**NBA FINALS THREAD - RAPTORS DEFY GRAVITY**

Who Will Win it All?

  • Warriors

    Votes: 86 53.4%
  • Bucks

    Votes: 27 16.8%
  • Raptors

    Votes: 9 5.6%
  • Nuggets

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Rockets

    Votes: 13 8.1%
  • Sixers

    Votes: 5 3.1%
  • Celtics

    Votes: 6 3.7%
  • Clippers

    Votes: 5 3.1%
  • Other West Team

    Votes: 6 3.7%
  • Other East Team

    Votes: 2 1.2%

  • Total voters
    161
  • Poll closed .
Steph is the most impactful player of this era. Used to be "Your best player can't be a PG (historically not true)" or "Jump shooting teams don't win chips".
Now look at this ****. Steph birthed all these *****s. Sidenote: I'm not arguing Steph is better than Magic. Magic the best PG ever and probably gonna stay there.

I never said he wasn't the most impactful player of this era, in fact I said he changed the way basketball is played. His impact on the modern game is undeniable it's just y'all wanna take it too far and elevate him to a place in the all time pantheon that he clearly by any metric hasn't earned yet.
 
no i get that but i mean compare players playing to players playing

and retirees to retirees
bron constantly getting compared to the ghost of chicaco and the shedded snakeskin of los angels lmao
bron, steph, kd are players that transcend their peers so there's that

And it's mattered in the moment as well. Dudes don't want the same banter for Steph that all the other greats had while they were still playing. It's bizarre.
it will always matter in this league
gotta keep the same energy for every player that's good enough that they transcend their peers
bron, steph, kd
bean and timmy when they were here as well
when you are THAT good it gets to a point where that "lets wait until he retires" junk is over lol
 
bron constantly getting compared to the ghost of chicaco and the shedded snakeskin of los angels lmao
bron, steph, kd are players that transcend their peers so there's that

so basically dudes can bag on steph for "not being as good" as magic, but acknowledging that hes good enough youre even asking the question?
 
yes welcome to NBA NT :lol:

welcome

seems kinda silly imo like the convo just never ends then?

as steph keeps playing he'll win and accumulate enough to be better in ppls opinions?

or dont and just fall out the convo entirely?

just because at this moment hes "transcended his peers" so all thats left to compare him to is all time greats?

instead of just appreciating his play in the moment?
 
It’s only the beginning. Better rest those tear ducts for what’s coming :wink:
I’ll be ok trust me. It’s just basketball.

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I remember when the 73-9 Warriors were playing garbage teams in the West during the playoffs and people were comparing Curry to Jordan. Then the Warriors finally played an elite team and Curry laid an egg in the finals and they lost. The Warriors have been playing garbage teams all playoffs. Zero NBA finals MVPs. I sincerely hope Milwaukee or Toronto provides better competition.
 
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MVP MVP I just watched mask Kellerman ask why doesn’t Steph try being the 2nd best player on his team while KD is out during the playoffs. Say Anthony Davis is a better player than Steph, and the only reason why he’d consider Steph being better...is because AD isn’t in the playoffs right now...and a host of other dumb **** thats oddly common outside of NT.

Steph gets discredited plenty. We just gotta preach the gospel on hear so y’all don’t continue to soak up the disinformation loop.
 
Magic
2 more rings
3 more finals MVP
1 more MVP
4x assist leader
6 more all star
7 more 1st all-nba
1 more steals leader
Drew you are better then this.
Give me on player on those LAkers teams aside from Magic responsible for creating shots for his teammates outside of Magic?
Also give me a time where Magic went to the finals with less then 2 other established hall of famers on his teams.
Lets not act like Magic wasnt drafted into a winning situation and culture. He came into the league with the greatest scorer of all time and a team that had won 50 games.

Please stop with these sorry comparisons. Magic is great and so is Steph, but lets not act like Magic changed anything any players due on the court that wasnt done already.
You bring up the fact he led the league in assists all nba teams and as a steal leader but your comparing a 23 team league to a 30 team league.

Also at a time when there were only a handful of stars in the league (and a league that was on the decline). Players like KD Draymond and Klay have to settle for 2nd team all defense.

Different times, stop going back and nitpicking parts to make an argument sound good.

Klay Thompson just made 2nd Team All defense btw :lol:

As did Draymond, somehow Bledsoe and Smart beat Dray and Klay out, how?

This league dont even celebrate 2 way players.

PJ Tucker aint even make the list lol come on man
 
MVP MVP I just watched mask Kellerman ask why doesn’t Steph try being the 2nd best player on his team while KD is out during the playoffs. Say Anthony Davis is a better player than Steph, and the only reason why he’d consider Steph being better...is because AD isn’t in the playoffs right now...and a host of other dumb **** thats oddly common outside of NT.

Steph gets discredited plenty. We just gotta preach the gospel on hear so y’all don’t continue to soak up the disinformation loop.

I didn't even watch First Take today. Steph is a top 5 player in the league and the best PG in the game, why isn't that enough?

Why y'all continue to try and force stuff that ain't true?
 
tim Duncan was and is the greatest pf to play the game.

This is considered because most of his work was done 17 feet and in. Timmy most iconic shot is the bank from 15 feet out not post moves (though he did have them) to leave space for David in the middle.

He is not classified at the 5 usually because of where most his time was spent.

So yes greatest 4 of all time.

Shaq has greatest 5 of this generation down pact.
 
Kobe slander wont be tolerated.

Still want to see another player do what he did with what he didnt have those years he was in a stacked west making the playoffs and giving 1 seeds and 2seeds a run for they money.

Lebron found out this year how hard this was to do.

I have yet to see a player pull off what Kobe did.
 
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