Offical NFL Combine thread Feb 18th- Feb 24th

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Post who you think is going to show out, who wont do much, and any info and discussion about this major draft event. Let me start by saying that Donald Brownimpressed me a lil bit at that State Farm skills challenge. Nate Davis is a speciman, if that fool had hit the target on the scramble drill he would have wonby almost a full second, then he should have won the accuracy contest too.
 
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is really all I can say..

I've enjoyed watching combine coverage on NFL Network the past couple years..I plan to tune in again as well
 
Deon Butler or DWill is gonna kill the 40. Hakeem Nicks will beast. Sanchez will probably look good in some of the drills but I still don't think he'sgonna be that good of a pro
 
Originally Posted by jville819

Deon Butler or DWill is gonna kill the 40. Hakeem Nicks will beast. Sanchez will probably look good in some of the drills but I still don't think he's gonna be that good of a pro


Butler is running a 4.5 DWill will make himself a first rounder
 
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I hate the combine/draft there have been way too much hype and way too many busts these past years for me to be excited about it anymore.
 
Originally Posted by 80JerryRice80

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I hate the combine/draft there have been way too much hype and way too many busts these past years for me to be excited about it anymore.


You were never a fan of it. Basketballsavant, they take those test at the combine, the scores arent usually shown unless a leak happens.
 
i love the combine+pre draft coverage on NFLN, some might say its over exposure and whatnot but it gives fans a lot of access to info that even GM's useand its more than 40 times that are relevant.

now - April 26 =
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Originally Posted by The Wizard

Originally Posted by dreClark

Brandon Lafell will test WELL.

he ain't in the draft boy. you're the one that told me that he withdrew
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I don't ever remember telling you that....
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And he's still in the draft as far as I know.
Hopefully my boy Louis does his thing
As in Louis Murphy?
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Originally Posted by gangsta207therevolution

Originally Posted by 80JerryRice80

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I hate the combine/draft there have been way too much hype and way too many busts these past years for me to be excited about it anymore.
You were never a fan of it.
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I wouldn't be so sure... He's been a fan of a lotof things at one point of another...
 
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Originally Posted by Handsome Hustler

Originally Posted by The Wizard

Originally Posted by dreClark

Brandon Lafell will test WELL.

he ain't in the draft boy. you're the one that told me that he withdrew
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And he's still in the draft as far as I know.
Hopefully my boy Louis does his thing
As in Louis Murphy?
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you right... it was Willinc

but yeah he withdrew.
 
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[h2][size=+2]NFL Draft Preview: Eyes on theCombine[/size][/h2][h5][size=-1]10:00 PM PST on Sunday, February 15, 2009[/size][/h5][size=-1]Evan Silva[/size]
On Wednesday, February 18, Indianapolis' Lucas Oil Stadium will host the NFL's annual Scouting Combine. Previously heldat the recently demolished RCA Dome, the event lasts six days and this year extended invites to 328 collegiates, including 45 underclassmen. Without pads, players will go throughdrills testing straight-line speed, raw strength, change of direction skills, intelligence, and physical fitness.

As is often the case this time of year, the debate at the top of the draft is whether a quarterback with "red flags" isworth the No. 1 choice. Matt Ryan's 19senior-year interceptions at Boston College naturally led to questions about his decision making. Arguments against Matthew Stafford include his 56.9 career completionrate and the staggeringhistory of underclassman quarterback busts.

Stafford is expected to bypass the Combine in favor of working out at the Bulldogs' March Pro Day. Ryan took the same approach last year and still went No. 3 to theFalcons. However, Ryan was projected to go first in numerous pre-draft projections and Brady Quinn tumbled to No. 22 overall after sittingout the Senior Bowl and most of the 2007 Combine. All three quarterbacks are represented by agent Tom Condon. Only time will tell if Stafford's absenceresults in a draft-day plunge.

[size=+1]Solidifying Second Place[/size]

After Stafford, three underclassmen fall in line as quarterback prospects two through four. USC's Mark Sanchez, Kansas State's Josh Freeman, and Ball State's Nate Davis all boast impressive arm strength andmobility. Perhaps the most striking physical QB specimen since JaMarcus Russell, the 6'6/250-pound Freeman could make a run at Sanchez to be the second QB taken.

