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Just wow at all these essay-type analysis about mayweather and pacquiao. We still won't know who is better than the other until they fight.
 
Drones said:
If you watch the Bradley/Pac fight with the sound off, without Jim lampleys biased Pac commentary in your ear, It becomes a lot closer than you think.
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THIS!

i remember watching a video of that fight on youtube showing where Jim would credit pac for landing punches flush and effectively, but then theyd replay the punches in slow mo and they barely grazed bradley.

and jim would be enthusiastic about them, like  "pac lands a HARD FLUSH straight left !!!!!!!!...." then the slow mo replay would show the punches barely touching bradley. great video
 
You really can't blame Jim though. Pacquiao is so quick its hard to tell in real time what lands flush and what doesn't. Like Max always says, who would you rather be at the end of the round. And to quote Bradley himself "I'll have to go back and watch the tape.....to see if I won." Even Bradley knew he didn't win that fight. Some people put way too much stock into compubox. I'm not discrediting Floyd either, just too many people discredit Manny.
 
I watched Pac vs Bradley fight 3 times....manny won....point blank i had him by 2 rounds. He landed the more effective shots and was the aggressor a lot of the fight. Even though he was inactive some rounds in the middle his shots that he landed at the end were more meaningful then anything Bradley ever landed. The fight wasn't that entertaining though at the end of the day for me...it is what it is.

People do realize that Rios was a solid 160lbs and manny weighed in at 145 and ate breakfast that morning according to sources....dude fought a solid middle weight in rios basically. And even saying that Rios has a great chin. I did not expect manny to knock him out going in. I thought maybe a stoppage due to an injury. If Rios got cut early...it wouldn't have went the distance.

I think floyds "suspect" chin (i only say that because of mosely). And his body breaking down. He broke his hand during the Guerrero fight (i think or injured it) and was complaining about his elbow after the canelo fight (he said they bumped elbows and hurt it thats why he couldn't get the KO...yeah i know or his pillow punches didn't have the power). But Manny has speed....can't take that away from him. If he can catch floyd it would be really interesting. Granted Floyd is the best defensive fighter to ever live and i have been saying "if they can hit him" for his last 4 fights and nothing has worked. But Manny is a different breed i think.

Still got floyd by UD
 
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You really can't blame Jim though. Pacquiao is so quick its hard to tell in real time what lands flush and what doesn't. Like Max always says, who would you rather be at the end of the round. And to quote Bradley himself "I'll have to go back and watch the tape.....to see if I won." Even Bradley knew he didn't win that fight. Some people put way too much stock into compubox. I'm not discrediting Floyd either, just too many people discredit Manny.
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Pacquiao's compubox stats did look better than Bradley's anyway. I saw Pacquiao winning 8 rounds to 4, he didn't look impressive but he did more than enough to win.
 
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You fanboys should post **** that's actually happening, instead of stupid *** hypothetical scenarios & dumping on Floyd like it's 2009 again.

MANILA, Philippines -- Despite returning like a hero from beating Brandon Rios over the weekend, Manny Pacquiao said Tuesday he has no money to keep his promise to help typhoon victims because Philippine revenue authorities have frozen his bank accounts.

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Manny Pacquiao returned to the ring after a long absence to defeat Brandon Rios by unanimous decision.
The Bureau of Internal Revenue says Pacquiao hasn't proved he paid taxes in 2008-2009. It has assessed that Pacquiao, once one of the world's highest paid athletes, owed 2.2 billion pesos ($50 million) in back taxes as of July.

Pacquiao, the wealthiest member of the Philippine Congress, said Tuesday he borrowed over 1 million pesos ($22,700) to purchase relief supplies before his fight Sunday with Rios in Macau and will borrow more to keep his word to typhoon victims. Pacquiao said he plans to provide aid to more than 10,000 families.

Fierce winds and tsunami-like storm surges from Typhoon Haiyan, one of the strongest typhoons on record, demolished entire communities and killed over 5,200 people when it ploughed through the central Philippines. More than 1,600 are missing.

