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Damn, Taiwan Jones is legit
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ham city
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Anybody know if there will be a replay on tonight?
ham city
Banned
- Oct 18, 2009
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Anybody know if there will be a replay on tonight?
- Jun 14, 2007
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**Sigh**
Our secondary is ...sigh
Not even Taiwan Jones' plays today can make up for that.
Orton
Sanchez
Brady
Shaub
Rodgers
Stafford
Rivers
... Etc.
Sigh
Our secondary is ...sigh
Not even Taiwan Jones' plays today can make up for that.
Orton
Sanchez
Brady
Shaub
Rodgers
Stafford
Rivers
... Etc.
Sigh
- Jun 14, 2007
- 5,351
- 3,520
**Sigh**
Our secondary is ...sigh
Not even Taiwan Jones' plays today can make up for that.
Orton
Sanchez
Brady
Shaub
Rodgers
Stafford
Rivers
... Etc.
Sigh
Our secondary is ...sigh
Not even Taiwan Jones' plays today can make up for that.
Orton
Sanchez
Brady
Shaub
Rodgers
Stafford
Rivers
... Etc.
Sigh
- Jan 19, 2002
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i think the Brady, Schaub, Rodgers games are going
for the secondary
- Jan 19, 2002
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i think the Brady, Schaub, Rodgers games are going
for the secondary
dontsteponmyshoes
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I like what Ive seen out of JC. Bush, Hagan, and Jones were awesome, Rolando and Branch played pretty well. Cant wait to see us fully healthy. Why is willie brown still down there talking to the DBs enough of him @%+ was Rod. So pumped for for this season I just copped an HD projector and am in the process of making an 81 in screen for it.
dontsteponmyshoes
Supporter
- Mar 12, 2004
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I like what Ive seen out of JC. Bush, Hagan, and Jones were awesome, Rolando and Branch played pretty well. Cant wait to see us fully healthy. Why is willie brown still down there talking to the DBs enough of him @%+ was Rod. So pumped for for this season I just copped an HD projector and am in the process of making an 81 in screen for it.
- Jan 19, 2002
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I still don't understand why the Raiders nor the players union havent appealed Pryor's suspension. What's the worst that can happen, they say no?
- Jan 19, 2002
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I still don't understand why the Raiders nor the players union havent appealed Pryor's suspension. What's the worst that can happen, they say no?
- Jul 31, 2008
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This baffles me as well. Al's history suggests he'd take this opportunity to stick it to the league once more. Especially considering we've never seen a suspension of this nature before.
Why not suspend Pete Carroll too? How do you justify starting with Pryor?
- Jul 31, 2008
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This baffles me as well. Al's history suggests he'd take this opportunity to stick it to the league once more. Especially considering we've never seen a suspension of this nature before.
Why not suspend Pete Carroll too? How do you justify starting with Pryor?
- Jun 14, 2007
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great article.
Hagan has intangibles Raiders need
Paul Gutierrez
CSNCalifornia.com
OAKLAND -- Derek Hagan is anything but an X-box kind of guy. We learned this in training camp, when coach Hue Jackson praised the journeyman receiver for his work ethic and well, thumbing through the Raiders' playbook on most nights rather than fiddling with a video game controller.
Hagan is a throwback, an Atari 2600 in a Wii world. And against New Orleans in the Raiders' eventual 40-20 exhibition loss, he was as dominant as the pixelated Larry Csonka on Sega.
http://
More impressive, though, he solidified his spot on the Raiders' 53-man roster. At least, if the Raiders were paying attention, he did.
Hagan was everything Chaz Schilens was supposed to be, a rangy target with sure hands and nifty moves in the open field.
He caught all six balls thrown his way for a game-high 121 yards, including a 35-yard touchdown.
"He (was) always telling me in training camp, 'J, all I need is an opportunity. The Giants, I was with them and I didn't really get a chance to get in there and get that real opportunity. I'll make plays and I feel like I can make this team,'" recalled quarterback Jason Campbell. "So with that being said, he went out today and did what he had to do, personally, to make plays and show his ability and show his experience.
