New Report - Aaron Hernandez Molested as a Child - p. 167

[jordan23dotcom]

Lol, "you don't know what you're talking about" "no you don't know!" Y'all are funny

 

[shoelyesses]

You made a bunch of assumptions about him too based off the fact that he went to college but ok . You got it bro hes frontin.

what assumptions...hell someone posted the article in here. Which is what im basing it off of. He was a well typical kid up until his later teenage years shortly after his father died. So where is the assumption in that. This is his mothers and high school coach and lil league football coach words. Which are more credible then yours.

Based off that im not making an assumption. I said late teens he goes off hang with the wrong crowd tries to be down. Its not like it was his culture or he was his upbringing. He didn't grow up a gangster, so where is the assumption in that? Im sorry but thugs don't just be some average overall good kid then wake up one day, damn near a grown man and start being some hardcore thug mob type dude.

Could he have killed them sure.. not saying it isn't in the realm of possibility. But a reason or motive would have to be known before I decide which way to sway.

Now if his past was different, and he grew into this etc... yea. To say he a thug would be like saying OJ was a thug. Or young jeezy is a thug, and mobster.

 

[dajoka004]

Apparently I've grown to old for this whole damn site now. I thought S&T was the last place of refuge.

 

[antidope]

So he couldnt change? Things like the death of a parent does that to people. His Mom? Of course shes going to talk about him in apositive light, same with the other two people you mentioned, like you siad he was a kid then. You made the assumption that thugs dont go to D1 schools. We are all aware he didnt grow up thuggin, a lot of people dont., those are things that happen when youre old enough to make the choice to do so. Its not like little kids care about thug activities like that. Young Jeezy is in fact a thug sir.

I dont understand the fascination with wanting to know the motive. Same with the Millburn NJ home invasion guy. Will the motive really do that much in terms of changing your opinion? There are few reasons where such actions are justified and I'm willing to bet that neither Hernandez or that guy were in such situations. Its irellevant IMO.

I'm dying to know the motive.

Personally it's not changing my opinion on if it was justified.

I just need to know what caused him to pull off one of the worst-executed crimes in history.

Was he sloppy cause he was in a rage? Paranoid? Or just plain stupid?

Fair enough. People were making it seem like they needed to know the motive so that they would have a reason to feel sympathetic for him, at least thats how I took it.

 

[nooera]

Apparently I've grown to old for this whole damn site now. I thought S&T was the last place of refuge.

So true

S+T is still about its business though. Occasionally a thread like this pops up and its but also a lot of :x

S+T >>>>>>>>

 

[shoelyesses]

So he couldnt change? Things like the death of a parent does that to people. His Mom? Of course shes going to talk about him in apositive light, same with the other two people you mentioned, like you siad he was a kid then. You made the assumption that thugs dont go to D1 schools. We are all aware he didnt grow up thuggin, a lot of people dont., those are things that happen when youre old enough to make the choice to do so. Its not like little kids care about thug activities like that. Young Jeezy is in fact a thug sir.
Fair enough. People were making it seem like they needed to know the motive so that they would have a reason to feel sympathetic for him, at least thats how I took it.

I actually now jeezy and no he is not a thug....hell I knew him when he was lil j. Thug he is not.... Did he kick it associate with thugs/dealers sure. But one himself nah.... But im not trying to feel empathy or exhaust him of anything he may or may have done.

But I think the death... the not dealing with the death, being around the ppl he was around, and outside of his immediate family, know one having a true interest in him and his well being outside of being money/football related all play a role.

He seems like what Chappelle show ..."When trying to keep it real, Goes wrong" Even the way if true they allege the events went down. Sounds like some big talk, imam do this that and the other, his boys ribbing him on, him trying to prove he down and not wanting to cower out, did it hastily and scared.

I mean if he did it, it points to inexperienced, and just caught in the moment. It if true and convicted is too sloppy, to unorganized and just overall too too messy to be done by some cold blooded og killer who been there, done that..on some just another day of being a thug.

