Wall has done thus far right? Has to be off of what they believe Wall will do in the future right? Jennings hasn't done much except chuck since that 55 point game granted, but what has Wall done that is so substantial that says "Near max player."
If one believes that Wall will do in the future is 60+M's better than Jennings, then that's fine, he very well may. I just tend to disagree with that notion. I haven't seen enough of Wall honestly to give him the benefit of the doubt that he'll become this max guy. No matter the team, a Max player has to be able to get at least 30 wins in a season before he gets that contract, right? We'll see what this season has in store for the two.
By the way, i'm actually expecting Wall to prove his worth this upcoming season if the last half of the season was any indication. They should be in the running for a playoff spot. All I was saying was up until this point, he hasn't done much to separate him from a Brandon Jennings from a wins perspective and a statistical perspective, thus isn't a max guy. He may become one, but he isn't right now.
shoeking2101
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On a completely unrelated note, What Myles did to Brian Williams, his Gf, and the captain on that boat was 
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I don't expect Wall to become a historical player by any means but he is a max player. Like I said, it is what it is. Many guys get the max who don't deserve it. Jennings on the other hand, plays a style of basketball just isn't going to win you games. He doesn't make his teammates better and he is not a competent quarterback. Wall on the other hand has the ability to make his team better. I don't put too much stock into meaningless games to end the regular season but he did make his team better when he returned from injury.
Players don't get paid off what they have necessarily proved, so I don't see how you keep going back to "what has Wall done so far". That doesn't even matter and I'm sure you know that.
Comparing their skill sets, there is a clear difference. I don't think that needs to be explained again, because it's already been done many times in the past few pages.
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I'd like to see Wall reach Pooh and Russy status, but he's more likely to end his career in the same tier as Steph and Kyrie.
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Steph and Kyrie haven't even scratched their ceilings yet (especially Kyrie).
Put me in the camp that believes CP3 will eventually pass the torch to Kyrie over all these guys.
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you say this as if steph and kyries careers are over
shoeking2101
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Fair enough, repped.
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Ya'll ****** on here talking the ends of dudes careers that are like 22-25 years old.
Unreal.
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So the Wizards winning as little as they have rests on the fault of Wall?
I am not understanding why you keep resorting to win totals.
And I hear what you are saying with your argument. BUT, BUT, BUT, Wall's situation here in DC has him in a position where the Wiz must keep him to build around. If they don't pay him then what? Go back to a sun 15 winning season?
So they want to move forward with him, and to do that, they have to give him that max deal.
But you are right. He hasn't previously shown that he is worth that price tag. I agree there
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You guys misunderstood.
I'm merely projecting their career paths. Anything can happen, obviously.
Wall has the explosiveness and athleticism Russy and Pooh share.
Steph and Kyrie are far better jump shooters than Wall. We'll see.
Steph gets hurt a lot. Kyrie isn't as good defensively as Wall.
I'm merely projecting their career paths. Anything can happen, obviously.
Wall has the explosiveness and athleticism Russy and Pooh share.
Steph and Kyrie are far better jump shooters than Wall. We'll see.
Steph gets hurt a lot. Kyrie isn't as good defensively as Wall.
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Steph and Kyrie thoughhhh. Kyrie gotta stay outta injuries man lol
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CP3 doesn't even have the torch, Derrick Rose does.
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