Obama uses executive privilege to withold Fast and Furious documents 'update'

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Originally Posted by Pig Love

Here's a few questions for you. 

1. Why is there an active nuclear threat in Japan and our government refuses to even address the issue?

 
We cool with Japan. They ain't gonna do anything.

Originally Posted by Pig Love


2. Obama insisted on adding the detention clause to the NDAA after he publicly said on TV he was against it.

Can't beat em, join em

Originally Posted by Pig Love

3. Why are the vaccines given to our pets safer than the ones for our children since ours are tainted with mercury which kills areas of the brain.( DO NOT vaccinate your kids)

Because we can test on animals before we can test on humans.

Originally Posted by Pig Love

4. Why is the TSA groping childrens and adult genitals when they have NEVER caught a terrorist?

You just answered your own question.

Originally Posted by Pig Love

5. Why do you need a high powered Xray performed on you to get on a plane when again, we have never caught a terrorist?

Again, you answered your own question.

Originally Posted by Pig Love

6. Why are cops in Minnesota getting kids high and dropping them off at occupy movements?

Kids had some good %$!%. They were too blitzed to hurt anybody.

Originally Posted by Pig Love

7. Why are 30,000 drones being prepped to monitor us from the sky to spy on peoples gardens?

See answers 4 and 5.

Originally Posted by Pig Love

8. Why are farmers being arrested and threatened with 20 years prison terms for selling raw milk?

Raw milk is milk from cows, sheep, or goats that has not been pasteurized to kill harmful bacteria. This raw, unpasteurized milk can carry dangerous bacteria such as Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria, which are responsible for causing numerous foodborne illnesses.
These harmful bacteria can seriously affect the health of anyone who drinks raw milk, or eats foods made from raw milk. However, the bacteria in raw milk can be especially dangerous to pregnant women, children, the elderly, and people with weakened immune systems.

Originally Posted by Pig Love

9. Why is our government preparing to go into yet another (nuclear this time?) war with a country that does not endanger us?

$$$$$$ Some way or another, it comes back to money.

Originally Posted by Pig Love

10. Why are 53,000 corpses in Florida registered to vote and expected to acually show up to fill out their ballots?

Ask your boys Jeb and Dubya.

Originally Posted by Pig Love

11. Why does George Soros new company have the contract to count the votes for the 2012 presidential election in, wait for it, SPAIN!

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China(or should I say the US)?

Originally Posted by Pig Love

12. Why is our government heavily invested in plastic coffins for the fema centers?

Because bodies floating around the streets of New Orleans wasn't a good look.

Originally Posted by Pig Love

13. Why are there 800 new fema centers that have surfaced in the past ten years if our country is so broke?

Have you ever heard of a Hurricane called, "Katrina" ?

Originally Posted by Pig Love

14. Why are 8 year olds being taught sex ed?

Because they start !++$*%# at 10 now.

Originally Posted by Pig Love

15. Why is one of his biggest campaign contributers Bain Capitol? Mitt Romneys company?

Because he's paying.

 

[university of nike]

President George W. Bush asserted executive privilege six times, while Bill Clinton did so in 14 instances, "both of whom protected the same category of documents we're protecting today (ie after-the-fact internal Executive Branch materials responding to congressional and media inquiries - in this case from the Justice Department). In fact, dating back to President Reagan, Presidents have asserted executive privileged 24 times. President Obama has gone longer without asserting the privilege in a Congressional dispute than any President in the last three decades."

 

[patrick bateman]

Originally Posted by VeintiSiete

Originally Posted by Pig Love

Originally Posted by debs 168

he would be allowed to do more if the congress didn't have it in for him as he got sworn in...

i wanna
NO.
i wan-
NO!
but I wa-
NO!!
but I
NO!!!
bu-
NO!!!!

and how is obama a worse president than bush was? factually speaking.

Here's a few questions for you. 

1. Why is there an active nuclear threat in Japan and our government refuses to even address the issue?

2. Obama insisted on adding the detention clause to the NDAA after he publicly said on TV he was against it.

3. Why are the vaccines given to our pets safer than the ones for our children since ours are tainted with mercury which kills areas of the brain.( DO NOT vaccinate your kids)

4. Why is the TSA groping childrens and adult genitals when they have NEVER caught a terrorist?

5. Why do you need a high powered Xray performed on you to get on a plane when again, we have never caught a terrorist?

6. Why are cops in Minnesota getting kids high and dropping them off at occupy movements?

7. Why are 30,000 drones being prepped to monitor us from the sky to spy on peoples gardens?

8. Why are farmers being arrested and threatened with 20 years prison terms for selling raw milk?

9. Why is our government preparing to go into yet another (nuclear this time?) war with a country that does not endanger us?

