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OK we get itOriginally Posted by Bigmike23
anyone see that pro bowl CB for the deadskins drop ANOTHER INT?
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OK we get itOriginally Posted by Bigmike23
anyone see that pro bowl CB for the deadskins drop ANOTHER INT?
Bigmike23 wrote:
-still trying to figure out how 49er fans thought Alex Smith was the answer.
-Most 49ers fans on the street and the stadium, and internet believe Alex Smith is a bum.
-The 49ers fans you hear having faith in Alex Smith and giving excuses on his poor play are the vocal internet fans on message boards who still will find excuses for him no matter what.
-Alex Smith fans are actually in the minority, but seem like the majority because you'll always see messages from them (on message boards) finding why Alex Smith failed this time and because they are very vocal on the internet.
-The 49ers are hell bent on showing the NFL that Alex Smith isn't a bust that you also have San Francisco newspapers giving B.S. stories as to why Alex Smith will succeed and will be a top 20 QB. (Most 49ers fans think actually think otherwise.)
Originally Posted by blakmn89
bengals weak
nate needs 2 learn how 2 go outta bounds. alex smith shud be benched already
glad lt iz back 2 playin lika beast.
hope mike vick gets betta cus kolb iz weaksauce
bears betta hope dey finda new qb cus jay culter looks like he gna be a frequent er patient lol
raiders wrs plz catch da DAMN ball cuz bruce gv ya good looks smh
Originally Posted by blakmn89
bengals weak
nate needs 2 learn how 2 go outta bounds. alex smith shud be benched already
glad lt iz back 2 playin lika beast.
hope mike vick gets betta cus kolb iz weaksauce
bears betta hope dey finda new qb cus jay culter looks like he gna be a frequent er patient lol
raiders wrs plz catch da DAMN ball cuz bruce gv ya good looks smh
the 3 teams that are tiedOriginally Posted by DoubleJs07
Originally Posted by Deuce King
--49ers just find new ways to lose the ball game each week now.
--Too bad Donovan F. McNabb couldn't speak up for himself when massa said something against him a few years ago.
--Giants D-Line showed up big time last night.
--Welcome back Jay Culter
--T.O. showing everyone that he can still play
--Ray Ray leading the charge to beat Pitt.
--The NFC East and West is still wide open.
For who?
Originally Posted by EvansST
I thought Vick's numbers were only good because he didn't play anybody...[table][/table]
Aaron Rodgers vs. the Lions 12/17 181 yards 3tds 2int
Peyton Manning vs. the Jaguars 33/46 352 yards 2tds 1int
I'm not saying Vick is better than Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers but give credit where credit is due.
The numbers, and the impact, don't lie.
I realize it might be an unfair day to make the comparison that Kyle Orton's better than Jay Cutler, but I'm not pitting the quarterbacks against each other on the basis of Orton's terrific road performance at Tennessee and on Cutler's feeble and concussed one in New Jersey Sunday night. This is about a body of work -- granted, not a deep body of work, but a 20-game stretch.
In the NFL, a 20-game sample is enough to make a valid comparison. And on the basis of 20 games, it's hard to argue that Chicago got the better of the Jay Cutler-for-Kyle Orton deal. Forget the ancillary parts of the deal; Denver has not drafted well, and I'm not doing this item to get into the value of the two first-round picks and the third-rounder (which turned into Mike Wallace for the Steelers) acquired by Denver in the deal. Denver didn't do a good job with those picks, but I'm just talking Cutler for Orton. And after Orton's 341-yard performance in the 26-20 win over the Titans, I thought it would be a good chance to take a 20-game look at the two passers. I was surprised by what I found.
QB W-L Pct. Yards TD-Int Yards per att. Rating
Orton 10-9 .634 5,221 27-15 7.29 89.1
Cutler 10-10 .615 4,578 33-29 6.97 80.7
Through the first four weeks of the 2010 season, Orton's 1,419 passing yards leads the NFL; Cutler is 507 yards behind him.
As I remember the April 2009 trade, I'll never forget Denver coach Josh McDaniels telling me he wished Cutler just gave him, and his offense, a chance. "He'd have loved it,'' McDaniels said. "I think any quarterback would love it.''
Cutler got the change of scenery he wanted, but he struggled under offensive coordinator Ron Turner last year, and he's being plagued by terrible protection issues under new coordinator Mike Martz this year; he was sacked nine times and suffered a concussion Sunday night against the Giants.
How long will Cutler have Martz to work with? Who knows? Martz doesn't stay in one coordinator's job very long -- two years in Detroit, one in San Francisco and one now in Chicago. Then again, if the Broncos continue to flame out, Denver owner Pat Bowlen could make a change at head coach, but he's likely to give McDaniels at least one more year.
Quarterbacks under McDaniels have to be smart because McDaniels gives them so much latitude to change plays, both in the meeting rooms and on the field. Orton's very quiet, but I've witnessed him (last May) in meetings changing little things to make it easier to recall and call plays.
You'll remember, this was supposed to be a lopsided deal favoring the Bears. It's not every day you have the chance to get a franchise quarterback in his prime, still young enough to give you six or seven seasons. It's still very early, and we don't know if Orton can keep it up. He's going to have Tim Tebow breathing down his neck in a few months, I'd guess. But he's outplaying Cutler right now. When a quarterback is more accurate and has the better average per pass attempt, that means he's moving the chains and getting the ball downfield. Right now, Orton's better at both.
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