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What are the Celtics looking for in exchange for Rondo?
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Nowitness41Dirk wrote:
What are the Celtics looking for in exchange for Rondo?
$$$ I bet.
Rondo wants big deal, and KG on the books for a ton of money the next couple years. They are in a bad spot with the age and money on this current roster. They have to be looking for deals that will go away after a year or two, or at worst low dollar serviceable players.
[h1]Kings appear to favor Evans over Rubio[/h1] [h2][/h2]
By Sam Amick
[email protected]
Published: Wednesday, Jun. 24, 2009 - 12:00 am | Page 6C
Last Modified: Wednesday, Jun. 24, 2009 - 8:55 am
The shovel came flying Paul Westphal's way from the start, with his official hiring as Kings coach June 12 followed by the request to help with the rebuilding project and the reality that the NBA draft was just 13 days away.
And Westphal, who longed to be an NBA coach again after nine years, has enjoyed every minute.
"It hasn't been too hard to fill my days since this hurricane hit," Westphal said by phone with a laugh. "It's a 24-hour-a-day job, but it's been great. I'm really enjoying it. The organization was advertised as being first class, from the Maloofs on down, and I've been really happy with what I've been finding out about the people I'm working with."
As for the next colleague he'll be welcoming? The research continues.
With Thursday's draft drawing near and the Kings' workout schedule having been completed with Ricky Rubio's visit Monday, the deliberating about the team's No. 4 pick continued internally. And while their list of top candidates is believed to include Rubio, Memphis' Tyreke Evans, Syracuse's Jonny Flynn and Davidson's Stephen Curry, it appears Evans is heading the group entering the final days.
Although the 6-foot-7 guard is not the true point guard the Kings had hoped for, his physicality, ability to get to the rim and dynamic scoring ways have enticed the team. He raised his stock in recent workouts, dominating in Minnesota before doing the same in Sacramento. Rubio, meanwhile, may be passed over even if he is available when the Kings' first pick arrives.
"I think we'll get a player that can help us," said Westphal, who has been taking part in the team's workouts. "Beyond that, these guys are so young that you have to hedge everything with, 'If he develops … .' After you do all the research...you can't look into somebody's heart and see how they're going to react when they get some money in their pocket and how they're going to react to being in the spotlight."
But the Kings, of course, won't fully know their options until the Clippers, Memphis and Oklahoma City select before them. And the Grizzlies, specifically, have some deliberating of their own to do before they're on the clock.
After Washington and Minnesota reportedly agreed in principle on a deal netting the Timberwolves the No. 5 pick in addition to their No. 6, league sources said the T-wolves - who also have the No. 18 and No. 28 picks - might look to put together a package for Memphis that could bring them the No. 2 and, ultimately, Rubio. The Grizzlies might not comply and could cloud the picture by selecting Evans, the local star. New York also remains high on Rubio and has had extensive discussions about moving up to get him.
Sacramento, meanwhile, has been Rubio's preference if he didn't join the Clippers. They are set on taking forward Blake Griffin. Memphis boasts talented young guards Mike Conley and O.J. Mayo, and has a history of lukewarm relationships with some of its Spanish players. Oklahoma City's Russell Westbrook manned the point well last season.
The Kings were seen as ideal for Rubio in several ways - from the struggles of starter Beno Udrih last season to the California location. Yet the feeling may not be mutual, with Westphal saying that Monday's workout would not sway the decision.
"We wanted to get a feel for just interacting with him, watching him up close," Westphal said. "(But) is there anything that's going to tip the scale as to whether we draft Ricky Rubio or not from that workout? Absolutely not.
"It was nice for us to be able to spend some time with him, and it was impossible to do anything that would either help or hurt himself, really, in one hour of shooting around in the gym."
@ the Kings if they take Tyreke over Rubio.
david lee can't be traded until july, and i believe nate and dlee are signing 1 year deals to the knicks.Originally Posted by 651akathePaul
Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I
Knicks buy #28 from Minnesota.
Minnesota trades Love for the #2 and trades the Knicks #6 and #18 or 28 + David Lee.
I'll take that. : lol
Originally Posted by bhzmafia14
[h1]Kings appear to favor Evans over Rubio[/h1]
By Sam Amick
[email protected]
Published: Wednesday, Jun. 24, 2009 - 12:00 am | Page 6C
Last Modified: Wednesday, Jun. 24, 2009 - 8:55 am
The shovel came flying Paul Westphal's way from the start, with his official hiring as Kings coach June 12 followed by the request to help with the rebuilding project and the reality that the NBA draft was just 13 days away.
And Westphal, who longed to be an NBA coach again after nine years, has enjoyed every minute.
"It hasn't been too hard to fill my days since this hurricane hit," Westphal said by phone with a laugh. "It's a 24-hour-a-day job, but it's been great. I'm really enjoying it. The organization was advertised as being first class, from the Maloofs on down, and I've been really happy with what I've been finding out about the people I'm working with."
