Mac Miller: Yes or no?

Originally Posted by AyoDun

Originally Posted by illphillip

Originally Posted by DIOR PAINT


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If when Jay Z had first come out, I had told you he would be the biggest rapper in the world, you would have had that same response....
1980's Jay > mac miller and it's not even close
RD Jay > mac miller and it shouldn't even be mentioned

Hindsight is 20/20. 
My point stands. 
 
lmao at these dumb music critics.


anyone who compares wack miller to jay z should be slapped.
 
hes good in my books

he has that feel-good music, anyone who makes a song and at the end of it..got me feeling good, am definitely hearing/afanof.



lyrically he's meh, he mosdef aint no jay or kanye, but like i said before he is a feel-good artist, you feel like you can relate to the kid and he seems chill, none of that over the hill type shet like wale.


like someone said before hes a mike poshner type artist, just making feel good songs, nothing lyrically heavy, hes a artist he aint no rapper
 
Originally Posted by LUKEwarm Skywalker

Originally Posted by JD214

Originally Posted by sam206

Lol, Jay Z is not even on Kanye's level




lol What?
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Not sure if serious my dude.
Fact: Jay-Z NEEDS Kanye West.
Fact #2: The above statement is not true when read backwards. Kanye DOES NOT NEED Jay-Z.

...

but we talking talent, not relevance.
 
Originally Posted by lildisciple111

but seriously anyone really comparing the mac to jay z aka the greatest rapper alive is on something

the greatest rapper alive is the basedgod though....lil b > kanye, jay-z, mac miller, every other rapper right now
 
Originally Posted by il prescelto

Originally Posted by lildisciple111

but seriously anyone really comparing the mac to jay z aka the greatest rapper alive is on something

the greatest rapper alive is the basedgod though....lil b > kanye, jay-z, mac miller, every other rapper right now


qft
 
I checked mac miller when he first came out with that Nike song, off the bat, dude's mega corny

Trust me, I've tried to give him a chance, but i can't rock with him and his music
 
I thought Pitchfork did a pretty decent review of his album while touching on some issues facing rap.
http://pitchfork.com/revi...ms/16113-blue-side-park/

At the 2000 VMAs, Eminem's performance of "The Real Slim Shady" featured him walking across Sixth Avenue in Manhattan and into Radio City Music Hall followed by a few hundred extras that had been styled in his image, bleached hair and all. The performance was an arresting, and very literal, visual representation of the song's claim of there being "a million of us just like me." Pittsburgh rapper Mac Miller is having his "'The Real Slim Shady' at the VMAS" moment right now, even if he'll never actually perform there. There are hundreds of thousands of listeners trailing him intensely-- Blue Slide Park sold just about 145,000 copes in its first week in stores, making it the first independently distributed debut album to go No. 1 in 16 years. And the reason Miller's mass of fans follow him is not because of his music, at least not completely. It's because he looks just like them, because they can see themselves up on the stage behind him, if not next to him.

It's a presumptive conclusion, but it's hard to find much, if anything, in Miller's music that suggests otherwise. He is an outsider, but he brings no outsider's perspective to his music. Forget Eminem, Miller's point of view is less unique than Asher Roth's or Childish Gambino's. He lusts after fame, money, and women, and he smokes weed and parties. Obviously, there's nothing wrong with that; it is rap music, of course. But it does raise the question of why Miller is so popular, because despite his claim of being a cross between John Lennon and UGK, he's mostly just a crushingly bland, more intolerable version of Wiz Khalifa without the chops, desire, or pocketbook for enjoyable singles. Unless you buy into Miller's persona-- and why would you?-- Blue Slide Park offers you nothing that you can't find done more much artfully by, say, Curren$y.

This is, in a way, rap music's fault. Mac Miller has been called "frat rap," and while there's a slight truth to that, the term leaves unacknowledged the fact that frat guys used to engage with the rap world writ large. That interaction may have involved an unhealthy appreciation for Jurassic 5, but it also involved rocking YoungbloodZ and Ying Yang Twins songs at parties. The pop world has left rap behind, save four or five rappers, and it's opened a door for someone like Mac Miller to seize the college-aged, white-male fanbase. If that fanbase is interacting less with rap music, then maybe they've rallied around Miller because he also barely engages with the wider rap world. Consider the fact that Blue Slide Park has not one feature-- not a guest verse or chorus. For a contemporary rap album, let alone a No. 1 rap album, that is basically unheard-of. Before you consider that to be a noble pursuit, the album could've used somebody, anybody, to break up the monotony of Miller on the mic.

