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CP1708 wrote:
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Deuce, come on man, just stop already. Peyton Manning was the son of a QB, went to Tennessee, played 4 years in the same system, could never win the big game (sound familiar?) then the very season he leaves for the NFL, Tennessee goes on to win the national championship.
He joins the Colts with young Marvin Harrison already there, Marvin played pretty good his rookie year also, and had a decent college career, he was no bum off the streets.
They add Edge James the next year giving Peyton a top tier running back for the next 7-8 years. After that they add Reggie Wayne so that Marvin can no longer be doubled. Add to that a WR in a TE possition in Dallas Clark. All of this, with a solid offensive line, and the same offensive coordinator his ENTIRE career. Alex Smith has had like 5 in 5 years has he not?
Oh by the way, Peyton had a very solid Mike Vanderjact (best FG% while at Indy) until that dude melted down in Dallas.
He could never win the big game, until the season in which the Colts finally had a healthy Freeny, Mathis, Bathea and Bob Sanders all at the same time. That year? Manning was simply "brilliant" with his 3 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in 4 games. With QB ratings of 71.9, 39.6, 79.1, and 81.8. Hardly GOAT status right there.
Meanwhile, Brady is a 6th round pick, comes in mid season for an injured Drew Bledsoe (the franchise player at the time) and does so well, that when Drew is healthy, he loses his job. Tom is the new QB for the Patriots, not for his arm, but for his brain. He plays the way Bill wants, no mistakes, no forced passes, do what you can to move the offense. An offense that had Troy Smith as it's best WR. Or Givens. Or Branch. Bethel Johnson maybe? Any elite Tight Ends that were better then Dallas Clark you can think of? Me either. How bout elite running backs to take the pressure off Tom? Can't name one of those either? Hmmmm. But he did have a great Defense. And a great coach. And they did what they had to do to win the game. They were not going to be the greatest show on Turf, because they did not have the personnel for that. But 7 years later, when they had Randy Moss and Wes Welker, that offense moved along did it not? They were simply one miracle play away from Tom throwing the winning TD pass to Moss. Peyton's BROTHER, was the one that threw that miracle toss. Even he has already matched his big brother in terms of Super Bowl success. But let me back track, Brady (who, as you stated, rode the coattails of Adam Vinateri to super bowl greatness, produced games such as 86.2, 100.5, and 110.2 in 3 super bowls, all better then Mannings games in his super season. Brady in those 3 bowls? 6 TD's, 1 INT. As you said, he couldn't have done it without Adam.
BTW, how did Adam do in that Super Bowl that Peyton won? Didn't he kick 3 field goals i that game? And Manning did what, throw one touchdown pass himself correct? You don't find that ironic?
So yes, both Peyton and Tom are great, but to dismiss what Tom has done to make Peyton look so superior is ridiculous and beyond lame. Give Brady all those weapons and a full decade to play with them, and see what Tom coulda done numbers wise. Yes, it's impressive to see Peyton call his own plays and all that, you can do that when you have the same offense for 10 years with no coaching movement or players in and out of the lineup. That's what happens. The bottom line is, Tom was a miracle play from having 4 rings, an undefeated season, the best winning percentage after 100 games Ever, and MVP, over 200 TD's, with fewer then 100 ints, and you're in here telling me he owes all of it to a kicker that got your boy his lone ring just the same. Come on.