10. Why are 53,000 corpses in Florida registered to vote and expected to acually show up to fill out their ballots?

11. Why does George Soros new company have the contract to count the votes for the 2012 presidential election in, wait for it, SPAIN!

12. Why is our government heavily invested in plastic coffins for the fema centers?

13. Why are there 800 new fema centers that have surfaced in the past ten years if our country is so broke?

14. Why are 8 year olds being taught sex ed?

15. Why is one of his biggest campaign contributers Bain Capitol? Mitt Romneys company?

you're trying too hard

I'd honestly like to know how he's "trying too hard" ...

 

[any given sunday89]

 @ OP's biased opinions.. Very cute.

 

[pig love]

Originally Posted by VeintiSiete

Originally Posted by Pig Love

Originally Posted by debs 168

he would be allowed to do more if the congress didn't have it in for him as he got sworn in...

i wanna
NO.
i wan-
NO!
but I wa-
NO!!
but I
NO!!!
bu-
NO!!!!

and how is obama a worse president than bush was? factually speaking.

Here's a few questions for you. 

1. Why is there an active nuclear threat in Japan and our government refuses to even address the issue?

2. Obama insisted on adding the detention clause to the NDAA after he publicly said on TV he was against it.

3. Why are the vaccines given to our pets safer than the ones for our children since ours are tainted with mercury which kills areas of the brain.( DO NOT vaccinate your kids)

4. Why is the TSA groping childrens and adult genitals when they have NEVER caught a terrorist?

5. Why do you need a high powered Xray performed on you to get on a plane when again, we have never caught a terrorist?

6. Why are cops in Minnesota getting kids high and dropping them off at occupy movements?

7. Why are 30,000 drones being prepped to monitor us from the sky to spy on peoples gardens?

8. Why are farmers being arrested and threatened with 20 years prison terms for selling raw milk?

9. Why is our government preparing to go into yet another (nuclear this time?) war with a country that does not endanger us?

10. Why are 53,000 corpses in Florida registered to vote and expected to acually show up to fill out their ballots?

11. Why does George Soros new company have the contract to count the votes for the 2012 presidential election in, wait for it, SPAIN!

12. Why is our government heavily invested in plastic coffins for the fema centers?

13. Why are there 800 new fema centers that have surfaced in the past ten years if our country is so broke?

14. Why are 8 year olds being taught sex ed?

15. Why is one of his biggest campaign contributers Bain Capitol? Mitt Romneys company?

you're trying too hard

Really 

 !

Actually, these were off the top of the dome. Ha Ha!

  

 

[createdestroy]

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

Originally Posted by VeintiSiete

Originally Posted by Pig Love



Here's a few questions for you. 

1. Why is there an active nuclear threat in Japan and our government refuses to even address the issue?

2. Obama insisted on adding the detention clause to the NDAA after he publicly said on TV he was against it.

3. Why are the vaccines given to our pets safer than the ones for our children since ours are tainted with mercury which kills areas of the brain.( DO NOT vaccinate your kids)

4. Why is the TSA groping childrens and adult genitals when they have NEVER caught a terrorist?

5. Why do you need a high powered Xray performed on you to get on a plane when again, we have never caught a terrorist?

6. Why are cops in Minnesota getting kids high and dropping them off at occupy movements?

7. Why are 30,000 drones being prepped to monitor us from the sky to spy on peoples gardens?

8. Why are farmers being arrested and threatened with 20 years prison terms for selling raw milk?

9. Why is our government preparing to go into yet another (nuclear this time?) war with a country that does not endanger us?

10. Why are 53,000 corpses in Florida registered to vote and expected to acually show up to fill out their ballots?

11. Why does George Soros new company have the contract to count the votes for the 2012 presidential election in, wait for it, SPAIN!

12. Why is our government heavily invested in plastic coffins for the fema centers?

13. Why are there 800 new fema centers that have surfaced in the past ten years if our country is so broke?

14. Why are 8 year olds being taught sex ed?

15. Why is one of his biggest campaign contributers Bain Capitol? Mitt Romneys company?

you're trying too hard

I'd honestly like to know how he's "trying too hard" ...

because he just listed the top talking points of obama conspiracy theorists. 