But like many others I am curious as to why he did it if he infact did it, And if didn't do it and set it up, why. In most of the high profile cases like this you kinda have a insight as to why certain events happen or why the crime occurred or a motive/reason for the crime.

In this case your like um..... ok I think in most part ppl wanna know, not to excuse him, but just human nature of curiosity.

 

[celticsfan9783]

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[mjsaver]

Thugs come in all different shapes and sizes, there are no specific rules or requirements for thug status.

" thugs don't go to d1 "
" he had a nice upbringing "
" he's not from the projects so he ain't have it that bad "

All of these basic blanket statements are also assumptions so please stop trying to pass off your own assumptions as fact while downplaying others.

The fact you bring up knowing Young Jeezy is irrelevant but might explain why you think your word or thoughts on the case hold more weight than others.

You sound like the other NTer who lumped all semi pro ballers together because he knew a couple

Just because he ain't Tookie or Monster doesn't mean he's pee wee Herman, could've fell somewhere in between.

 

[wade187]

Not that it's relevant, or that I even understand why dude is arguing this. But the most intelligent of thugs don't make it through school let alone a d1 college. I still think dude is a goon/knucklehead, but there really is no way dude was putting in real work while attending school. Those kids trying to be down are the ones who be quick to catch a body though, the term goon doesn't stem from intelligence

 

[ohmygosher]

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wait what? dude was in the latin kings then turned into a blood. killed a guy and is being investigating for other killings and shootings, and the pictured don't help either

he a front just like a lot of guys....Man I went to school with a ton of dudes who had decent to well of to very well off lives, something major or dramatic happen in their lives or they try to get social acceptance from ppl or try to prove how down they are by messing with real thugs and real gangsters.

And this sounds exactly like what Hernandez did. Dude was a normal everyday kid, then just out the blue he is babyface nelson...lol man get real. I mean I could see yall point if he was on some broken home, living in the pj's, out struggling trying to make it in life.

Saying he a thugs is like saying Chris Brown is a thug, or the rapper Rick Ross is a thug. Thugs don't go to div 1 college. Last I checked Kody "Monster" wasn't attending CalU.... Tookie Williams wasn't out receiving no b.s.  at a top nation university.

Ppl kill me with this anybody who commits a crime or do some unexplained foolishness is a thug. Could it be possible dude was just a poser, trying to be so called "down" and to prove his worth or realness acted and did the alleged things he did?

Im not going to be impartial and just tried and convict the man like a majority of this thread has done. But in most part aint to many if any thugs, dope dealers, pimps, street gang dudes out attending major universities and playing professional sports. Now are there a many of posers, fakes and frauds out trying to be down and seem like they keeping it real doing it sure. And just like 99% of rappers seems like Hernandez fits the bill....

He a football version of The Game, Plies, Rick Ross, Yung Berg...so on and so forth.
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[jjs07]

DORCHESTER, Mass. – Standing outside Odin Lloyd's funeral, Boston Bandits general manger Mike Branch wants to make something clear: "Odin wasn't a drug dealer. He was not no drug dealer. He was hanging with the wrong person."

Sitting on the front steps of his family's house in Dorchester, Safiro Furtado's cousin is upset about how his slain cousin has been characterized. "Oh is he gang-related? Is he in a gang?" people ask him. "That's how they make it seem," the cousin says. "Far from it."

Dorchester, death and a New England Patriot

 

[frshstunna]

at No thugs/goons/ ****** in gangs etc in college

 

[jjs07]

at No thugs/goons/ ****** in gangs etc in college

Who said that? Might be the dumbest thing I've read on here today.

Teenaged Aaron Hernandez Punched A Bar Employee After Refusing To Pay

Aaron Hernandez sucker-punched a Gainesville bar employee in 2007, injuring the man seriously enough that police recommended felony charges be brought against the then 17-year-old Florida Gators player.

That's according to a police report acquired by the Wall Street Journal, in which authorities say the underaged Hernandez consumed two "alcoholic drinks" at popular student bar The Swamp before assaulting an employee who demanded he pay up. The punch left bar manager Michael Taphorn with a ruptured eardrum, and police recommended Hernandez be arrested on felony assault charges.

