NBC employee claims Bill Cosby paid off women, invited young models to dressing room.

[EddieDoyers]

I've seen it more than once in here and I don't think it's fair to use policy brutality and murder to make a point in this situation.

How is it not fair?

Practically some of the posts here are saying "Oh if she wasn't being a **** and was looking to sleep with wealthy married men, this wouldn't have happened", like how? Do all wealthy married men who cheat on their wives drug and rape their mistress?

It mirrors the same type of logical fallacies that is done in those threads.

Bill Cosby has no sworn duty to protect and serve citizens. Dudes just a serial rapist.

You can point to whatever posts in here you want, I'm not going to make the connection in my head that those situations should be compared that way. Again you don't have to agree, I'm not bout to feel any type of way about how you feel. Just stating I don't think it's a fair point to make.

Fair enough if you feel that way.

I just have a problem with dudes trivializing rape like that. It's touchy subject given the victims I have talked to and what happens to them after.
They are free to give their opinion, but I'm not going to just agree with their logic.

 

[deleted]

I don't think it's fair to ask for the victim of a heinous crime to share the blame with the person who victimized them

And that sentiment directly applies to both scenarios

 

[EddieDoyers]

Get out your feelings. Multiple posts have been made that state the contrary. You dudes act like women when you face opposition. It's hilarious.

Again, I don't mind opposing opinions if they are respectful. If you saw, I didn't go hammer on lamekilla and RIP sleazy today. Apologies to lamekilla for the heated words yesterday since I thought he was wildin by justifying rape. I'm just questioning why they feel that way. I'm just not going to agree 100% unless it's real convincing.

 

[Mark Antony]

I've seen it more than once in here and I don't think it's fair to use policy brutality and murder to make a point in this situation.

How is it not fair?

Practically some of the posts here are saying "Oh if she wasn't being a **** and was looking to sleep with wealthy married men, this wouldn't have happened", like how? Do all wealthy married men who cheat on their wives drug and rape their mistress?

It mirrors the same type of logical fallacies that is done in those threads.

"He shouldn't have been smoking weed"
"He shouldn't have been out that late"
"He shouldn't have been on that corner"
"She should have complied"
"She shouldn't have had a drink with him in private setting"

The justification is similar. Toss it aside because it's closer to home, but that's human nature.

Folks get in their feelings when the mirror is on them.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

lamekilla each one teach one, that's the only way we're gonna survive out here.

I've seen it more than once in here and I don't think it's fair to use policy brutality and murder to make a point in this situation.

How is it not fair?

Practically some of the posts here are saying "Oh if she wasn't being a **** and was looking to sleep with wealthy married men, this wouldn't have happened", like how? Do all wealthy married men who cheat on their wives drug and rape their mistress?

It mirrors the same type of logical fallacies that is done in those threads.

Bill Cosby has no sworn duty to protect and serve citizens. Dudes just a serial rapist.

You can point to whatever posts in here you want, I'm not going to make the connection in my head that those situations should be compared that way. Again you don't have to agree, I'm not bout to feel any type of way about how you feel. Just stating I don't think it's a fair point to make.

Fair enough if you feel that way.

I just have a problem with dudes trivializing rape like that. It's touchy subject given the victims I have talked to and what happens to them after.
They are free to give their opinion, but I'm not going to just agree with their logic.

I don't agree with trivializing it either, and I agree it's a very emotionally driven subject just like police murder. I've been the guy receiving the phone call from a friend at night after someone was physically assaulted by someone they trust.

And I don't think you should just agree. You're doing the right thing challenging what you think is wrong and I appreciate it because within the American culture and how women are viewed, it doesn't happen as often as it should.

I don't think it's fair to ask for the victim of a heinous crime to share the blame with the person who victimized them

And that sentiment directly applies to both scenarios

I don't think that's fair either. What I'm saying is police officers are (supposedly) there to protect and serve.

Bill Cosby took no oath to do anything like that. A better comparison in my eyes is "he shouldn't have been robbed but why was he walking around the city at night by himself" or something of that nature, which is still goofy. But Bill Cosby is a former comedian, actor, and a serial rapist.

But that's just me. Again, I get that some of you agree with it framed that way but I can't. I get the sentiment, but I already know people can be pieces of ****. Most are not actively taking on a job where their purpose is to do the exact opposite and then murdering people, and that's where I have an issue with framing it that way. I personally would not use that to make my point.