"He did a great job in a great opportunity of putting himself in the best position possible. But I think he's a great guy. He's a great teammate and we'll see what happens. But he definitely made a statement."
Perhaps none louder than his catch and run for a touchdown.
It was a straight hitch pass to the left side from Campbell and after cradling the ball, Hagan juked Saints cornerback Tracy Porter out of his own skin before a straight-arm to Porter's facemask set Hagan free. And he was gone for the score, tying the game at 7-7 late in the first quarter.
And yet, coach Hue Jackson was not quite gushing over Hagan, a third-round pick of the Miami Dolphins out of Arizona State in 2006.
If anything, Jackson sort of downplayed Hagan's bright spot on a night of defensive dark blemishes. And that's too bad.
"Until we get everybody back, this young man has a chance to play," Jackson said. "We're down still a couple of guys, an until that unfolds as we continue forward and shape this team to our vision, he's going to have an opportunity."
Meaning the oft-injured Schilens, the recuperating-from-a-broken-left-hand Jacoby Ford and the sounds-like-a-sports-hernia-hobbled Louis Murphy are all technically ahead of Hagan.
In fact, you could say Darrius Heyward-Bey and Denarius Moore are ahead of Hagan on Jackson's depth chart, despite Hagan outperforming the two in this game. Even with Hagan also making a tackle on special teams.
He didn't join the Raiders as a free agent until Aug. 6, when fans were clamoring for Chad Ochocinco, Terrell Owens, Plaxico Burress and the like. And there's always that thought on the streets of Silver and Blackdom that a certain higher power would prefer a draft choice have the spotlight.
But if Hagan's game and his switching jersey numbers last week from No. 6 to No. 80 weren't tell-tale enough signs, Hagan also has the Raiders pedigree. Sort of.
He lived in Los Angeles when the Raiders called the Southland home. He was three days old when the defending Super Bowl champs beat San Diego to start the 1984 season 4-0. And he was 10 years old when they played their final season in the L.A. Memorial Coliseum.
In between, he went to a game or two with his family. One particular game stood out from the rest.
"They played Denver and John Elway came in and," Hagan paused and giggled, "he ripped them up."
Um, from 1988 through 1994 the Raiders were 8-0 in L.A. against the Broncos, including a playoff game.
Meh, semantics. You get the point. The guy grew up swaddled in Silver and Black and now, he's rocking the colors and making a case for him to not only stick, but start. He paid particular mind to an up-and-coming Tim Brown.
"Ever since I was a little kid, I've always been a Raiders fan," Hagan said. "I played for Miami and I played for the Giants and I've always been a Raiders fan. So I always tuned in and checked in to see what was going on. Nothing wrong with that."
Even less wrong with proclaiming him a sure thing to make the team. Then again, what's his Madden '11 rating?
I really hope Hagan makes it. I was most impressed by the jumping catch down the middle to setup a field goal. Shillens, Murphy, Ford, Moore, and now Hagan should all be starting in front of DHBust.
Hagan is the type of player Raiders were known for. The guy who never really got a shot and has a chip on his shoulder.
My WR depth chart.
Shillens
Ford
Murphy
Hagan
Moore
Miller
Terelle Pryor
DHB
Hagan has intangibles Raiders need
Paul Gutierrez
CSNCalifornia.com
OAKLAND -- Derek Hagan is anything but an X-box kind of guy. We learned this in training camp, when coach Hue Jackson praised the journeyman receiver for his work ethic and well, thumbing through the Raiders' playbook on most nights rather than fiddling with a video game controller.
Hagan is a throwback, an Atari 2600 in a Wii world. And against New Orleans in the Raiders' eventual 40-20 exhibition loss, he was as dominant as the pixelated Larry Csonka on Sega.
http://
More impressive, though, he solidified his spot on the Raiders' 53-man roster. At least, if the Raiders were paying attention, he did.
Hagan was everything Chaz Schilens was supposed to be, a rangy target with sure hands and nifty moves in the open field.
He caught all six balls thrown his way for a game-high 121 yards, including a 35-yard touchdown.