As for the next colleague he'll be welcoming? The research continues.
With Thursday's draft drawing near and the Kings' workout schedule having been completed with Ricky Rubio's visit Monday, the deliberating about the team's No. 4 pick continued internally. And while their list of top candidates is believed to include Rubio, Memphis' Tyreke Evans, Syracuse's Jonny Flynn and Davidson's Stephen Curry, it appears Evans is heading the group entering the final days.
Although the 6-foot-7 guard is not the true point guard the Kings had hoped for, his physicality, ability to get to the rim and dynamic scoring ways have enticed the team. He raised his stock in recent workouts, dominating in Minnesota before doing the same in Sacramento. Rubio, meanwhile, may be passed over even if he is available when the Kings' first pick arrives.
"I think we'll get a player that can help us," said Westphal, who has been taking part in the team's workouts. "Beyond that, these guys are so young that you have to hedge everything with, 'If he develops … .' After you do all the research...you can't look into somebody's heart and see how they're going to react when they get some money in their pocket and how they're going to react to being in the spotlight."
But the Kings, of course, won't fully know their options until the Clippers, Memphis and Oklahoma City select before them. And the Grizzlies, specifically, have some deliberating of their own to do before they're on the clock.
After Washington and Minnesota reportedly agreed in principle on a deal netting the Timberwolves the No. 5 pick in addition to their No. 6, league sources said the T-wolves - who also have the No. 18 and No. 28 picks - might look to put together a package for Memphis that could bring them the No. 2 and, ultimately, Rubio. The Grizzlies might not comply and could cloud the picture by selecting Evans, the local star. New York also remains high on Rubio and has had extensive discussions about moving up to get him.
Sacramento, meanwhile, has been Rubio's preference if he didn't join the Clippers. They are set on taking forward Blake Griffin. Memphis boasts talented young guards Mike Conley and O.J. Mayo, and has a history of lukewarm relationships with some of its Spanish players. Oklahoma City's Russell Westbrook manned the point well last season.
The Kings were seen as ideal for Rubio in several ways - from the struggles of starter Beno Udrih last season to the California location. Yet the feeling may not be mutual, with Westphal saying that Monday's workout would not sway the decision.
"We wanted to get a feel for just interacting with him, watching him up close," Westphal said. "(But) is there anything that's going to tip the scale as to whether we draft Ricky Rubio or not from that workout? Absolutely not.
"It was nice for us to be able to spend some time with him, and it was impossible to do anything that would either help or hurt himself, really, in one hour of shooting around in the gym."
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Does anybody, ANYBODY, really believe that Tyreke Evans can play point guard in the pros?
Originally Posted by cleansneaksonly21
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Does anybody, ANYBODY, really believe that Tyreke Evans can play point guard in the pros?
i think he can... the traditional PG days of the NBA are over
Originally Posted by Im Not You
I don't care what ya'll say about Jennings...if he lands in Atlanta...my goodness.
It depends on what system he's in. I don't think he can play PG in a halfcourt offense. He dominants the ball and distributes well enoughto play PG half of the time. I just don't see him being a PURE point though. He did a good job in Memphis running the point because of the type of offensethey ran.Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by cleansneaksonly21
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Does anybody, ANYBODY, really believe that Tyreke Evans can play point guard in the pros?
i think he can... the traditional PG days of the NBA are over
Explain.
(He cant play the 1 in the NBA btw)
hold up rubio is now 6'5!?!? dude might end up bein like 6'8 haha last summer he was 6'3
I wouldif he could even become 6'6 or 6'7 whichis very possible. That's what makes him so scary.
Does anybody, ANYBODY, really believe that Tyreke Evans can play point guard in the pros?Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Originally Posted by bhzmafia14
[h1]Kings appear to favor Evans over Rubio[/h1]
By Sam Amick
[email protected]
Published: Wednesday, Jun. 24, 2009 - 12:00 am | Page 6C
Last Modified: Wednesday, Jun. 24, 2009 - 8:55 am
The shovel came flying Paul Westphal's way from the start, with his official hiring as Kings coach June 12 followed by the request to help with the rebuilding project and the reality that the NBA draft was just 13 days away.
And Westphal, who longed to be an NBA coach again after nine years, has enjoyed every minute.
"It hasn't been too hard to fill my days since this hurricane hit," Westphal said by phone with a laugh. "It's a 24-hour-a-day job, but it's been great. I'm really enjoying it. The organization was advertised as being first class, from the Maloofs on down, and I've been really happy with what I've been finding out about the people I'm working with."
As for the next colleague he'll be welcoming? The research continues.
With Thursday's draft drawing near and the Kings' workout schedule having been completed with Ricky Rubio's visit Monday, the deliberating about the team's No. 4 pick continued internally. And while their list of top candidates is believed to include Rubio, Memphis' Tyreke Evans, Syracuse's Jonny Flynn and Davidson's Stephen Curry, it appears Evans is heading the group entering the final days.