If I'm "in my feelings" for not agreeing with comparing police brutality talking points to this situation I'll take that, I don't really care

 

[6pac]

And of course I agree with this. Rape culture is at an all time high and it's up to each and every person to police each other and look out for the next person. This isn't just a situation on women, men need to step up and assume culpability for any injustices they see occurring around them as well as it pertains to something like rape. We should make it a habit to not only shun sexual predators but also encourage men and woman to be very aware of their surroundings and to think twice when accepting drugs and/or alcohol in a not so familiar environment and without close friends/family around.
How many situations have you heard of a woman raping a man? You could probably count on your fingers but the reality is that men more often than not are the sexual predators and women more often than not are the prey. My whole point is that you preach accountability to BOTH and to avoid any situation that could lead to that or could be perceived as that. It's not a situation where men exercise all precaution and woman walk around aimlessly or vice versa.
Thank you.


You can make a point without having to hurl insults. When did I imply that the women wanted an affair and deserved to be raped? I'm not understanding why me saying a woman making a bad descicion in drinking with a married man in a private setting is causing so many feelings to be tugged on. You get in a car with a drunk driver and the car gets into a wreck, it's not your fault. You weren't driving. You didn't intend to get into a wreck, you weren't the one driving. It's the driver's fault, they shouldn't have drove while intoxicated. They will be punished accordingly. But I will ask you, "why did you get in the car with someone that was drunk at the wheel?" Why is this situation any different? Because they were suppose to trust Cliff Huxtable? Or because men are obligated to be chivalrous gentlemen and should never even think of something so vile? This is the real world, when you choose to live in it you'll realize that there are people out there that can harm you and take advantage of you and you should avoid any compromising situation at all costs. You constantly assess every scenario, situation and person that is UNFAMILIAR to you. This goes for both men and women.

"He shouldn't have been smoking weed"
"He shouldn't have been out that late"
"He shouldn't have been on that corner"
"She should have complied"
"She shouldn't have had a drink with him in private setting"

The justification is similar. Toss it aside because it's closer to home, but that's human nature.

Folks get in their feelings when the mirror is on them.

You didn't say they deserve to be raped...true

But you are still insistent that they should share the blame with the rapist

It's a lot like the "he didn't deserve to die, but he should have just complied" nonsense that we hear when a cop murders a civilian

I think what his logic is closer to, if we're gonna make the parallel, is:

"It's not right, but you shouldn't provoke or otherwise go out of your way to disrespect police"

It's different because of the historical context that causes POC to do the above and still be done wrong but it's no different than saying "I don't talk to police", that ideally shouldn't be the case but looking at the world realistically, it's the safest and smartest way to operate.

generally for all the comparisons y'all are trying to make it boils down to not necessarily being the victim's fault, but maybe there were decisions they made that had cause and effect involvement in the position that they ended up in, i.e. the drunk driver example where you knowingly get into a drunk driver's car.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

Married is mentioned bc it provides context.

What does being married have to do rape?
That's an irrelevant context.

not to women, broads will be da first to tell other broads "you doing dirt with a married men, you already knowingly running risks"

that married qualifier ain't really for dudes to digest like that, its a woman to woman gem.

If the risk is you might raped.

Then those women are dumb scumbag pieces of **** too.

 

[Mark Antony]

Nah you already said that you don't think it's a fair comparison and that's fine, not really in regards to you. However At this stage we know the police department​ isn't our friend and we run some risk engaging, whether it's their responsibility or not to protect. They are a threat, this much is clear. I see the response rhetoric as the same, according to lamekilla not just the incident but looking at everything leading up to it.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

You can make a point without having to hurl insults.

I'm not trying to hear this bull **** from you after the plain disgusting and disrespectful **** youve been on for pages.

You are what you are. You've made that very clear.

When did I imply that the women wanted an affair and deserved to be raped? I'm not understanding why me saying a woman making a bad descicion in drinking with a married man in a private setting is causing so many feelings to be tugged on. You get in a car with a drunk driver and the car gets into a wreck, it's not your fault. You weren't driving. You didn't intend to get into a wreck, you weren't the one driving. It's the driver's fault, they shouldn't have drove while intoxicated. They will be punished accordingly. But I will ask you, "why did you get in the car with someone that was drunk at the wheel?" Why is this situation any different? Because they were suppose to trust Cliff Huxtable? Or because men are obligated to be chivalrous gentlemen and should never even think of something so vile? This is the real world, when you choose to live in it you'll realize that there are people out there that can harm you and take advantage of you and you should avoid any compromising situation at all costs. You constantly assess every scenario, situation and person that is UNFAMILIAR to you. This goes for both men and women.

Playing dumb aint working either.