 

[pig love]

Dude those are factual recent events, you can't disprove that they happened.

I swear NT sometimes...

The chaps with no avatars in this thread are failing miserably

 

[patrick bateman]

Originally Posted by Pig Love

Dude those are factual recent events, you can't disprove that they happened.

I swear NT sometimes...

I'm done 

.. Everything is a "conspiracy theory"  to these dudes.. Yall are that clueless to what yall own government is doing?

 

[oh you mad]

Originally Posted by ElCatfisho

Obama is just hongry, pig, let the President cook. 

fixed.

 

[rocman23]

Originally Posted by debs 168

he would be allowed to do more if the congress didn't have it in for him as he got sworn in...

i wanna
NO.
i wan-
NO!
but I wa-
NO!!
but I
NO!!!
bu-
NO!!!!

and how is obama a worse president than bush was? factually speaking.

Dude when he got sworn in both houses were controlled by democrats. Democrats had complete control of washington for 2 years and didn't do squat

 

[kix4kix]

Originally Posted by rocman23

Originally Posted by debs 168

he would be allowed to do more if the congress didn't have it in for him as he got sworn in...

i wanna
NO.
i wan-
NO!
but I wa-
NO!!
but I
NO!!!
bu-
NO!!!!

and how is obama a worse president than bush was? factually speaking.

Dude when he got sworn in both houses were controlled by democrats. Democrats had complete control of washington for 2 years and didn't do squat

Not true.

 

[createdestroy]

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

Originally Posted by Pig Love

Dude those are factual recent events, you can't disprove that they happened.

I swear NT sometimes...

I'm done 

.. Everything is a conspiracy to these dudes

Didn't say it was a "conspiracy"... I said its the "talking points" of conspiracy theorists.
To go through and dissect each of your claims would take alot of time.. so let me just use one example.

14. Why are 8 year olds being taught sex ed?

Then if we get into the actual issue and debate the pros/cons of such a position and whether or not:

 A. it is a bad thing

B. It can be attributed to the Obama presidency

^That's where your "conspiracy theories" will start to show. 

As for the vaccine claim....."Everything is a conspiracy to these dudes "

 

[pig love]

Originally Posted by CreateDestroy

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

Originally Posted by Pig Love

Dude those are factual recent events, you can't disprove that they happened.

I swear NT sometimes...

I'm done 

.. Everything is a conspiracy to these dudes

Didn't say it was a "conspiracy"... I said its the "talking points" of conspiracy theorists.
To go through and dissect each of your claims would take alot of time.. so let me just use one example.

14. Why are 8 year olds being taught sex ed?

Then if we get into the actual issue and debate the pros/cons of such a position and whether or not:

 A. it is a bad thing

B. It can be attributed to the Obama presidency

^That's where your "conspiracy theories" will start to show. 

As for the vaccine claim....."Everything is a conspiracy to these dudes "

[h1]Pornography is replacing sex education[/h1][h2]A rising number of children are learning about sex from watching pornography because sex education lessons are inadequate, researchers have found. [/h2]

Australian researchers said children were turning to adult films because schools were not handling the positive aspects of sex Photo: PHOTOLIBRARY.COM



By Donna Bowater

The average age at which children first watch pornography is just 11, interviews with 140 pupils, teachers and people working in the porn industry also revealed.

Australian researchers Maree Crabbe and David Corlett said children were turning to adult films because schools were not handling the positive aspects of sex.

The researchers presented their findings at a conference at London University's Institute of Education.

"Discussion of sex and intimacy is too often avoided in schools," they said.

"Porn has become a cultural mediator in how young people are understanding and experience sex. Porn is our most prominent sex educator."

According to the Times Educational Supplement, the children who took part in the research said it was common for young people to watch pornography.

A teenage boy told the researchers: "A lot of what I know about sex is because of porn."

Another said: "Growing up, watching porn – that's sort of where you get your grasp of what's normal and what's not."

Mary Clegg, chair of the British Association of Sexual Educators, agreed there was a shortfall in sex education at schools.

"A lot of our sex education is based on a don't-do model," she said.

"But young people are hungry for more explicit information. They're curious and they're hormone-driven."

The research found 88 per cent of scenes in pornographic films showed an element of physical aggression, with most directed at the female participant.