Although the 6-foot-7 guard is not the true point guard the Kings had hoped for, his physicality, ability to get to the rim and dynamic scoring ways have enticed the team. He raised his stock in recent workouts, dominating in Minnesota before doing the same in Sacramento. Rubio, meanwhile, may be passed over even if he is available when the Kings' first pick arrives.
"I think we'll get a player that can help us," said Westphal, who has been taking part in the team's workouts. "Beyond that, these guys are so young that you have to hedge everything with, 'If he develops … .' After you do all the research...you can't look into somebody's heart and see how they're going to react when they get some money in their pocket and how they're going to react to being in the spotlight."
But the Kings, of course, won't fully know their options until the Clippers, Memphis and Oklahoma City select before them. And the Grizzlies, specifically, have some deliberating of their own to do before they're on the clock.
After Washington and Minnesota reportedly agreed in principle on a deal netting the Timberwolves the No. 5 pick in addition to their No. 6, league sources said the T-wolves - who also have the No. 18 and No. 28 picks - might look to put together a package for Memphis that could bring them the No. 2 and, ultimately, Rubio. The Grizzlies might not comply and could cloud the picture by selecting Evans, the local star. New York also remains high on Rubio and has had extensive discussions about moving up to get him.
Sacramento, meanwhile, has been Rubio's preference if he didn't join the Clippers. They are set on taking forward Blake Griffin. Memphis boasts talented young guards Mike Conley and O.J. Mayo, and has a history of lukewarm relationships with some of its Spanish players. Oklahoma City's Russell Westbrook manned the point well last season.
The Kings were seen as ideal for Rubio in several ways - from the struggles of starter Beno Udrih last season to the California location. Yet the feeling may not be mutual, with Westphal saying that Monday's workout would not sway the decision.
"We wanted to get a feel for just interacting with him, watching him up close," Westphal said. "(But) is there anything that's going to tip the scale as to whether we draft Ricky Rubio or not from that workout? Absolutely not.
"It was nice for us to be able to spend some time with him, and it was impossible to do anything that would either help or hurt himself, really, in one hour of shooting around in the gym."@ the Kings if they take Tyreke over Rubio.
Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by cleansneaksonly21
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Does anybody, ANYBODY, really believe that Tyreke Evans can play point guard in the pros?
i think he can... the traditional PG days of the NBA are over
Explain. (He cant play the 1 in the NBA btw)
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
A lot of people were questioning if Russell Westbrook could run the point in OKC....he had his ups/downs, but the kid's future is as bright (at the 1) as anybody in the league...as far as Evans, he dominated workouts against other PG's in this years draft class. He's got a tremendous upside. The fact that he's a potential nightmare matchup-wise is intriguing. He's got a great shooter at the 2 in Kevin Martin, so there won't be a huge burden on Evans to shoot the lights out from the PG spot. Dude will be able to physically overmatch most PG's currently starting in the NBA in due time. He's going to surprise a lot of people next year. Believe that.
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
A lot of people were questioning if Russell Westbrook could run the point in OKC....he had his ups/downs, but the kid's future is as bright (at the 1) as anybody in the league...as far as Evans, he dominated workouts against other PG's in this years draft class. He's got a tremendous upside. The fact that he's a potential nightmare matchup-wise is intriguing. He's got a great shooter at the 2 in Kevin Martin, so there won't be a huge burden on Evans to shoot the lights out from the PG spot. Dude will be able to physically overmatch most PG's currently starting in the NBA in due time. He's going to surprise a lot of people next year. Believe that.
Don't get me wrong I wanted the Raps to draft him at 9 but I just don't see him having the court vision creativity to be a full time point guard and I don't think he is a paticularly good decsion maker, at least with Russel Wesbrook he is going to get to the rim way more than Tyreke will, and is a better finisher. I don't see what advantage strength and size gives you at the PG position, I don't think NBA are going to turn there entire ofense inside out to exploit that.
@ that proposed Darko + 2 to NYK for Quentin and the 8 pick.
I thought the deal was Darko for Q-Rich? That's what they've been discussing not 2 + Darko for Q-Rich + 8. That doesn't even makesense.
They've also engaged in advanced discussions with the Knicks that should put former No. 2 overall pick Darko Milicic in New York by week's end ... unless Memphis winds up needing Milicic's expiring contract in another draft-related trade.
Sources say that the proposed swap would send Milicic to the Knicks for swingman Quentin Richardson and cash. Milicic is scheduled to earn $7.5 million next season in the final year of a three-year deal he received from the Griz in 2007; Richardson has a player option for next season at $8.7 million.
I think you got it mixed up when they said former no.2 pick
I'm all for the trade because it assures Memphis of depth at the SG/SF position and 3-point shooting. Darko isn't needed with Haddadi.
franchise3, I really want to make a bet that Memphis drafts Rubio, but this draft is so unpredictable I just might lose.