Why, then, wasn't he? That's a great question. The state attorney for Alachua County's district, Bill Cervone, professed ignorance to the Hernandez felony assault recommendation. (Cervone donates between $1,800 and $2,299 a year to the Florida football program.) Later in 2007, Hernandez would be brought in for questioning in regard to a Gainesville nightclub shooting.

Hernandez went on to appear in five games for the Gators that 2007 season, catching two touchdown passes from Tim Tebow.

Deadspin

Hernandez Saw Trouble at Florida
Report Shows That After a Bar Fight, Police Recommended a Charge of Felony Battery

As prosecutors prepare to try former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez on murder and gun charges, new details have emerged about a 2007 bar fight at the University of Florida that suggest the incident was far from trivial.

According to a 2007 police report obtained Monday by The Wall Street Journal, Hernandez had a brush with the law at Florida before he'd even played a down.

On May 4, 2007, only months after Hernandez had enrolled at Florida, he showed up at a restaurant called The Swamp near Florida's campus in Gainesville, Fla., a two-story bar and grill that features framed jerseys of former Florida stars.

WSJ Article

 

[RyGuy45]

Media mafia stayin on top of their game...

Aaron Hernandez DOMESTIC INCIDENT with Fiancee in L.A. Area
TMZ.com

Aaron Hernandez was involved in a domestic incident with his fiancée a year ago that sent cops racing to his rental home in a beachside community in L.A. ... TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement sources tell us Hernandez was renting a place in Hermosa Beach in June, 2012, when a neighbor called police to report a domestic disturbance -- "fighting" -- between the ex-Patriots star and his fiancée, Shayanna Jenkins inside his home.

We're told when police arrived, Jenkins said she was ok and didn't want to press charges so they left without making an arrest.

Law enforcement sources also tell us ... cops came to the house several other times after neighbors made noise complaints. One source says Hernandez "acted like an a**hole" when cops responded.

Our sources say Hernandez still has the rental home. Our law enforcement sources say so far ... cops have not obtained a warrant to search the apartment.

Teenaged Aaron Hernandez Punched A Bar Employee After Refusing To Pay
Deadspin.com

Aaron Hernandez sucker-punched a Gainesville bar employee in 2007, injuring the man seriously enough that police recommended felony charges be brought against the then 17-year-old Florida Gators player.

That's according to a police report acquired by the Wall Street Journal, in which authorities say the underaged Hernandez consumed two "alcoholic drinks" at popular student bar The Swamp before assaulting an employee who demanded he pay up. The punch left bar manager Michael Taphorn with a ruptured eardrum, and police recommended Hernandez be arrested on felony assault charges.

Why, then, wasn't he? That's a great question. The state attorney for Alachua County's district, Bill Cervone, professed ignorance to the Hernandez felony assault recommendation. (Cervone donates between $1,800 and $2,299 a year to the Florida football program.) Later in 2007, Hernandez would be brought in for questioning in regard to a Gainesville nightclub shooting.

Hernandez went on to appear in five games for the Gators that 2007 season, catching two touchdown passes from Tim Tebow.

 

[addict4sneakers]

if he's not a thug, he's doing a great job acting like one.

 

[pepperjackchees]

Media mafia stayin on top of their game...

Teenaged Aaron Hernandez Punched A Bar Employee After Refusing To Pay
Deadspin.com

Aaron Hernandez sucker-punched a Gainesville bar employee in 2007, injuring the man seriously enough that police recommended felony charges be brought against the then 17-year-old Florida Gators player.

That's according to a police report acquired by the Wall Street Journal, in which authorities say the underaged Hernandez consumed two "alcoholic drinks" at popular student bar The Swamp before assaulting an employee who demanded he pay up. The punch left bar manager Michael Taphorn with a ruptured eardrum, and police recommended Hernandez be arrested on felony assault charges.

