NBC employee claims Bill Cosby paid off women, invited young models to dressing room.

[RustyShackleford]

lamekilla
You're talking in circles now.

You instantly assume have a alcoholic drink with a women means sex has to pop off. Like are you that thirsty that you can't imagine a world, or situation, where dudes do not try to smash everything in their sight. Are one that Steve Harvey, men and women can't be friends steez.

And whether or not women should consider the "risk" before hand, does not make them culpable in their own sexual assault.

You know what increases your chances or dying in a car crash, being a driver. So then we should blame drivers if a drunk person runs them off the road in the middle of the night because they should have known it was dangerous. They should have considered the variables in their head.

-You know what could have solved this debate. If Bill Cosby would have not introduced narcotics into the situation, especially without these women knowledge.

Then they will be free to consent to sex, or decline it.

Rusty where are all these assumptions coming from? Way too many analogies being presented in a situation that could have been avoided through many different inferences. Without a doubt Cosby is wrong and sick. The women were naive though, extremely naive. That shouldn't go unnoticed.

lamekilla catching hell

"Catch more dirt than cleats and I beat up beef, like Rocky in a meat freezer"

Ohhhh so you take issue with me making assumptions about you.

But it is wavy for you to make it about others.

That is kinda hypocritical famb.

Like I said, you don't seem to really grasp the argument you are making

 

[EddieDoyers]

No woman even if they are naive deserves to get dateraped you dumb****

 

[Mark Antony]

"Women have brains" son act like he's talking about dolphins or something putting people on game.

 

[RustyShackleford]

And dudes really can't see how these arguments mirror arguments you hear conservative whites making about victims of racism.

 

[lamekilla]

Aight.


Just to be clear, what is your position on spiking drinks lamekilla?

c'mon fam. Spiking drinks is wrong, pathetic, and beyond dangerous. Anyone spiking a drink is someone with issues that need immediate psychological attention after they have been criminalized and punished.

How the **** is the relevant to how I feel about women? There are many smart and many dumb ones. They shouldn't get drugged and raped regardless of the situation. It's against the law.

Just because I'm saying the women should be culpable for their actions in allowing themselves to be in a private setting with a married man and accepting alcohol doesn't not mean I'm saying Cosby is innocent. Cosby is as guilty as sin, yes. The women however did not have to meet Cosby in a private setting, especially since he was married and they most definitely did not have to accept a drink.

@lamekilla your boss or someone prominent in your industry asks you to come hang. You saying no?

Under what circumstances? Where would be at? Who are we going to be with? What are we doing? Things normal people assess in their mind. Now if there's something specific I want from my boss/some one prominent in my industry, I'll probably gloss over those specifics. I didn't think things all the way through. There's a risk that something could happen that I'm not prepared for like not bringing the company excel spread to talk files over or not being appropriately dressed. I didn't consider these things, should I not be held accountable?

This is so stupid. Take any of the women, say she was devious, say she planned to be in a private setting with Bill having drinks with the possibility in her head of even consensual sex to advance her career. NONE OF THAT MAKES IT HER ******* FAULT FOR GETTING RAPED.

The fact you even have to say you think women have brains is weird, and shows how you feel about them. Like no ****.

No woman deserves to be raped, ever. I'm of the belief though that a woman should do everything in her power to avoid any situation that could pose such a threat. Would you be comfortable with your mother, wife or daughter having drinks with a married man one on one?

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Agreed. I don't see why dudes point is so hard to understand. Dudes can't handle the fact that not everyone is gonna be with coddling women regardless of whatever.

 

[EddieDoyers]

Dawg why u going through mental gymnastics with this bs
Women don't deserve to get raped PERIOD

If they cheat on me, I will be a bit mad, but whatever, it is what it is
But if that man rapes my woman, he's gonna catch some hell.
The further you keep saying "but she could have not gone", it just proves how much of a crappy person you are by justifying rape. And don't give me that bs excuse "b-b-but she should have not gone"
Yeah he should have not raped her bro, and he deserves to get decked in face and his penis cut off

I really hope you don't treat your future daughter like she should be guilty of being a victim when telling her life lessons. Sure everyone makes mistakes, but they don't deserve to get raped in any case.

 

[dreamer23]

some of yall deep down hate women...feel sorry for y'alls daughters/mothers/sisters/aunts/cousins

 

[brian blades]

@lamekilla boss/someone prominent just says, "come to my crib and watch the game" you saying no?

 

[deleted]

No woman deserves to be raped, ever. I'm of the belief though that a woman should do everything in her power to avoid any situation that could pose such a threat. Would you be comfortable with your mother, wife or daughter having drinks with a married man one on one?

If your mother, wife, or daughter were raped, would you be comfortable with someone saying to her "that's terrible...but did you do everything in your power to avoid that situation"?

 

[heliumclinton]

It's interesting to read people condemn the justice system yesterday and commend it today.

Which is why things won't change because people only advocate when it benefits them.

 

[ninjahood]

So Bill Cosby was this known unsafe sexual predator?

nothing that wasn't common for da time in Hollywood (see Roman Polanski)

its funny Cosby's own demographic tearing him down.

meanwhile...

 

[northoaklandfc]

It's interesting to read people condemn the justice system yesterday and commend it today.

Which is why things won't change because people only advocate when it benefits them.

Stop with the "they" and the "yall" and and the "people" rhetoric.

