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The saddest part is many of that 47% are Romney supporters. They'll hear this, convince themselves he's talking about 'other people', and their votes won't change.
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"I've said this before and I'll say it again. The biggest dichotomy in today's economy is between capital and labor. And the last 30 years have been a systematic effort to disenfranchise labor and empower capital. And the owners of capital are overwhelmingly, the wealthy, and guys like Romney, who are not only wealthy and own capital, but also manage capital explicitly, for a living. And his own career is Exhibit A of this phenomenon - he's made $250 million by essentially trading cheap foreign labor for expensive domestic labor, breaking unions, robbing pensions, while seeking gov't subsidies to do all of the above.
"And the irony is that many of the institutions that historically protect against this kind of voracious behavior destroyed themselves - union members are clearly not uniformly Democrat. The genius of the Republican Party, as has been said ad infinitum, is to convince people, through the use of social wedge issues, to elect representatives whose stated ideologies were contrary to their economic interests. By convincing people that gay marriage and abortion were more important than protecting union organizing rights, they put the nail in their own coffin, as guys like Romney came in to take advantage of disorganized labor markets.
"But what Romney shows here is so damaging in that it fits all the stereotypes you imagine - he not only has made a living out of exploiting people who work, he holds them in sheer contempt. What must he think of the people who clean his house(s), who mow his lawn(s)? Are they not parasites, victims who aren't fit to do more than scrabble for the spare change he tosses at them as he passes in his car(s)? It wasn't enough that he made a fortune taking middle class jobs; he had to spit on them for their misfortune to be born from not-rich parents as well."
The saddest part is many of that 47% are Romney supporters. They'll hear this, convince themselves he's talking about 'other people', and their votes won't change.
Sorry im late but what ever came about of Ron Paul??
I forget which NTer said it I another thread but these are the "c-class republicans"
Hey don't hate the player, hate the game.
If you don't understand the difference between ownership (Team Owner/Jerry Jones/ CEO/executive level) and worker (athlete/worker), you should only be disgusted with yourself.
Your statement "in which some cases they should be" further reinforces the difference. When it comes to the athlete/worker, there is no "some cases" they should be making millions. The athlete/worker has to be performing to the worth of his salary or he will be out of a job.
So why does he hide his true emotion?In this case you can't hate Mitt Romney for playing the game with his money. Seriously, the hypocrisy is nuts. Frankly, it has nothing to do with Mitt Romney and his money, but more the people who are angry with people who make money and are filthy rich but then turn the other way and say, "Don't hate the player, hate the game". If somebody is winning the game at your disposal, you're gonna hate both, but if you're winning the game, you aren't gonna have the same viewpoint. You may still have good intentions but you're going to have different cares and different understandings of things due to your experiences.Hey don't hate the player, hate the game.
You will NEVER be MY president with an offshore bank account that most of your constituents don't even qualify for.Don't act like none of you guys would be smart with your money and try to pay less taxes. Who the hell doesn't want to pay less taxes? And besides, his paying 13% taxes is waaaaaaaaaaaaay more in terms of what he's actually paying than what I'm paying at 30% or whatever the tax rate is.
In this case you can't hate Mitt Romney for playing the game with his money. Seriously, the hypocrisy is nuts. Frankly, it has nothing to do with Mitt Romney and his money, but more the people who are angry with people who make money and are filthy rich but then turn the other way and say, "Don't hate the player, hate the game" to some guy making a few bucks off a video. If somebody is winning the game at your disposal, you're gonna hate both, but if you don't have a horse in the race, you'll care less about how others make their money.
Don't act like none of you guys would be smart with your money and try to pay less taxes. Who the hell doesn't want to pay less taxes? And besides, his paying 13% taxes is waaaaaaaaaaaaay more in terms of what he's actually paying than what I'm paying at 30% or whatever the tax rate is.
And I don't fully agree with this either. Maybe athletes were a bad example to explain my point. I'm saying people don't give a **** about Apple being so successful and so rich. Like Steve Jobs wasn't making milllllions and Tim Cook isn't doing the same, but people line up to give'em their money in droves. We never hear about how they're too rich or what their tax rates are or what they do with their money. It wouldn't surprise me for folks to criticize Romney or some other successful entrepreneur but turn around and go buy an iPhone or iPad and rave about how Apple is the best company and how Steve Jobs was a god.