Miller's world is a hermetic one, and unless it's one you inhabit, the album holds no appeal. It's a normal rap album, sure, but as listeners we should strive for more than a no-stakes work by a guy wearing the same streetwear brands and snapbacks as everyone else, who has merely found a niche and exploited it. Miller's hustle can't be knocked, and it shouldn't be, but his art is 144,487 times less remarkable than his first week sales numbers would have you believe. His success is not a mirage, no. But it is a projection.
 
That review is extremely dead on.

Not completely familiar with this guy but he is filling a niche many white rappers before him have.

With the internet and social media in full swing this guys is just doing it on a much larger lever due to exposure.
 
Mac Miller is %$%+@+# trash. One of the worst rappers out right now, and I'm not saying that in exaggeration.
 
Originally Posted by spacerace

Originally Posted by AyoDun

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PS DUDE IS GARBAGE, LISTEN TO SOME REAL HIP HOP!
you can only listen to illmatic and reasonable doubt so many times...
Haven't listened to either in a really long time. There are a ton of great artists out there who are new and miles better then mac miller.
 
He's whack, I can't help but feel he has a Jewish family member in the music industry that put him on. He's obviously an industry plant.
 
Originally Posted by DwyaneWadeOG

I thought Pitchfork did a pretty decent review of his album while touching on some issues facing rap.
http://pitchfork.com/revi...ms/16113-blue-side-park/

At the 2000 VMAs, Eminem's performance of "The Real Slim Shady" featured him walking across Sixth Avenue in Manhattan and into Radio City Music Hall followed by a few hundred extras that had been styled in his image, bleached hair and all. The performance was an arresting, and very literal, visual representation of the song's claim of there being "a million of us just like me." Pittsburgh rapper Mac Miller is having his "'The Real Slim Shady' at the VMAS" moment right now, even if he'll never actually perform there. There are hundreds of thousands of listeners trailing him intensely-- Blue Slide Park sold just about 145,000 copes in its first week in stores, making it the first independently distributed debut album to go No. 1 in 16 years. And the reason Miller's mass of fans follow him is not because of his music, at least not completely. It's because he looks just like them, because they can see themselves up on the stage behind him, if not next to him.

It's a presumptive conclusion, but it's hard to find much, if anything, in Miller's music that suggests otherwise. He is an outsider, but he brings no outsider's perspective to his music. Forget Eminem, Miller's point of view is less unique than Asher Roth's or Childish Gambino's. He lusts after fame, money, and women, and he smokes weed and parties. Obviously, there's nothing wrong with that; it is rap music, of course. But it does raise the question of why Miller is so popular, because despite his claim of being a cross between John Lennon and UGK, he's mostly just a crushingly bland, more intolerable version of Wiz Khalifa without the chops, desire, or pocketbook for enjoyable singles. Unless you buy into Miller's persona-- and why would you?-- Blue Slide Park offers you nothing that you can't find done more much artfully by, say, Curren$y.

This is, in a way, rap music's fault. Mac Miller has been called "frat rap," and while there's a slight truth to that, the term leaves unacknowledged the fact that frat guys used to engage with the rap world writ large. That interaction may have involved an unhealthy appreciation for Jurassic 5, but it also involved rocking YoungbloodZ and Ying Yang Twins songs at parties. The pop world has left rap behind, save four or five rappers, and it's opened a door for someone like Mac Miller to seize the college-aged, white-male fanbase. If that fanbase is interacting less with rap music, then maybe they've rallied around Miller because he also barely engages with the wider rap world. Consider the fact that Blue Slide Park has not one feature-- not a guest verse or chorus. For a contemporary rap album, let alone a No. 1 rap album, that is basically unheard-of. Before you consider that to be a noble pursuit, the album could've used somebody, anybody, to break up the monotony of Miller on the mic.

Miller's world is a hermetic one, and unless it's one you inhabit, the album holds no appeal. It's a normal rap album, sure, but as listeners we should strive for more than a no-stakes work by a guy wearing the same streetwear brands and snapbacks as everyone else, who has merely found a niche and exploited it. Miller's hustle can't be knocked, and it shouldn't be, but his art is 144,487 times less remarkable than his first week sales numbers would have you believe. His success is not a mirage, no. But it is a projection.
Im not familiar with pitchfork, but that review is super, dumb, crazy biased and reads like a speech out of Chappelle's Haters Ball skit.
Someone over there is salty. 

Let the young man get his money. That review is more of a personal attack than it is a music review.
 
Honestly if I want to listen to party rap about smoking and drinking I will put the ipod on Mac Dre or Devin!
 
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