Anyone who's seen Freeman play knows he has a cannon, and Davis won the distance throw in January's ESPN college all-starevent. Sanchez might be the finest on-the-run passing prospect since Carson Palmer. Accuracy is the most vitalcharacteristic for a successful quarterback, but arm strength improves draft stock. Without bulky shoulder pads or knee braces, the Combine provides a levelplaying field to gauge pure throwing power. Some separation should be created between the next three quarterbacks this week.

[size=+1]How Big Is Harvin, Really?[/size]

Like arm length for a tackle and hand size for a quarterback, height is always a key measurable for a wideout. Percy Harvin will never be big, but he'llstruggle to go in the top 20 picks if he measures 5'9 on Wednesday. Florida is famous for exaggerating a player's size, and it's hard to imagineHarvin living up to his 5'11/195 college listing. It does help Harvin that weigh-ins are on the first day. He'll burn up the track later in the weekand leave a strong impression.

[size=+1]A Weightier Issue[/size]

Some news broke last week regarding a pair of college defensive ends teams are looking at as 3-4 outside linebackers. Everette Brown of Florida State and Penn State'sAaron Maybin are both underclassmen with sizequestion marks.

Maybin, who graduated from high school weighing 220 and was listed at 6'4/236 by the Nittany Lions, plans to report at6'4/250 on February 18. The 20-year-old third-year sophomore will be put through cover drills at the Combine. On top of his Big Ten-best 12 sacks, Maybinflashed the ability to drop into a zone from a three-point stance last season. But will the added weight affect his agility? Whereas a good showing couldsecure Maybin a place in the top nine, he could fall into the 20s if he struggles.

A 21-year-old fourth-year junior, Brown was possibly the nation's most explosive defender in 2008. Using a Dwight Freeney-esque spin move and scintillatingup-field speed, Brown was unblockable by single teams at Florida State. He led the ACC in sacks (13.5) and tackles for a loss (21.5). But it was revealed thatBrown played his final college game at 225 pounds after being listed as 6'4/252 by the Seminoles. Brown could be bumped down draft boards by teams thatemploy four-man fronts if he reports to the Combine under 240.

[size=+1]Differing Opinions on Iowa's Greene[/size]

Early entrant tailback Shonn Greene started only one season at Iowa, but showed starting-caliber NFL ability with 1,850 yards on 307 carries (6.0 average) and 20touchdowns as a junior. The 2008 Doak Walker Award winner is considered the best blocking back available, may be the draft's finest pure power runner, andpossesses Marshawn Lynch-like tackle-breakingability. But opinions differ on the 5'11/235-pounder, who at 23 is a shade older than the usual underclassman.

The media's most recognized draft analysts -- ESPN's Mel Kiper and Todd McShay, and NFL Network's Mike Mayock --weighed in on Greene's draft stock in a conference call with beat reporters last week. Kiper mentioned Greene's inexperience as a pass catcher and saidhe won't be surprised if Greene falls to the middle rounds. Mayock is concerned with Greene's off-field history. He was rumored to balloon to 300pounds after being temporarily kicked out of school for bad grades in 2007. Running backs don't need Harvard degrees to explode through holes, but teamswill surely check Greene's Wonderlic score at the Combine.

From a physical standpoint, straight-line speed is Greene's biggest question mark. A forty time in the low 4.5s couldguarantee Greene a spot in round two. A 4.7, however, could put Greene on the Tony Hunt career path.

[size=+1]Much to Gain[/size]

Another prospect with speed concerns is North Carolina WR Hakeem Nicks. The 6'1/215-pound split end playslike he's 6'4 and will stand out in the receivers' Gauntlet Drill as a pure hands catcher. Nicks never lets passes get into his body, snatchingthem out of the air with outstanding coordination. But he's rumored to run in the 4.6 range, and in a receiver-rich draft such a time would hurt. AfterCrabtree, Nicks is battling Jeremy Maclin,Darrius Heyward-Bey, and Harvin to be thesecond receiver off the board. Nicks' competitors will likely all run sub-4.4s.

Ohio State's Malcolm Jenkins is the draft's consensus top cornerback, but some feel he's better suited for safety in the pros. Jenkins is a vicious,aggressive tackler, possesses safety size at 6'1/201, and has trouble with smaller speed receivers in coverage. If he runs a 4.4 flat at the Combine,however, teams will feel comfortable keeping Jenkins outside. Cornerback is the more valued position and Jenkins could solidify a place in the top eightpicks.