"He (was) always telling me in training camp, 'J, all I need is an opportunity. The Giants, I was with them and I didn't really get a chance to get in there and get that real opportunity. I'll make plays and I feel like I can make this team,'" recalled quarterback Jason Campbell. "So with that being said, he went out today and did what he had to do, personally, to make plays and show his ability and show his experience.
"He did a great job in a great opportunity of putting himself in the best position possible. But I think he's a great guy. He's a great teammate and we'll see what happens. But he definitely made a statement."
Perhaps none louder than his catch and run for a touchdown.
It was a straight hitch pass to the left side from Campbell and after cradling the ball, Hagan juked Saints cornerback Tracy Porter out of his own skin before a straight-arm to Porter's facemask set Hagan free. And he was gone for the score, tying the game at 7-7 late in the first quarter.
And yet, coach Hue Jackson was not quite gushing over Hagan, a third-round pick of the Miami Dolphins out of Arizona State in 2006.
If anything, Jackson sort of downplayed Hagan's bright spot on a night of defensive dark blemishes. And that's too bad.
"Until we get everybody back, this young man has a chance to play," Jackson said. "We're down still a couple of guys, an until that unfolds as we continue forward and shape this team to our vision, he's going to have an opportunity."
Meaning the oft-injured Schilens, the recuperating-from-a-broken-left-hand Jacoby Ford and the sounds-like-a-sports-hernia-hobbled Louis Murphy are all technically ahead of Hagan.
In fact, you could say Darrius Heyward-Bey and Denarius Moore are ahead of Hagan on Jackson's depth chart, despite Hagan outperforming the two in this game. Even with Hagan also making a tackle on special teams.
He didn't join the Raiders as a free agent until Aug. 6, when fans were clamoring for Chad Ochocinco, Terrell Owens, Plaxico Burress and the like. And there's always that thought on the streets of Silver and Blackdom that a certain higher power would prefer a draft choice have the spotlight.
But if Hagan's game and his switching jersey numbers last week from No. 6 to No. 80 weren't tell-tale enough signs, Hagan also has the Raiders pedigree. Sort of.
He lived in Los Angeles when the Raiders called the Southland home. He was three days old when the defending Super Bowl champs beat San Diego to start the 1984 season 4-0. And he was 10 years old when they played their final season in the L.A. Memorial Coliseum.
In between, he went to a game or two with his family. One particular game stood out from the rest.
"They played Denver and John Elway came in and," Hagan paused and giggled, "he ripped them up."
Um, from 1988 through 1994 the Raiders were 8-0 in L.A. against the Broncos, including a playoff game.
Meh, semantics. You get the point. The guy grew up swaddled in Silver and Black and now, he's rocking the colors and making a case for him to not only stick, but start. He paid particular mind to an up-and-coming Tim Brown.
"Ever since I was a little kid, I've always been a Raiders fan," Hagan said. "I played for Miami and I played for the Giants and I've always been a Raiders fan. So I always tuned in and checked in to see what was going on. Nothing wrong with that."
Even less wrong with proclaiming him a sure thing to make the team. Then again, what's his Madden '11 rating?
I really hope Hagan makes it. I was most impressed by the jumping catch down the middle to setup a field goal. Shillens, Murphy, Ford, Moore, and now Hagan should all be starting in front of DHBust.
Hagan is the type of player Raiders were known for. The guy who never really got a shot and has a chip on his shoulder.
My WR depth chart.
Shillens
Ford
Murphy
Hagan
Moore
Miller
Terelle Pryor
DHB
- Jun 14, 2007
- 5,351
- 3,520
great article.
Hagan has intangibles Raiders need
Paul Gutierrez
CSNCalifornia.com
OAKLAND -- Derek Hagan is anything but an X-box kind of guy. We learned this in training camp, when coach Hue Jackson praised the journeyman receiver for his work ethic and well, thumbing through the Raiders' playbook on most nights rather than fiddling with a video game controller.
Hagan is a throwback, an Atari 2600 in a Wii world. And against New Orleans in the Raiders' eventual 40-20 exhibition loss, he was as dominant as the pixelated Larry Csonka on Sega.
http://
More impressive, though, he solidified his spot on the Raiders' 53-man roster. At least, if the Raiders were paying attention, he did.