We got one idiot condoning rape, don't let that one fact get that moral high horse you like to ride on gender issues get to trotting.

Literally no one has commended the justice system.

 

[EddieDoyers]

So Bill Cosby was this known unsafe sexual predator?

nothing that wasn't common for da time in Hollywood (see Roman Polanski)

its funny Cosby's own demographic tearing him down.

meanwhile...

Hollywood has and still is filled with a bunch of creeps and pedophiles

I don't get why people defend these clowns when they rape or molest another human being.

 

[noblekane]

lamekilla getting american me'd in here

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he aint been the same since lebron lost

 

[Sir San Diego]

What am I looking at here? Another Rachel Dolezal situation?

Those are two women Gloria Allred is representing that decided to become extra black for the Bill Cosby trial. Why?

 

[lamekilla]

Asked 3 different women last night (mother, girlfriend and sister) their opinion on the situation and if a woman should use as much caution and awareness when approaching any situation where you are not in a familiar setting. All 3 emphatically agreed with my position. My mother even said "why would a woman accept a drink that she didn't see being made?" My girlfriend and my sister think that Cosby should see time for the rest of his life while my mother feels as though that Cosby is being framed for being black and powerful. Generational bias I guess. I personally feel like regardless of what happens, Cosby's legacy has been tarnished forever.

 

[SC kid]

Asked 3 different women last night (mother, girlfriend and sister) their opinion on the situation and if a woman should use as much caution and awareness when approaching any situation where you are not in a familiar setting.

Doesnt everyone agree with this?

 

[gentrification]

I feel what homeboy is saying doe

 

[lamekilla]

Doesnt everyone agree with this?

I thought everyone would agree as well but many posters in here feel as if no woman should be questioned about being in a questionable situation.

 

[EddieDoyers]

Asked 3 different women last night (mother, girlfriend and sister) their opinion on the situation and if a woman should use as much caution and awareness when approaching any situation where you are not in a familiar setting. All 3 emphatically agreed with my position. My mother even said "why would a woman accept a drink that she didn't see being made?" My girlfriend and my sister think that Cosby should see time for the rest of his life while my mother feels as though that Cosby is being framed for being black and powerful. Generational bias I guess. I personally feel like regardless of what happens, Cosby's legacy has been tarnished forever.

That still doesn't excuse rape. Congrats that they have great common sense, but does that mean the victims of date rape deserve to get shamed? Smh.

 

[brian blades]

I thought everyone would agree as well but many posters in here feel as if no woman should be questioned about being in a questionable situation.

Don't go out after midnight either fam. Bad **** happens

 

[EddieDoyers]

Dawg you really gonna defend a man who drops pills in drinks and blame the victims, you're a sick man lamekilla

All this "oh they shouldn't have tried to sleep with Bill Cosby" is irrelevant horse****
You don't ****** drug a woman for perverted reasons no matter what

I'm not defending Cosby whatsoever. He did that, and its pathetic and just horrible. But as a woman you protect yourself at all costs. Your lapses in mental judgement shouldn't be absolved just because you're crying. Why the **** are you drinking with a married man in a private setting?

This is amazing. Like you can't even see it.

I wonder if you were drinking with your homeboy, and he spikes your drink, then gets his Fleece Johnson.

If you would wake up in the morning like " , should have know better, my mans caught me slipping"

Because that seems like that is the reaction you expect from these women.

RustyShackleford had the best analogy of this.

 

[EddieDoyers]

Also please read this lamekilla , then you will understand my position

http://www.southernct.edu/sexual-misconduct/facts.html

Victim-blaming attitudes marginalize the victim/survivor and make it harder to come forward and report the abuse. If the survivor knows that you or society blames her for the abuse, s/he will not feel safe or comfortable coming forward and talking to you.

Victim-blaming attitudes also reinforce what the abuser has been saying all along; that it is the victim’s fault this is happening. It is NOT the victim’s fault or responsibility to fix the situation; it is the abuser’s choice. By engaging in victim-blaming attitudes, society allows the abuser to perpetrate relationship abuse or sexual assault while avoiding accountability for his/her actions.

What Does Victim-Blaming Look Like?

Example of Victim-Blaming Attitude: “She must have provoked him into being abusive. They both need to change.”

Reality: This statement assumes that the victim is equally to blame for the abuse, when in reality, abuse is a conscious choice made by the abuser. Abusers have a choice in how they react to their partner’s actions. Options besides abuse include: walking away, talking in the moment, respectfully explaining why an action is frustrating, breaking up, etc. Additionally, abuse is not about individual actions that incite the abuser to hurt his partner, but rather about the abuser’s feelings of entitlement to do whatever he wants to his partner.

When friends and family remain neutral about the abuse and say that both people need to change, they are colluding with and supporting the abusive partner and making it less likely that the survivor will seek support.

You probably won't agree still, but your statements sound like what rape culture engenders

 

[lamekilla]

That still doesn't excuse rape. Congrats that they have great common sense, but does that mean the victims of date rape deserve to get shamed? Smh.

Why should a victim be shamed for being raped? I'm not shaming any woman for being taken advantage of. Take the fact that these women were taken advantage of out the equation and I would still ask "why are you drinking with a married man in a private setting?"

Don't go out after midnight either fam. Bad **** happens

As a black man, im definitely aware of this. And anytime I go out after midnight, I will assess any potential risk I could run into and act accordingly.