Like his older brother Vernon, consensus No. 2 corner Vontae Davis of Illinois is a physical freak at6'0/204 and will likely run faster than Jenkins. Davis even has a fighter's chance to emerge as the first CB drafted if he performs well in positiondrills and his forty is significantly better.

[size=+1]Under the Radar[/size]

Off-field problems and fumbling affected Texas A&M RB Mike Goodson's playing time early in his college career, anddominant short-yardage specialist Jorvorskie Lane vultured many of his potential touchdowns. As a junior in 2008, Goodson was given the full-time tailbackreigns with Lane converting to fullback, but the Aggies were terrible under new coach Mike Sherman and Goodson generated only 406 rushing yards. Still, theearly entrant offers plus size (6'0/220), receiving ability, and straight-away speed. Despite little fanfare as an Aggie, Goodson is a candidate to shootup draft boards with a dominant Combine.

Southern Mississippi "move" tight end Shawn Nelson was the surprise star of January'sSenior Bowl, exhibiting willingness as a blocker, soft hands, and an impressive 6'5 frame. This draft lacks a clear-cut No. 2 tight end after OklahomaState's Brandon Pettigrew, but Nelson isthe early frontrunner. Jared Cook of SouthCarolina, who Gamecocks coach Steve Spurrier once compared to Calvin Johnson, converted QB and onetime Florida basketball player Cornelius Ingram, and versatile Rice H-back James Casey are other tight ends to watch.

Brian Orakpo ofTexas is considered the draft's top defensive end, but many teams view the Nagurski Award winner as a 3-4 outside linebacker. Northern Illinois'Larry English, Georgia Tech's Michael Johnson, and the aforementioned Brown andMaybin fall into a similar category. There is no consensus top base 4-3 end. That's where Utah redshirt sophomore Paul Kruger could come in. Listed at 6'5/265,Kruger was unstoppable in the Sugar Bowl against Alabama and already wears a borderline first-round grade. Kruger, who went on a two-year Mormon mission beforehis breakout 2008 campaign, could move into the top-20 range with a big week.

[size=+1]Draft-Related News and Notes[/size]

Projections for the fastest forty times by skill position: QB - Pat White (West Virginia); RB - LeSean McCoy (Pitt); WR - Mike Thomas (Arizona); TE -Cornelius Ingram (Florida)...Michigan StateRB Javon Ringer's status for the Combineremains up in the air following arthroscopic knee surgery...Same goes for Florida deep threat receiver Louis Murphy...As many as eight offensive linemencould reportedly go in the first round.

The Bears are likely to use a day-one pick at offensive tackle following news that RT John Tait plans to retire...At least one draftnik agrees with Rotoworld interviewee David Lewin that Mark Sanchez is the best signal caller in thedraft...However, the last underclassman QB tocome close to panning out was Michael Vick in2001...Ohio State MLB James Laurinaitis saysit would only take a few weeks to bulk up to 255 pounds if he's drafted to playinside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme...Once an NFL factory, the Miami Hurricanes are projected to have just oneplayer picked in April -- late-round CB prospect Bruce Johnson...Wondering which analyst to trust? An amazing 90 of Mike Mayock's top 100 playersheading into last year's draft went in the real-life top100.

Evan Silva is a football editor for RotoWorld.com.
 
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Most of the top NFL prospects are scattered about at private training centers or college campuses as they prepare for the annual cattle call known as theScouting Combine. The preparation process has become big business and a huge part of any agent's sales pitch to college stars looking for an advisor. Thereis one major problem, however, with all of the hoopla and commerce surrounding the next big event on the NFL calendar: the physical testing that takes placeand the numbers that are generated become less and less relevant each year.

The trend in the NFL these days is to focus on a prospect's production in college and marry that with his football intelligence and passion for thesport. Call it the Patriot Way, given that New England was clearly one of the teams on the front end of devaluing the data generated by putting footballplayers through an assortment of drills that have nothing to do with football. The next time an offensive lineman does a vertical jump during an actual gamewill be the first. The same goes for a defensive player doing the broad jump. I realize those tests are designed to test natural explosion, but can't agood scout watch the game film and figure out what a player's functional explosion really is? Isn't that all that matters anyway?

Even guys who are only one year removed from the Combine realize its irrelevance.