Pupils also appeared to believe that sexual practices shown in porn were normal features of sexual relationships.

The researchers said pupils should be taught how to evaluate porn in sex education lessons.

"To be unable to critique imagery is equivalent to being illiterate in the modern world," they added.

"We need to help young people to resist peer-group pressure to consume porn of to respond to partners' requests for sex they've seen in porn."

Earlier this week, a survey found more young people were having sex under the age of consent. Among 16 to 24-year-old women, more than a quarter had lost their virginity under the age of 16.

Diane Abbott, Labour’s Shadow Health Minister, said: “The rising numbers of girls having under-age sex is alarming. It is not a cost-free phenomenon.

"It poses public health policy challenges and social challenges. The underlying cause must be the ‘pornification’ of British culture and the increasing sexualisation of preadolescent girls.

“Too many young girls are absorbing from the popular culture around them that they only have value as sex objects. Inevitably they act this notion out.

"Government needs to respond to spiralling under-age sex, not with pointless schemes to teach abstinence, but with better PSHE teaching in schools for both girls and boys.

 

[will068]

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Four years ago I thought dude could be the next great leader and was filled with hope. Now four years later I'm disgusted for trusting and voting for him. Dude is worse than Bush, imo, because of all the hope for change that he promised us.

Cosign

 

[createdestroy]

Originally Posted by Pig Love

Originally Posted by CreateDestroy

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

I'm done 

.. Everything is a conspiracy to these dudes

Didn't say it was a "conspiracy"... I said its the "talking points" of conspiracy theorists.
To go through and dissect each of your claims would take alot of time.. so let me just use one example.

14. Why are 8 year olds being taught sex ed?

Then if we get into the actual issue and debate the pros/cons of such a position and whether or not:

 A. it is a bad thing

B. It can be attributed to the Obama presidency

^That's where your "conspiracy theories" will start to show. 

As for the vaccine claim....."Everything is a conspiracy to these dudes "

[h1]Pornography is replacing sex education[/h1][h2]A rising number of children are learning about sex from watching pornography because sex education lessons are inadequate, researchers have found. [/h2]

Australian researchers

The average age at which children first watch pornography is just 11, 

Australian researchers 

The researchers presented their findings at a conference at London University's Institute of Education.

"Discussion of sex and intimacy is too often avoided in schools,"

Mary Clegg, chair of the British Association of Sexual Educators, agreed there was a shortfall in sex education at schools.

"A lot of our sex education is based on a don't-do model," she said.

The underlying cause must be the ‘pornification’ of British culture 

So you quote an article that has information from Australian researchers who did a study based in BRITISH society.



They concluded:

1. Average age of porn introduction = 11 (in the US we teach sex education to 8 year olds...so we beat 'porn-ed' by 3 years)

2. Sex and intimacy is avoided in schools.  (in the US we teach sex education to 8 year olds ...and the reoccurring classes lead all the way into highschool)
3. Their sex ed is based on a "don't do" model  (in the US we teach sex education based on the "how to" model)

Pair your article with my chart showing the falling pregnancy rates and you see a positive outlook on  "8 year old sex ed".

Do you know how to research to support your claims? 

Or are you just admitting you were wrong and decided to show support for the sex education in America?

 

[pig love]

11 year olds are addicted to porn now because they are being hypersexualized in the public school system at ages as young as 8.

The purpose of this is to have a bunch of oversexed zombies that don't come out of their rooms.

It's really very refreshing to see that someone actually wants to debate with me whether or not 3rd graders should be taught sex ed.

Tell the OP in the thread about his cousin wanting to kill himself it's a good idea player.

 

[createdestroy]

Originally Posted by Pig Love

11 year olds are addicted to porn now because they are being hypersexualized in the public school system at ages as young as 8.
Show me a source on the age sex education starts in Great Britain. Show me the source that connects porn addiction to sex education.
The purpose of this is to have a bunch of oversexed zombies that don't come out of their rooms.
Source or data to back this up^
It's really very refreshing to see that someone actually wants to debate with me whether or not 3rd graders should be taught sex ed.
You're welcome
Tell the OP in the thread about his cousin wanting to kill himself it's a good idea player.
Show me the suicide rates of those with 3rd grade sex education vs those without.

 

[swendro]

I'm just going to take a few stabs here:

Originally Posted by Pig Love



Why is the TSA groping childrens and adult genitals when they have NEVER caught a terrorist?