Hagan was everything Chaz Schilens was supposed to be, a rangy target with sure hands and nifty moves in the open field.
He caught all six balls thrown his way for a game-high 121 yards, including a 35-yard touchdown.
"He (was) always telling me in training camp, 'J, all I need is an opportunity. The Giants, I was with them and I didn't really get a chance to get in there and get that real opportunity. I'll make plays and I feel like I can make this team,'" recalled quarterback Jason Campbell. "So with that being said, he went out today and did what he had to do, personally, to make plays and show his ability and show his experience.
"He did a great job in a great opportunity of putting himself in the best position possible. But I think he's a great guy. He's a great teammate and we'll see what happens. But he definitely made a statement."
Perhaps none louder than his catch and run for a touchdown.
It was a straight hitch pass to the left side from Campbell and after cradling the ball, Hagan juked Saints cornerback Tracy Porter out of his own skin before a straight-arm to Porter's facemask set Hagan free. And he was gone for the score, tying the game at 7-7 late in the first quarter.
And yet, coach Hue Jackson was not quite gushing over Hagan, a third-round pick of the Miami Dolphins out of Arizona State in 2006.
If anything, Jackson sort of downplayed Hagan's bright spot on a night of defensive dark blemishes. And that's too bad.
"Until we get everybody back, this young man has a chance to play," Jackson said. "We're down still a couple of guys, an until that unfolds as we continue forward and shape this team to our vision, he's going to have an opportunity."
Meaning the oft-injured Schilens, the recuperating-from-a-broken-left-hand Jacoby Ford and the sounds-like-a-sports-hernia-hobbled Louis Murphy are all technically ahead of Hagan.
In fact, you could say Darrius Heyward-Bey and Denarius Moore are ahead of Hagan on Jackson's depth chart, despite Hagan outperforming the two in this game. Even with Hagan also making a tackle on special teams.
He didn't join the Raiders as a free agent until Aug. 6, when fans were clamoring for Chad Ochocinco, Terrell Owens, Plaxico Burress and the like. And there's always that thought on the streets of Silver and Blackdom that a certain higher power would prefer a draft choice have the spotlight.
But if Hagan's game and his switching jersey numbers last week from No. 6 to No. 80 weren't tell-tale enough signs, Hagan also has the Raiders pedigree. Sort of.
He lived in Los Angeles when the Raiders called the Southland home. He was three days old when the defending Super Bowl champs beat San Diego to start the 1984 season 4-0. And he was 10 years old when they played their final season in the L.A. Memorial Coliseum.
In between, he went to a game or two with his family. One particular game stood out from the rest.
"They played Denver and John Elway came in and," Hagan paused and giggled, "he ripped them up."
Um, from 1988 through 1994 the Raiders were 8-0 in L.A. against the Broncos, including a playoff game.
Meh, semantics. You get the point. The guy grew up swaddled in Silver and Black and now, he's rocking the colors and making a case for him to not only stick, but start. He paid particular mind to an up-and-coming Tim Brown.
"Ever since I was a little kid, I've always been a Raiders fan," Hagan said. "I played for Miami and I played for the Giants and I've always been a Raiders fan. So I always tuned in and checked in to see what was going on. Nothing wrong with that."
Even less wrong with proclaiming him a sure thing to make the team. Then again, what's his Madden '11 rating?
I really hope Hagan makes it. I was most impressed by the jumping catch down the middle to setup a field goal. Shillens, Murphy, Ford, Moore, and now Hagan should all be starting in front of DHBust.
Hagan is the type of player Raiders were known for. The guy who never really got a shot and has a chip on his shoulder.
My WR depth chart.
Shillens
Ford
Murphy
Hagan
Moore
Miller
Terelle Pryor
DHB
Hagan has intangibles Raiders need
Paul Gutierrez
CSNCalifornia.com
OAKLAND -- Derek Hagan is anything but an X-box kind of guy. We learned this in training camp, when coach Hue Jackson praised the journeyman receiver for his work ethic and well, thumbing through the Raiders' playbook on most nights rather than fiddling with a video game controller.