"None of them," responded Atlanta Falcons middle linebacker Curtis Lofton when asked which drill at the Combine has the most impact onperformance. "Football players are paid to play football. Any emphasis on numbers is crazy. All you need to do is look at a guy on film and you can tellwhether or not he can play."

The problem is that not all talent evaluators trust their film evaluations, so they lean on the data at their disposal like a crutch. Even the inherentlyinsecure scouts need to realize that the numbers are, at best, skewed, and at worst, rendered insignificant due to the amount of prep work that goes intoproducing them.

"It is not a true test anymore," according to longtime NFL executive and current host on Sirius NFL Radio Pat Kirwan. "Guys are so preppedout that there is no way of knowing how much of what they do is natural as opposed to the practice and time they have put into the specific drill."

In other words, just because a player shows great change of direction in the infamous shuttle drill, don't expect that same type of movement on thefield. It is one thing to change direction when you know what direction you are going in and you have practiced it a hundred times. It is altogether differentwhen you don't know when or in which direction your body will need to go, like the live action on a football field.

There is a laundry list of players who get drafted higher than their college production dictates based upon their physical prowess. The New York Jetsselected physical wunderkind Vernon Gholston with the sixth overallpick last year based more upon his freakish combination of size and speed than his inconsistent production at Ohio State. The Patriots, on the other hand, tookTennessee linebacker Jerod Mayo with the 10th pick. He was the NFLDefensive Rookie of the Year. Gholston was a non-factor.

Mayo's maturity in getting his diploma at Tennessee in three years leads to the part of the Combine that holds the most water: the interview. Teamsstrive to do anything they can to dig deep into a player's soul during interviews that can last only 15 minutes. How much does the guy really love thesport? Is he playing because he is immensely talented or because he has a burning passion to compete and dominate? Is he going to be the type of player whogets into the facility by seven in the morning so he can watch film before meetings begin or is he going to be the guy who leaves as soon as practice ends onFriday without any thought of getting another workout in?

Perhaps a sign of the shift in importance, prospects are now trained in how to answer the interview questions they are likely to receive. This can help orhurt depending upon how the prospect delivers his canned answer. Right now Combine invitees all over the country are cramming physically and mentally for thebright lights of evaluation they will be under when they make it to Indianapolis. Think of it as the SAT's for college football players.

Even the guys who haven't gone through the process yet seem to realize its insignificance in the big picture.

"I am ready to get back to football," said Cal center Alex Mack, who used a strong performance in the Senior Bowl to cement his place as the topcenter available in the 2009 NFL Draft.

If my interview with Mack earlier this week on Sirius NFL Radio were an example of how he will perform when interviewed at the Combine, he'll pass withflying colors. He is working out on campus with his college strength coach rather than at a fancy training center because he believes in sticking with what gothim to this point. He responded to a question of what he likes about football by saying he enjoyed "smashing the hell out of the noseguard on double teamsin the running game". He handled questions about protection adjustments and his practice mindset with equal aplomb. Heck, he even said that he wouldrather knock a defender down to the ground with a pancake block than go out on a date with one of Cal's co-eds.

One needs to look no further than Miami Dolphins running back PatrickCobbs to figure out what types of players make and contribute to NFL teams. Cobbs was a pleasant surprise on special teams and out of the backfield for theDolphins last season, catching two touchdown passes, including an 80-yarder against the Houston Texans. Cobbs led the nation in both rushing and scoring as asenior at North Texas yet was not even invited to the Combine due to his measurables. He had to run for scouts on his own.

"The first time I ran the 40 for NFL people they said I ran a 4.8. The scouts really didn't even want to give me a shot after that," saidCobbs.

Cobbs only received one opportunity in pro football, a weekend workout with no contract to speak of and only a promise of a quick look. The team was theproduction-obsessed Patriots. Cobbs made the most of the opportunity and is now going into his fourth year as an NFL running back.

"It looks good to have great numbers on paper," said Cobbs, "but at the end of the day you still have to play football."
 
cant wait. Sucks that im going to be out of town and will miss the last few days
 
For those that don't know, the workouts and position drills don't start until Saturday. Tomorrow through Friday is about checking in, measurements,tests and what have you.

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orakpo will test the best of any player...

dude is a straight FREAK

6'4 260
500+ bench
600+ squat
380 powerclean

4.6 40

42 inch vert
 
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