5. Why do you need a high powered Xray performed on you to get on a plane when again, we have never caught a terrorist?


Because the terrorist don't want to ##%+ around trying to bypass these measures. While I'll admit the measures as they stand are far too invasive, couldn't the fact we've never caught a terrorist be considered a good thing? They know they aren't getting weapons on board a plane anymore. The screenings are a deterrent, not a net designed to reign in 1000's of terrorist.


7.

Why are 30,000 drones being prepped to monitor us from the sky to spy on peoples gardens?



This is some tin foil hat !*$@. Bro, this is not going to happen.

8. Why are farmers being arrested and threatened with 20 years prison terms for selling raw milk?


Because the FDA does not approve of raw mlik.
http://www.fda.gov/Food/R.../consumers/ucm079516.htm

9. Why is our government preparing to go into yet another (nuclear this time?) war with a country that does not endanger us?



Obama's going to drop a nuke? Again with the tin foil hat. Baseless speculation on your part.


10. Why are 53,000 corpses in Florida registered to vote and expected to acually show up to fill out their ballots?

Errr...53,000 corpses are not going to rise up on election day to go vote, and if they do we have bigger problems on our hands.


11. Why does George Soros new company have the contract to count the votes for the 2012 presidential election in, wait for it, SPAIN!


I don't know, you tell me.

12. Why is our government heavily invested in plastic coffins for the fema centers?

13. Why are there 800 new fema centers that have surfaced in the past ten years if our country is so broke?
Preparing for disaster =/= plotting mass genocide. So the government should never prepare for any type of catastrophic scenario ever? Or they should do it out over a much longer time span to look less suspicious? FEMA botches the handling of New Orleans post Katrina= FEMA BAD. FEMA sets up FEMA centers= FEMA bad. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't.


15. Why is one of his biggest campaign contributers Bain Capitol? Mitt Romneys company?

Because employees at Bain wanted to contribute to Obama Campaign and there's nothing Mitt Romney can do to stop that.

 

[|A-Man|]

This dude can't seriously be trying to correlate sexual activity to sexual education in schools. Pig Love can't be that dense and have such backwards logic.

They have access to porn and that makes them hyper-sexualized. That's bad parenting. There was no sexual education in 5th grade for me but we all knew the code to unlock the spice channel on the box.

If you don't think sexual education is a deterrent to the young ppl getting STDs and unwanted pregnancies you're completely out of touch with society today.

 

[ruxxx]

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Four years ago I thought dude could be the next great leader and was filled with hope. Now four years later I'm disgusted for trusting and voting for him. Dude is worse than Bush, imo, because of all the hope for change that he promised us.

you actually thought that a president of the united states would actually do what is right for the country?

Yeah c'mon JRS, what were you thinking? 

 

[blaz3n]

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Four years ago I thought dude could be the next great leader and was filled with hope. Now four years later I'm disgusted for trusting and voting for him. Dude is worse than Bush, imo, because of all the hope for change that he promised us.

Whats the highest education you have experienced? 

 

[feedtheego1982]

I have been on an airplane numerous times in the past couple years, once out of the country, and have yet to be fondled or subject to these "high powered" X-rays... Just saying... Those questions look like they are right out of Rush Radio's play book.... Just my opinion.

 

[tee99]

Originally Posted by Keif Sweat

Originally Posted by Pig Love

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Four years ago I thought dude could be the next great leader and was filled with hope. Now four years later I'm disgusted for trusting and voting for him. Dude is worse than Bush, imo, because of all the hope for change that he promised us.

Very well said Johnny, it's good to see some people are awake.

You weren't the only one who was lied to.

as if Obama was the first politician to not follow through on his promises. Such is the nature of politics guys. You both sound very naive.

Strong this. However, If if the ICE Agent was black and Killed by KKK neo-nazi's using Fast and Furious Guns I think more people would give a @!$@

 

[jking0821]

Well this thread took a strange turn talking about 8 year olds and porn.

Anyway it seems like the cool thing to do is hate obama when he hasn't been allowed to pass through any of his plans, congress shuts them all down.  So to say he has been a terrible president is a little naive.

Dude answered every question a page ago and i cosign all of his answers

.  But didn't we catch 2 people on planes with bombs?  There was the underwear bomber thing and wasn't there some guy with a shoe bomb or something?  I am pretty sure we have caught people with these new airport security measures. 

 

[cap1229]

Worse than Bush? Serious?