Hagan is a throwback, an Atari 2600 in a Wii world. And against New Orleans in the Raiders' eventual 40-20 exhibition loss, he was as dominant as the pixelated Larry Csonka on Sega.
http://
More impressive, though, he solidified his spot on the Raiders' 53-man roster. At least, if the Raiders were paying attention, he did.
Hagan was everything Chaz Schilens was supposed to be, a rangy target with sure hands and nifty moves in the open field.
He caught all six balls thrown his way for a game-high 121 yards, including a 35-yard touchdown.
"He (was) always telling me in training camp, 'J, all I need is an opportunity. The Giants, I was with them and I didn't really get a chance to get in there and get that real opportunity. I'll make plays and I feel like I can make this team,'" recalled quarterback Jason Campbell. "So with that being said, he went out today and did what he had to do, personally, to make plays and show his ability and show his experience.
"He did a great job in a great opportunity of putting himself in the best position possible. But I think he's a great guy. He's a great teammate and we'll see what happens. But he definitely made a statement."
Perhaps none louder than his catch and run for a touchdown.
It was a straight hitch pass to the left side from Campbell and after cradling the ball, Hagan juked Saints cornerback Tracy Porter out of his own skin before a straight-arm to Porter's facemask set Hagan free. And he was gone for the score, tying the game at 7-7 late in the first quarter.
And yet, coach Hue Jackson was not quite gushing over Hagan, a third-round pick of the Miami Dolphins out of Arizona State in 2006.
If anything, Jackson sort of downplayed Hagan's bright spot on a night of defensive dark blemishes. And that's too bad.
"Until we get everybody back, this young man has a chance to play," Jackson said. "We're down still a couple of guys, an until that unfolds as we continue forward and shape this team to our vision, he's going to have an opportunity."
Meaning the oft-injured Schilens, the recuperating-from-a-broken-left-hand Jacoby Ford and the sounds-like-a-sports-hernia-hobbled Louis Murphy are all technically ahead of Hagan.
In fact, you could say Darrius Heyward-Bey and Denarius Moore are ahead of Hagan on Jackson's depth chart, despite Hagan outperforming the two in this game. Even with Hagan also making a tackle on special teams.
He didn't join the Raiders as a free agent until Aug. 6, when fans were clamoring for Chad Ochocinco, Terrell Owens, Plaxico Burress and the like. And there's always that thought on the streets of Silver and Blackdom that a certain higher power would prefer a draft choice have the spotlight.
But if Hagan's game and his switching jersey numbers last week from No. 6 to No. 80 weren't tell-tale enough signs, Hagan also has the Raiders pedigree. Sort of.
He lived in Los Angeles when the Raiders called the Southland home. He was three days old when the defending Super Bowl champs beat San Diego to start the 1984 season 4-0. And he was 10 years old when they played their final season in the L.A. Memorial Coliseum.
In between, he went to a game or two with his family. One particular game stood out from the rest.
"They played Denver and John Elway came in and," Hagan paused and giggled, "he ripped them up."
Um, from 1988 through 1994 the Raiders were 8-0 in L.A. against the Broncos, including a playoff game.
Meh, semantics. You get the point. The guy grew up swaddled in Silver and Black and now, he's rocking the colors and making a case for him to not only stick, but start. He paid particular mind to an up-and-coming Tim Brown.
"Ever since I was a little kid, I've always been a Raiders fan," Hagan said. "I played for Miami and I played for the Giants and I've always been a Raiders fan. So I always tuned in and checked in to see what was going on. Nothing wrong with that."
Even less wrong with proclaiming him a sure thing to make the team. Then again, what's his Madden '11 rating?
I really hope Hagan makes it. I was most impressed by the jumping catch down the middle to setup a field goal. Shillens, Murphy, Ford, Moore, and now Hagan should all be starting in front of DHBust.
Hagan is the type of player Raiders were known for. The guy who never really got a shot and has a chip on his shoulder.
My WR depth chart.
