Michael Jackson and his affinity towards children...Mature Discussion PLEASE...

Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein

i dont get how its weird ... because he slept with children in his room?
like I said would YOU let your child sleep in the same bed as a 44 year old man?
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

*Exits thread after OP gets exactly what he wanted*
Bro...I didn't intend it that way at all. I'm serious.

It's a portion of his life that merits discussion.

I put a disclaimer at the top of the thread because of the sensitive nature of the topic. I feel like this was not the right topic to be placed in the RIPthread. People are taking his death really hard. I can respect that. However, this is a time in his life where there are a lot of questions and why notdiscuss it? If it's too hard to do, then skip this thread.
 
Originally Posted by Q46totheE

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Making a thread about this is like making a thread about Kobe's Rape charges, or OJ's murder trial. All it can do is divide. The matter of fact is dude was acquitted on all charges over ALL of his cases. Mike was too good for this cruel world anyway, and deserved better. Innocence destroyed. Michael didn't abuse anyone, We abused him.
I understand where you're coming from, but even after MJ settled out of court, he STILL was having kids in his bedroom. You're saying that his innocence was destroyed and we abused him like it is US who view things odd that he did when in actuality it was the "norm."

Also, no matter what you discuss about Kobe or OJ, they will still have the rape/murder tied to them for the rest of their lives. It's not something that can be forgotten.


You serious? Kobe got more endorsements and love in LA than the terminator?

It was US meaning the world that I am myself apart of, that abused michael. Turned our back on him when he wasn't making hits, and branding him weird. Dudewas sick, mentally AND physically. You call a person with cancer weird? This board disgusts me sometimes. Behavior like his shouldn't be looked down upon,dude has a point. All he wanted growing up with his Fathers love and affection, he tells of how while on tour all he wanted to do was sleep with his father atnight. You know how many times I slept with my dad when I was feeling down?....It IS natural. All mike wanted was to lay in bed with his father, but his dadwould be like get no you not my son , you are michael jackson. CRAZY, his DAD was NUTS. Why don't people see that, everyone had tough dads, his was Crazy.
 
Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein

i dont get how its weird ... because he slept with children in his room?
like I said would YOU let your child sleep in the same bed as a 44 year old man?


After the case, he never did it again. Proving that he didn't think it was wrong until society told him so.

To answer the question no I wouldn't but what does that have to do with this distinct situation?
 
I don't think he did anything, I think Michael was just trying to re-live the childhood he never had.
 
Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein

in my opinion he never did anything to those kids except love them in a way society deems "weird" ...

That's what i think. His mind just never really grew up. What society deemed inappropriate b/w him and those children would be viewed as normal if he was12. Dude was like chunk from the goonies basically. Shame on those parents for taking advantage of him though.
 
I give props to OP for making this thread and it starting off in a serious manner. There's no need to lock this up OP's question is very valid, andthose who want to lock this thread up are saying so because either their still in grieving for MJ, or they don't want to think of the fact that MJ has beento court numerous times over said facts about MJ and kids.

Do I personally think MJ has done some innappropriate things with kids? Absolutely

Do I think all the cases against MJ about said relationship with kids is true? No.
 
i wouldnt let my kids sleep with him because i would let my kids sleep with me ... he was providing what he never had to kids to make sure they had what hedidnt ...
 
Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein

i wouldnt let my kids sleep with him because i would let my kids sleep with me ... he was providing what he never had to kids to make sure they had what he didnt ...
And while a lot of the blame has to fall on Jackson, IMO MORE of the blame has to fall on the shoulders of those parents. They put their kids ina terrible situation, and whatever happened behind those closed doors (innocent or not) will stay with them for the rest of their lives. The fact that whathappened IS unknown makes it hard for me to give Mike the benefit of the doubt. It wasn't normal, and as much as I want to use his childhood as an excusefor his actions, there is no rationale for his explanation or even having those kids there in the first place. We're not the odd ones for viewing him inthis light. He put ALL of this on himself. He should know the difference in this situation between right and wrong.
 
"Denial is the first step to acceptance."
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It's ridiculous that people can try so hard to ignore this type of%%#% because he was the "King of Pop"

Get the *%%$ outta here...this whole thing was some ILL %%#%. Point blank.
 
Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

Man any logical person would think something sexual happened. Forget the fact that its Michael Jackson, would this be accepted? Would YOU let you pre-teen son or daughter sleep in bed with a 44 year old man? Regardless of whether or not something happened, that is weird as hell. I do think some funny stuff happened, but a little part of me believes that maybe something may not have happened, just based off one of his reactions in the video....He got real flustered like NOOOO you guys are taking it the wrong way...and he had this look in his eyes, like listen to what I'm saying....I dunno


Same here.


