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Originally Posted by copped
reading is fundamental...I SAID WE...as in us...not micheal jackson..im sure he had many initiatives for everything i mentioned...i mentioned WE...read before you talk...Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43
how many foundations have you started for Health Care, poverty, AIDS, and education?Originally Posted by copped
if only we were this passionate about important things like health care..poverty...aids...our education...
if every time we heard that a teenager was shot and killed over drugs...and there was a 110 + page thread on the internet within 24 hrs...
we would be living in a different world...
the man whose life we are celebrating actually DID something about those issues, and didn't just whine on the internet like a pissy little bicth...
i think its entirely appropriate what i said...its a good reflection on american culture..where the importance of some things out weigh others...
once again i said if WE were as passionate about other things in this society as we are about one man dying... we would be in a different world...
now sit down kid.
Originally Posted by BeatJunkie5
The sample for PYT in Kanye's the Good Life isOriginally Posted by ErickM713
I barely noticed alot of Houston rappers sampled him....Trae sample The Lady In My Life in Swang
lol I'm not saying I just discovered it...i'm just saying the sample is crazy good...I've heard that song millions of times(honestly..millions of times...) and I never imagined chopping it up the way 'Ye did...but anywho, plenty of artists have sampled MJ and the Jackson 5man...Dilla did a nice one with the Jackson 5's All I do is Think of YouOriginally Posted by Crank Lucas
Originally Posted by BeatJunkie5
The sample for PYT in Kanye's the Good Life isOriginally Posted by ErickM713
I barely noticed alot of Houston rappers sampled him....Trae sample The Lady In My Life in Swang
you cant be serious right now
Originally Posted by SuperAntigen
As if...not only did he misconstrue what I stated, but he polarized it (negatively) simply because my post wasn't the standard-- OMG MJ you're great, you will be missed, RIP--crap...word to "your reply is nonsense"...I was serious when I said "Not to be the mean-callous-and-austere-fellow..." but you still took me as such and interpreted my post as such.
Furthermore, it's good to know that he donated to all those charities--a lil fact I already knew about, but thank you for affirming it nonetheless--but surely, you don't mean to imply that in doing so, he lived a life that was "humble" in the least bit...surely that is not what you're trying to suggest. Because it is a well known fact that Michael Jackson indulged in the luxuries of life.
Even so, I merely brought that up to highlight the fact that, this is a man who LIVED a life only a few can dream off, and a life even fewer can experience. So why lament for a man who LIVED this good of a life, as though death robbed him of some "great--yet--to--be--experienced--privilege".
Of course, the most appropriate reason for lamenting for him is, as you put it, rhetorically: "Just because death is apart of life, does that mean humans are not allowed to mourn the death of another...", which is a completely valid point.
But noticing that this would most likely be the "answer" to why "we" should mourn MJ, I thought it would only be fair to bring in the "millions of people [that] die everyday after "living" lives that can be appropriately described as "meaningless" relative to that lived by MJ..."...how come we don't mourn their deaths? Why isn't general forum filled with 100+ page threads for all these people who are dying from starvation, murder, diseases...? I mean, you stated yourself that as humans, we're allowed to mourn the deaths of others so how come right now, we're mourning MJ dying of heart failure (possibly caused from an OD on prescription pills) and yet, we don't mourn the deaths of those who lacked so much relative to the luxury of MJ.
I'll tell you why...
the world will only acknowledge certain deaths because we, knowingly or unknowingly, rank/value certain lives above others. I guess they lied when they said we were all created equal huh...
but surely, you don't mean to imply that in doing so, he lived a life that was "humble" in the least bit...surely that is not what you're trying to suggest. Because it is a well known fact that Michael Jackson indulged in the luxuries of life.
who said that? no one. what I said was that for someone to be talking about how much Michael Jackson DIDN'T do, he surely did MORE than you could EVERhave done or would probably do. His humanitarian efforts are known worldwide. If you don't know, a quick Google search can inform you (what I didearlier.)
Even so, I merely brought that up to highlight the fact that, this is a man who LIVED a life only a few can dream off, and a life even fewer can experience. So why lament for a man who LIVED this good of a life, as though death robbed him of some "great--yet--to--be--experienced--privilege".
who is doing that? this thread is simply to mourn the death of a man who touched the lives of MANY. That much simply cannot be refuted.
But noticing that this would most likely be the "answer" to why "we" should mourn MJ, I thought it would only be fair to bring in the "millions of people [that] die everyday after "living" lives that can be appropriately described as "meaningless" relative to that lived by MJ..."...how come we don't mourn their deaths? Why isn't general forum filled with 100+ page threads for all these people who are dying from starvation, murder, diseases...? I mean, you stated yourself that as humans, we're allowed to mourn the deaths of others so how come right now, we're mourning MJ dying of heart failure (possibly caused from an OD on prescription pills) and yet, we don't mourn the deaths of those who lacked so much relative to the luxury of MJ.
I'll tell you why...
the world will only acknowledge certain deaths because we, knowingly or unknowingly, rank/value certain lives above others. I guess they lied when they said we were all created equal huh...
This is the point I was trying to make which completely flew over your head. My previous post was NOT a shot a MJ. It was rather, a shot at "us"...for percieving other lives to be more valuable than others. All the evidence you need is in this thread.
I'm sorry sir, how often do you check the Niketalk General forum? Because to make such a statement, surely you're not here often.
Many times folks that frequent the General forum make threads regarding their parents or grandparents or other family members. I've seen plenty of suchthreads and anyone who frequents Niketalk General forum has likely seen plenty of such threads.
My mother died in 1997, someone who is much closer to me than Michael Jackson will ever be, but to say that my motherhas had more of a impact on the ENTIRE WORLD than what Michael Jackson has had would be ABSURD and an insult to anyone who frequents this board.
Many on this board know Michael Jackson and have been influenced by his works but hardly anyone has been influenced by the works of my mother or any of themillions of people who die every year by whatever. To bring them up in a thread that has nothing to do with them and has all to do with Michael Jackson is,not necessary and slightly disrespectful.
If you want to start a thread "100,000 people died today" then you are certainly welcome. I will even reply to it. But in the words of Mekhi Phiferin "Paid in Full" "_s get shot everyday b" as you so eloquently tried to explain it.
One of my favorite MJ (Jackson 5) joints everOriginally Posted by sickickz23
my brother sent me this on youtube.
"I remember watching this when I was a kid"�
What talent. In the 60's 70's, often live music peformance are lip synced.�This is lil Mikes actual live vocals. Crazy!
Originally Posted by Mister916
Even though i followed this from the start i still can't believe.