Any dude running with the train of thought that women put themselves in the situation to get raped cuz they want to mess with a married man in a "private setting" is a soft piece of ****.


Its the same poisonous thinking racists and SWS reach for when a black man is murdered by police.

"He mustve done something wrong."

Yall are clowns.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I've seen it more than once in here and I don't think it's fair to use policy brutality and murder to make a point in this situation.

It's really not even close lol Dudes pulling scenarios out of anywhere bc they can't handle differing opinions. Classic NT

Seems like you two of you are letting the magnitude of the situations block you from looking at the structure of the arguments.

What is being compared is the victim blaming arguments that people like Lamekilla make about Cosby's victim and white conservative make about the victims of police brutality.

Not Cosby's crimes to a policeman killing or assaulting someone.

 

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Rusty the point has been explained multiple times but these dudes are just too emotional for it If they don't get it they don't get it.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Nah you already said that you don't think it's a fair comparison and that's fine, not really in regards to you. However At this stage we know the police department​ isn't our friend and we run some risk engaging, whether it's their responsibility or not to protect. They are a threat, this much is clear. I see the response rhetoric as the same, according to lamekilla not just the incident but looking at everything leading up to it.

I got you. I definitely see what you're saying about response rhetoric and I feel you. That's why I don't take it as "that's a dumb comparison" and more like, I wouldn't personally use that to make the point.

I've seen it more than once in here and I don't think it's fair to use policy brutality and murder to make a point in this situation.

It's really not even close lol Dudes pulling scenarios out of anywhere bc they can't handle differing opinions. Classic NT

Seems like you two of you are letting the magnitude of the situations block you from looking at the structure of the arguments.

What is being compared is the victim blaming arguments that people like Lamekilla make about Cosby's victim and white conservative make about the victims of police brutality.

Not Cosby's crimes to a policeman killing or assaulting someone.

Nah I fully understand the structure and the point of the argument, I just don't agree with using it as the point. It might be for the magnitude, I don't really know. I just don't feel it personally. Any time I see it and really feel like expanding on it I speak on it. Nothing personal towards those who would.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

I've seen it more than once in here and I don't think it's fair to use policy brutality and murder to make a point in this situation.

How is it not fair?

Practically some of the posts here are saying "Oh if she wasn't being a **** and was looking to sleep with wealthy married men, this wouldn't have happened", like how? Do all wealthy married men who cheat on their wives drug and rape their mistress?

It mirrors the same type of logical fallacies that is done in those threads.

Bill Cosby has no sworn duty to protect and serve citizens. Dudes just a serial rapist.

You can point to whatever posts in here you want, I'm not going to make the connection in my head that those situations should be compared that way. Again you don't have to agree, I'm not bout to feel any type of way about how you feel. Just stating I don't think it's a fair point to make.

This is where the scumbag mentality.

Cops swore to protect and serve but regular dudes didn't make a pledge not to rape women.

That's the point you're standing on to say a comparison cant be made.

You dudes weren't being reasonable to start but will freely engage in to intellectual dishonesty and anti-logic to dodge a point and deny how similar you are to SWS and racists cuz you invoke the same piss poor excuses.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

I've seen it more than once in here and I don't think it's fair to use policy brutality and murder to make a point in this situation.

How is it not fair?

Practically some of the posts here are saying "Oh if she wasn't being a **** and was looking to sleep with wealthy married men, this wouldn't have happened", like how? Do all wealthy married men who cheat on their wives drug and rape their mistress?

It mirrors the same type of logical fallacies that is done in those threads.

Bill Cosby has no sworn duty to protect and serve citizens. Dudes just a serial rapist.

You can point to whatever posts in here you want, I'm not going to make the connection in my head that those situations should be compared that way. Again you don't have to agree, I'm not bout to feel any type of way about how you feel. Just stating I don't think it's a fair point to make.

This is where the scumbag mentality.

Cops swore to protect and serve but regular dudes didn't make a pledge not to rape women.

That's the point you're standing on to say a comparison cant be made.

You dudes weren't being reasonable to start but will freely engage in to intellectual dishonesty and anti-logic to dodge a point and deny how similar you are to SWS and racists cuz you invoke the same piss poor excuses.

I'm agreeing with everything but the point of using police brutality to make the point.

Shut your goofy *** up and read what I'm saying instead of picking out portions to be upset about, smart guy.

 

[Mark Antony]

Nah you already said that you don't think it's a fair comparison and that's fine, not really in regards to you. However At this stage we know the police department​ isn't our friend and we run some risk engaging, whether it's their responsibility or not to protect. They are a threat, this much is clear. I see the response rhetoric as the same, according to lamekilla not just the incident but looking at everything leading up to it.