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It's ridiculous that people can try so hard to ignore this type of %%#% because he was the "King of Pop"

Get the *%%$ outta here...this whole thing was some ILL %%#%. Point blank.



I agree with this also.
 
Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein

in my opinion he never did anything to those kids except love them in a way society deems "weird" ...
[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]He was a loving man fro what i seen, i could be a little niave and biased but everyonecould tell that MJ wasn't all there in a sense, his mind seemed to be young to me. Maybe he just wanted to treat kids the way he always wanted to betreated? Lets be real, his sexuality was questioned[/color]
 
Originally Posted by ninjahood

mike wasn't bleachin his skin, he had a disorder

[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]He had a disorder yes, but i think he helped to speed the process up[/color]
 
im sorry u dont settle out of court for that much money solely off "accusations"

his rep was already ruined so dont even say he was trying to protect that

if mike was the construction worker next door instead of the king of pop he would have at least done some time

i swear society really needs to reevaluate how we give a person's celebrity total immunity
 
Originally Posted by jawn piece

im sorry u dont settle out of court for that much money solely off "accusations"

his rep was already ruined so dont even say he was trying to protect that

if mike was the construction worker next door instead of the king of pop he would have at least done some time

i swear society really needs to reevaluate how we give a person's celebrity total immunity
And I'm no lawyer, nor do I know how the legal system really works but if the allegations weren't true, couldn't Mike have sued fordefamation of character?
 
Yes Michael's behavior was odd, but I don't think he had any malicious intent when it came to any of his "relationships" with children.

This odd behavior... coupled with a few instances where people were trying to make a quick dollar by bringing on allegations... gave the perception that he wasa child molester.

Now I don't know the truth, but that is my POV.
 
This is the part that is wrong with society. The fact that such a person could make an mistake.
No one on this earth is perfect. And the fact to some people just want to turn their heads on this topic is
just disgusting....face it. The sleeping with kids issue crosses the line for an 44 year old man....
Now Im not saying Mike did anything. But when society feels for such an person so much that they are willing
to turn their heads to anything that may oppose to their image. It opens the door for very dangerous things to happen.
Just look at the whole Catholic Priest situations. Many Childern where abused cause people wanted to turn their heads or not investigate
such an situation....
 
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aint no way was his actions appropriate

and I believe Mike Touched them kids, the parents of the kids shouldheld just as responsible for enabling this to happen.

There is NOTHING normal about sleeping with kids. NOTHING.

when your kids wanna sleep in ur bed, tell them NO. I do.

thats how u teach them rigth from wrong. U dont show love by sleeping with your kids.

Im almost afraid to ask what kinda childhoods some of yall had.

I have a cousin who was molested when she was younger , by my aunt's boyfriend and the excuses My aunt came up with hurt my heart

I dont even speak to her anymore, I dont have anything good to say to her

I cannot condone Mike's actions with the children at all
 
Originally Posted by Q46totheE

Originally Posted by jawn piece

im sorry u dont settle out of court for that much money solely off "accusations"

his rep was already ruined so dont even say he was trying to protect that

if mike was the construction worker next door instead of the king of pop he would have at least done some time

i swear society really needs to reevaluate how we give a person's celebrity total immunity
And I'm no lawyer, nor do I know how the legal system really works but if the allegations weren't true, couldn't Mike have sued for defamation of character?

Yeah, he more than likely just wanted to move on. And as a parent, if your child was molested you don't settle, period.
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

when your kids wanna sleep in ur bed, tell them NO. I do.

thats how u teach them rigth from wrong. U dont show love by sleeping with your kids.

There's something wrong with a parent sleeping with their own child?

I dunno, I disagree with you there.

I don't know what to think about Mike. Dude seemed like he was genuine, but he also didn't seem to be all there. Who knows what happened.
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

Making a thread about this is like making a thread about Kobe's Rape charges, or OJ's murder trial. All it can do is divide. The matter of fact is dude was acquitted on all charges over ALL of his cases. Mike was too good for this cruel world anyway, and deserved better. Innocence destroyed. Michael didn't abuse anyone, We abused him.
Well said
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

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aint no way was his actions appropriate

and I believe Mike Touched them kids, the parents of the kids shouldheld just as responsible for enabling this to happen.

There is NOTHING normal about sleeping with kids. NOTHING.

when your kids wanna sleep in ur bed, tell them NO. I do.

thats how u teach them rigth from wrong. U dont show love by sleeping with your kids.

Im almost afraid to ask what kinda childhoods some of yall had.

I have a cousin who was molested when she was younger , by my aunt's boyfriend and the excuses My aunt came up with hurt my heart

I dont even speak to her anymore, I dont have anything good to say to her

I cannot condone Mike's actions with the children at all
I have never been abused before but people need to consider what that type of stuff does to children and then they will
see that this topic atleast an decent look.
This reminds me of the Boondocks R.Kelly episode.
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