Why, then, wasn't he? That's a great question. The state attorney for Alachua County's district, Bill Cervone, professed ignorance to the Hernandez felony assault recommendation. (Cervone donates between $1,800 and $2,299 a year to the Florida football program.) Later in 2007, Hernandez would be brought in for questioning in regard to a Gainesville nightclub shooting.

Hernandez went on to appear in five games for the Gators that 2007 season, catching two touchdown passes from Tim Tebow.

Hate how football players get away with everything in Murica. Even high school football players

 

[nooera]

Hate how football players get away with everything in Murica. Even high school football players :x

The God-status some of these players attain is more or less confined to Southern states. And super star athletes get special priveleges all over the world. Not just in the United States. Please take that 'Murica' rhetoric elsewhere .

And damn Aaron

Dude has problems.

 

[pepperjackchees]

Hate how football players get away with everything in Murica. Even high school football players

The God-status some of these players attain is more or less confined to Southern states. And super star athletes get special priveleges all over the world. Not just in the United States. Please take that 'Murica' rhetoric elsewhere .

And damn Aaron

Dude has problems.

I know it happens with different sports in other countries too, but in many parts of the US, high school athletes are treated like Gods (hint hint :Steubenville). The problem is that these players get a sense of entitlement as kids and think they can get away with anything. That's a bad combination when you're dealing with thugs like Hernandez.

 

[celticsfan9783]

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[nooera]

I know it happens with different sports in other countries too, but in many parts of the US, high school athletes are treated like Gods (hint hint :Steubenville). The problem is that these players get a sense of entitlement as kids and think they can get away with anything. That's a bad combination when you're dealing with thugs like Hernandez.

Very true. I apologize if i came off agressively. I just thought you generalized a tad bit. In certain states/cities/towns, your on field production gets you off field priveleges. In other areas, it doesnt.

However theres no doubt this is the case with Hernandez . There was a report on the radio (havent seen it in this thread yet) that he was a passenger in a car driven by Bradley (the man he shot in the face) . Bradley was driving drunk going 100+ mph in a Yukon. When pulled over, Hernandez leans over from the passenger seat and says "its okay trooper, im Aaron Hernandez".

Seems Aaron figured he was untouchable.

 

[pepperjackchees]

I know it happens with different sports in other countries too, but in many parts of the US, high school athletes are treated like Gods (hint hint :Steubenville). The problem is that these players get a sense of entitlement as kids and think they can get away with anything. That's a bad combination when you're dealing with thugs like Hernandez.

Very true. I apologize if i came off agressively. I just thought you generalized a tad bit. In certain states/cities/towns, your on field production gets you off field priveleges. In other areas, it doesnt.

However theres no doubt this is the case with Hernandez . There was a report on the radio (havent seen it in this thread yet) that he was a passenger in a car driven by Bradley (the man he shot in the face) . Bradley was driving drunk going 100+ mph in a Yukon. When pulled over, Hernandez leans over from the passenger seat and says "its okay trooper, im Aaron Hernandez".

Seems Aaron figured he was untouchable.

No worries. I see where you're coming from too.

 

[a55a5in11]

Y'all buggin over some lil battery charge that the coach/program cleaned up? Programs clean up effin rapes and B&Es and all kinds of other crazy ish on the REGULAR. Calm down

highly doubt programs are cleaning up rapes and B&E on the regular, considering i watched my favorite team kick off the star QB Masoli for a B&E

 

[jjs07]

@ programs cleaning up rapes on the regular.

 

[nako xl]

Y'all buggin over some lil battery charge that the coach/program cleaned up?

Programs clean up effin rapes and B&Es and all kinds of other crazy ish on the REGULAR. Calm down

highly doubt programs are cleaning up rapes and B&E on the regular, considering i watched my favorite team kick off the star QB Masoli for a B&E

that wasn't his first offense bruh...

and I'm a usc AND jets fan, but who remembers when mark sanchez sexual assaulted that girl at school?  right.

 

[clyde the glide]

@ programs cleaning up rapes on the regular.

what is funny about serious felonies being swept under the rug as if its normal?