I got you. I definitely see what you're saying about response rhetoric and I feel you. That's why I don't take it as "that's a dumb comparison" and more like, I wouldn't personally use that to make the point.

I've seen it more than once in here and I don't think it's fair to use policy brutality and murder to make a point in this situation.

It's really not even close lol Dudes pulling scenarios out of anywhere bc they can't handle differing opinions. Classic NT

Seems like you two of you are letting the magnitude of the situations block you from looking at the structure of the arguments.

What is being compared is the victim blaming arguments that people like Lamekilla make about Cosby's victim and white conservative make about the victims of police brutality.

Not Cosby's crimes to a policeman killing or assaulting someone.

Nah I fully understand the structure and the point of the argument, I just don't agree with using it as the point. It might be for the magnitude, I don't really know. I just don't feel it personally. Any time I see it and really feel like expanding on it I speak on it. Nothing personal towards those who would.

And I completely understand why you wouldn't use it as a point, I really do, but doesn't make it less topical in my eyes.

 

[EddieDoyers]

RIP sleazyy is a good guy
He means well

 

[RustyShackleford]

RIP sleazyy is a good guy
He means well

I dunno about that b.

Yesterday I saw him victim blaming and bullying a dude whose feelings were hurt over not being taken seriously.

It had something to do with gang banging and coal.

He ain't innocent

 

[EddieDoyers]

RIP sleazyy is a good guy
He means well

I dunno about that b.

Yesterday I saw him victim blaming and bullying a dude yesterday whose feelings where hurt over not being taken seriously.

It had something to do with gang banging and coal.

He ain't innocent

 

[RIP sleazyy]

RIP sleazyy is a good guy
He means well

I dunno about that b.

Yesterday I saw him victim blaming and bullying a dude whose feelings were hurt over not being taken seriously.

It had something to do with gang banging and coal.

He ain't innocent

 

[lamekilla]

Nah you already said that you don't think it's a fair comparison and that's fine, not really in regards to you. However At this stage we know the police department​ isn't our friend and we run some risk engaging, whether it's their responsibility or not to protect. They are a threat, this much is clear. I see the response rhetoric as the same, according to lamekilla not just the incident but looking at everything leading up to it.

But that's an unjust comparison any way you slice it because I'm not formulating an opinion off of how someone looks or preconceived notions about a race of people but rather their actions that led up to them drinking in a private setting with a married man and just like what Sleazy said, Bill Cosby didn't take up an oath to serve and protect these women. Systematic genocide and sexual assault are both horrible and both different.

I'm not trying to hear this bull **** from you after the plain disgusting and disrespectful **** youve been on for pages.

You are what you are. You've made that very clear.
Playing dumb aint working either.

Any dude running with the train of thought that women put themselves in the situation to get raped cuz they want to mess with a married man in a "private setting" is a soft piece of ****.


Its the same poisonous thinking racists and SWS reach for when a black man is murdered by police.

"He mustve done something wrong."

Yall are clowns.

Control your emotions (sir?) and try and add information to this discussion instead of constantly hurling insults toward me because your reading comprehension is suspect. Would you condon your girlfriend, mom or daughter going to have drinks with a married man in a private setting? Say yes, so you can highlight how much of a sucker you really are...

Rusty the point has been explained multiple times but these dudes are just too emotional for it If they don't get it they don't get it.

Clearly.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

The person making an unjust comparison is complaining about an "unjust comparison

I've seen it more than once in here and I don't think it's fair to use policy brutality and murder to make a point in this situation.

How is it not fair?

Practically some of the posts here are saying "Oh if she wasn't being a **** and was looking to sleep with wealthy married men, this wouldn't have happened", like how? Do all wealthy married men who cheat on their wives drug and rape their mistress?

It mirrors the same type of logical fallacies that is done in those threads.

Bill Cosby has no sworn duty to protect and serve citizens. Dudes just a serial rapist.

You can point to whatever posts in here you want, I'm not going to make the connection in my head that those situations should be compared that way. Again you don't have to agree, I'm not bout to feel any type of way about how you feel. Just stating I don't think it's a fair point to make.

This is where the scumbag mentality.

Cops swore to protect and serve but regular dudes didn't make a pledge not to rape women.

That's the point you're standing on to say a comparison cant be made.

You dudes weren't being reasonable to start but will freely engage in to intellectual dishonesty and anti-logic to dodge a point and deny how similar you are to SWS and racists cuz you invoke the same piss poor excuses.

I'm agreeing with everything but the point of using police brutality to make the point.