Pacquiao said he paid taxes in the United States following his victories against Ricky Hatton and Oscar de la Hoya and that a treaty prevents double taxation. A criminal case was dropped by prosecutors for alleged unpaid taxes in 2010, but the revenue authorities' tax claims for the 2008-2009 is still pending.

"I appeal to them to remove the garnishment so that I can move and pay for my staff's salaries," Pacquiao told reporters in his southern hometown of General Santos city. "I am not a criminal or a thief."

He said his wife's accounts have also been frozen.

Pacquiao said if he had not paid the right taxes in the United States, he would have been arrested during one of his visits there.

"The money that was garnished by (the Bureau of Internal Revenue) is not stolen," he said. "This came from all of the punches, beatings, blood and sweat that I endured in the ring."

He said the revenue agency's claims that he earned more than what he actually did were baseless.

Revenue Commission Kim Henares, however, said that the only proof Pacquiao has given of his tax payments was a letter from promoter Top Rank and HBO of the taxes he has paid to the United States, but nothing from the U.S. Internal Revenue Service.

"That is self-serving and a mere scrap of paper," she said. "What he can do is go to the IRS, ask IRS to certify this copy (of his tax payments) as a true copy. We have been waiting for that for two years."

She said of 22 banks her agency has ordered to report on Pacquiao's accounts, only two said they held deposits for Pacquiao and that the total was only 1.1 million pesos ($25,200), which is now covered by the garnish.

"It is unbelievable to me that he has only 1.1 million pesos," Henares said.
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At the end of the day none of us really know why the fight didnt happen. It's almost pointless to speculate.
 
Exactly, and to come out of the woodwork after two years of silence to blame either fighter or to disparage either fighter makes you look like a ******g idiot.

They're both to blame, they both have outstanding resumes and they're both unquestionable HOF'ers. You can just leave it at that for now.
 
Wow 1 million pesos ? That's it?
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No Filipino in their right mind would trust their government or it's agencies. They're well known to pull some shady **** like the pork barrel scandal just before typhoon haiyan. It would come as no surprise to anyone if they were pulling this just to seize Pacquiao's assets at a time of (as President Aquino put it) "national calamity."
 
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No Filipino in their right mind would trust their government or it's agencies. They're well known to pull some shady **** like the pork barrel scandal just before typhoon haiyan. It would come as no surprise to anyone if they were pulling this just to seize Pacquiao's assets at a time of (as President Aquino put it) "national calamity."
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Believe it or not, most of the donations are not even going to those who need it.. Philippine government is that corrupt.. They dont give a f*** about they people, all they care about is money
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I think that is really messed up how he is a govt official in that country and they are freeezing his assets . That would never fly out here in the US.


For all the joy he brings the people in that country, this is how they treat him smh
 
RetiredKicks said:
^very true. The Ortiz ko was a joke as was the fight. Mayweather isn't knocking anyone out, especially with the problems he has in his hands. People want to count Manny out of the mega fight after 2 losses but what exactly did Ortiz, Guerrero, and Canelo do to get the fight? Two of them came off wins from Berto and one beat Trout who is on a Malinaggi Judah undercard. Marquez moved up in weight only to have Floyd NOT make the weight after a year layoff and people said he was back. Mosley was, well, def not in his prime although he almost rocked Floyd to the mat. The only meaningful, relevant fight Floyd has had in years was Cotto and Miguel gave him a tough fight. Before that I'd say Hatton was his last meaningful fight. Pacquiao and Mayweather can give each other their toughest test I believe. I think it can get done before Floyd's contract is up.
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No mention of Marquez?

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Tuned into the fights on FS1, forgot Tarver was getting back in the ring. Damn

The two guys fighting right now, Yusaf Mack and Thomas Williams, are just throwing bombs
 
Hope Shane Mosley stops this dude tomorrow he probably wont get a decision win even if he deserves it.
 
Yo! I randomly stumbled upon something showing that ring girls (.)(.) 8o you know the one you guys were drooling over a few pages back.
 
I love my NT brethren so I'm going a few pages back to log everyone who showed interest since they were probably only here for the Pacquiao fight. :lol
 
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