Shillens
Ford
Murphy
Hagan
Moore
Miller
Terelle Pryor
DHB
dontsteponmyshoes
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- Mar 12, 2004
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You dudes make me sick really. Always willing to slurp Schillens but quick to type DHBust at any sign of a dropped pass. %%$ do you guys see in Schillens..ive personally never see anything hes never on the field!
dontsteponmyshoes
Supporter
- Mar 12, 2004
- 13,265
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You dudes make me sick really. Always willing to slurp Schillens but quick to type DHBust at any sign of a dropped pass. %%$ do you guys see in Schillens..ive personally never see anything hes never on the field!
- Jul 23, 2007
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DMo is a starter.
- Jul 23, 2007
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DMo is a starter.
- Jun 14, 2007
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Shillens can catch the ball with his hands. DHB catches with his body. Shillens has made one handed grabs in real NFL games and is a possesion receiver. Murphy is not as good as shillens so thats why i put him lower. Ford only has one year of experience and is too small to be our #1 imo. Moore hasnt catched a pass in a season game so thats why he is lower. Hagan has had really good preseason games especially yesterday but I havent seen him in a season game. Nick Miller has made spectacular catches in real games and preseason so thats why he is above DHB too. Terrelle Pryor is a QB but he is 0-0 as a wide receiver which is still better than DHBs catch to pass ration.
Some of Chaz below...For my favorite Chaz catch check my avy.
- Jun 14, 2007
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Shillens can catch the ball with his hands. DHB catches with his body. Shillens has made one handed grabs in real NFL games and is a possesion receiver. Murphy is not as good as shillens so thats why i put him lower. Ford only has one year of experience and is too small to be our #1 imo. Moore hasnt catched a pass in a season game so thats why he is lower. Hagan has had really good preseason games especially yesterday but I havent seen him in a season game. Nick Miller has made spectacular catches in real games and preseason so thats why he is above DHB too. Terrelle Pryor is a QB but he is 0-0 as a wide receiver which is still better than DHBs catch to pass ration.
Some of Chaz below...For my favorite Chaz catch check my avy.
- Feb 17, 2007
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I always look forward to AJ's posts, just for the pictures he always has ready to go
I want Hagan in the mix, I want him on our roster. As Steve Corkran, one of the local beat writers, said, it should be Moore as one of the starters at Denver. He also mentions Hagan starting too, but if Schillens can go then I'd be more comfortable with him in there, for all the reasons AJ posted. Our offense should carve up Denver, especially with our running game and Taiwan Jones giving us a three-headed attack that I don't think Denver will be able to manage all four quarters.
I want Hagan in the mix, I want him on our roster. As Steve Corkran, one of the local beat writers, said, it should be Moore as one of the starters at Denver. He also mentions Hagan starting too, but if Schillens can go then I'd be more comfortable with him in there, for all the reasons AJ posted. Our offense should carve up Denver, especially with our running game and Taiwan Jones giving us a three-headed attack that I don't think Denver will be able to manage all four quarters.
- Feb 17, 2007
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I always look forward to AJ's posts, just for the pictures he always has ready to go
I want Hagan in the mix, I want him on our roster. As Steve Corkran, one of the local beat writers, said, it should be Moore as one of the starters at Denver. He also mentions Hagan starting too, but if Schillens can go then I'd be more comfortable with him in there, for all the reasons AJ posted. Our offense should carve up Denver, especially with our running game and Taiwan Jones giving us a three-headed attack that I don't think Denver will be able to manage all four quarters.
I want Hagan in the mix, I want him on our roster. As Steve Corkran, one of the local beat writers, said, it should be Moore as one of the starters at Denver. He also mentions Hagan starting too, but if Schillens can go then I'd be more comfortable with him in there, for all the reasons AJ posted. Our offense should carve up Denver, especially with our running game and Taiwan Jones giving us a three-headed attack that I don't think Denver will be able to manage all four quarters.
The_Isomotion31
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I actually would like the idea of making Moore a starter and having Hagan in the slot.
The_Isomotion31
formerly thewindscar31
- Aug 17, 2005
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I actually would like the idea of making Moore a starter and having Hagan in the slot.
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