As far as performance based pay, not every CEO was gifted the position and many had to take risks that could have cost them their jobs. If a company fails, does the CEO always get a write off and ride off into the sunset with millions? Not always. Yes, there is disparity, but rich people are not always rich just because everything was handed to them and they did nothing to earn it or maintain it.
I'm just trying to point out the hypocrisy of all this talk about wealth. I'm not trying to attack anybody's belief system or system of values. It just drives me crazy when we only focus on a few people when there are many other offenders but we don't talk about them because they seem to benefit us directly with fancy gadgets or highlight reel plays.
Bottom line... Apple CEO isn't running for President. Athletes aren't running for President. Mitt Romney is running for President so our focus is on him.
And who the hell doesn't want to pay less taxes? The answer is simple..
ALL OF US!
HOWEVER, if you're going to run for President of the US, it's not a good look when you made 21 million dollars from investments and some of that income are from foreign investments where he paid foreign taxes and using those foreign taxes paid as a credit against his US taxes. It's a great tax strategy for the wealthy whom can place millions in foreign accounts and reap the tax benefits. So a guy whom used the US tax loopholes created for the wealthy wants to be the President of the US and then complains about the poor taking advantage of the broke US Govt? The govt is broke because wealthy individuals like Romney took FULL advantage of Bush era tax cuts to pay as little taxes as they possibly can.
That's is why the govt is broke? Because the wealthy took advantage of their tax cuts? If they didn't we wouldn't be in this problem??Bottom line... Apple CEO isn't running for President. Athletes aren't running for President. Mitt Romney is running for President so our focus is on him.
And who the hell doesn't want to pay less taxes? The answer is simple..
ALL OF US!
HOWEVER, if you're going to run for President of the US, it's not a good look when you made 21 million dollars from investments and some of that income are from foreign investments where he paid foreign taxes and using those foreign taxes paid as a credit against his US taxes. It's a great tax strategy for the wealthy whom can place millions in foreign accounts and reap the tax benefits. So a guy whom used the US tax loopholes created for the wealthy wants to be the President of the US and then complains about the poor taking advantage of the broke US Govt? The govt is broke because wealthy individuals like Romney took FULL advantage of Bush era tax cuts to pay as little taxes as they possibly can.
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[h1]Romney's Leaked Speech Was Hosted By Private Equity Guy Known For Erotic Pool Parties[/h1]
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This is a shot of Leder's Boca home.
The leaked Mitt Romney fundraiser video took place in the home of private equity executive Marc J. Leder, the co-CEO of Boca Raton, Florida-based Sun Capital Partners, Mother Jones' David Corn, who surfaced the video, reports.
The fundraiser where Romney's comments about 47% of America seeing themselves as "victims" happened in May at Leder's Boca home. There were 150 guests in attendance who paid $50,000 a plate to attend, according to Mother Jones report, which points to an article in the TC Palm.
Leder has a reputation for throwing absolutely extravagant parties, which have been detailed in Page Six columns.
For example, at the end of the summer in 2011, Leder threw a bash at his Hampton's home where guests skinny dipped in the pool and performed sex acts, while scantily clad women danced on platforms, Page Six reported in a piece called "Nude frolic in a tycoon's pool."
Then to ring in the 2012 New Year, Leder hosted a series of parties called "Event Week 2011/2012" at his St. Bart's home, Page Six reported. During that party extravaganza, hip-hop music mogul Russell Simmons Tweeted that he was at one of those parties sitting next to fashion stylist Rachel Zoe calling the party "out of control."
In an interview with the New York Times earlier this year, Leder, who has been called "private-equity party boy" by The Post, brushed off that characterization of him.
From the New York Times: (emphasis ours)
"I think the portrayal of me as having wild and crazy parties is absolutely incorrect,” Mr. Leder said during a wide-ranging interview in Sun Capital’s offices in Midtown Manhattan. “I spend a small percentage throwing some parties, attending some parties. I like music. I like to dance. But rather than reporting on how I spend 340 days and nights of my year, the media likes to report on the other 25."
As for his career in finance, Leder has been doing leveraged buyouts and investment banking for more than 25 years. Before founding Sun Capital in 1995, he worked as a senior vice president at Lehman Brothers, according to his bio.
According to the New York Times, Leder got into private equity after visiting Romney's Bain Capital. What's more is Romney invested in a few of Leder's early deals, the report said.
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That's is why the govt is broke? Because the wealthy took advantage of their tax cuts? If they didn't we wouldn't be in this problem??
You're seriously misguided if you think thats the problem.
Peep game though.Mediocre response. He's just not eloquent enough to spin that positively.