Shut your goofy *** up and read what I'm saying instead of picking out portions to be upset about, smart guy.

No I read that dumb **** and I'm specifically speaking to you taking exception with that.

There's no ******* difference.

But it doesn't even have to be police. It could be any time a white person "stand their ground", kills a black person and we get those bull **** excuses all the same.

I'm not trying to hear this bull **** from you after the plain disgusting and disrespectful **** youve been on for pages.

You are what you are. You've made that very clear.
Playing dumb aint working either.

Any dude running with the train of thought that women put themselves in the situation to get raped cuz they want to mess with a married man in a "private setting" is a soft piece of ****.


Its the same poisonous thinking racists and SWS reach for when a black man is murdered by police.

"He mustve done something wrong."

Yall are clowns.

Control your emotions (sir?) and try and add information to this discussion instead of constantly hurling insults toward me because your reading comprehension is suspect.

Irrelevant deflections due to faulty assumptions.

This aint emotions or about comprehension. You can't control these facts. Doesn't matter how my ch you plead for it.

You are what you are.

Would you condon your girlfriend, mom or daughter going to have drinks with a married man in a private setting? Say yes, so you can highlight how much of a sucker you really are...

First off explain why you think what you condone or don't condone ******* matters?

I wouldn't give a **** enough to condone it or not either way.

This is what happens when you live life like a coward.

You see drinks with a married man as a potential dangerous situation based off of ignorance or a couple of terrible personal experiences. So those are triggers for YOU.

There is nothing inherently bad or wrong about drinks with a married man but I do see the glaring sexism in this view by you.

Tell us lame how many drinks with married men you've had that you didn't think twice about? Or do you also have a story where you almost got raped as well?

**** outta here with this bull **** man. You too soft.

You out here trying to shift blame to women who were raped and cover it up with women should be more cautious and know better but the inherent problem here is you're trying to paint married men as rapists and Don't see how stupid that is to compare to a drunk driver. The driver is already drunk dumbass.

 

[deleted]

I never mentioned race in the comparison I made

 

[Mark Antony]

Take away race and gender, the victim blaming rhetoric is still the same.

 

[lamekilla]

The person making an unjust comparison is complaining about an "unjust comparison
No I read that dumb **** and I'm specifically speaking to you taking exception with that.

There's no ******* difference.

But it doesn't even have to be police. It could be any time a white person "stand their ground", kills a black person and we get those bull **** excuses all the same.
Irrelevant deflections due to faulty assumptions.

This aint emotions or about comprehension. You can't control these facts. Doesn't matter how my ch you plead for it.

You are what you are.
First off explain why you think what you condone or don't condone ******* matters?

I wouldn't give a **** enough to condone it or not either way.

This is what happens when you live life like a coward.

You see drinks with a married man as a potential dangerous situation based off of ignorance or a couple of terrible personal experiences. So those are triggers for YOU.

There is nothing inherently bad or wrong about drinks with a married man but I do see the glaring sexism in this view by you.

Tell us lame how many drinks with married men you've had that you didn't think twice about? Or do you also have a story where you almost got raped as well?

**** outta here with this bull **** man. You too soft.

You out here trying to shift blame to women who were raped and cover it up with women should be more cautious and know better but the inherent problem here is you're trying to paint married men as rapists and Don't see how stupid that is to compare to a drunk driver. The driver is already drunk dumbass.

Why would you "not give a **** enough" to condone or not condone something your mother or daughter or girlfriend does as it pertains to drinking with another man, who's married and then doing that in a private setting. I don't see drinks with a married man as potentially dangerous but once you add a private setting to the equation the situation at best is questionable. Why does it have to be in a private setting? I've never been in a situation where I've been raped or close to it but due to how much passion you have for this topic maybe there's something you could share with us to make me and others reconsider their views. I'm not painting a married man a rapist but as a man what are your intentions in drinking with another woman who is not your wife or your relative or your close friend? I don't think they are instanneously ideas of rape but I don't think the intentions are pure either. I am what I am which is cognizant. You are what you are which is full of estrogen.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

No I read that dumb **** and I'm specifically speaking to you taking exception with that.

There's no ******* difference.

But it doesn't even have to be police. It could be any time a white person "stand their ground", kills a black person and we get those bull **** excuses all the same.

Oh yeah I don't care. People got what I meant and if they disagreed or whatever we hashed it out, that's good enough for me. If you think that makes me similar to WS and racists, I'm not worried about that either.

I made it pretty clear that I don't agree with victim blaming in the first place if you read my other posts.

Calm down guy.