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that's not what I'm confused about. I'm confused about whether the purpose of Jacob bringing people to the island was to recruit players for his game with smokie, or to find a replacement for himselfOriginally Posted by Bastitch
Originally Posted by Crook
Yeah I've been extremely confused about that too...which one is it then? jacob bringing people to the island to prove his theory of the game, or bringing them here to find a candidate for him? To me it seems like the most recent batch (oceanic 815) was for replacement candidates, whereas in the past it was to use people to play the game with smokey Mc smoke.Originally Posted by DubA169
Originally Posted by hymen man
*waits for Dub to chime in*
the whole jacob/numbers/bring people to the island stuff is very inconsistent.
I went from believing it was a game being played about free will and the nature of man to just Jacob needing to protect light from the bad guy. why was Jacob bringing all the thousands of other people to the island? He just needed one guy with daddy issues and nothing to live for to protect the island. How does he even bring people to the island? what is the island?
I don't know what's so confusing about this.
Jack made a CHOICE to be the one. Jacob can bring all the people in the world to do it, but I thought they made it clear that Jack CHOSE to be the one, and they emphasize it by having Hurley mention that he WOULDN'T do it.
that's not what I'm confused about. I'm confused about whether the purpose of Jacob bringing people to the island was to recruit players for his game with smokie, or to find a replacement for himselfOriginally Posted by Bastitch
Originally Posted by Crook
Yeah I've been extremely confused about that too...which one is it then? jacob bringing people to the island to prove his theory of the game, or bringing them here to find a candidate for him? To me it seems like the most recent batch (oceanic 815) was for replacement candidates, whereas in the past it was to use people to play the game with smokey Mc smoke.Originally Posted by DubA169
Originally Posted by hymen man
*waits for Dub to chime in*
the whole jacob/numbers/bring people to the island stuff is very inconsistent.
I went from believing it was a game being played about free will and the nature of man to just Jacob needing to protect light from the bad guy. why was Jacob bringing all the thousands of other people to the island? He just needed one guy with daddy issues and nothing to live for to protect the island. How does he even bring people to the island? what is the island?
I don't know what's so confusing about this.
Jack made a CHOICE to be the one. Jacob can bring all the people in the world to do it, but I thought they made it clear that Jack CHOSE to be the one, and they emphasize it by having Hurley mention that he WOULDN'T do it.
That reminds me of way back when Shannon was having an asthma attack and there was no medicine. Jack had to make her believe that she would be fine, and then she was. Yea there's some science behind it, but there's a method behind most beliefs.Originally Posted by Much Respected
It's about believing. Jacob believed he wouldn't age or that he could hurt his brother so he couldn't do either. Rose believed her cancer was gone so it was gone, etc.
SunDOOBIE wrote:
Donkey Wheel - Why does turning the donkey wheel move the island? Why does it go back and forth thru time? Who finished the donkey wheel since MIB was knocked out before completing it? Why does it transport the person turning the wheel to Tunisia? (Is Island Magic the answer to all this?)
Why/how did the island heal Rose's cancer? Locke's paralysis? Why can't women have children on the island? (Island magic again?)
holy eff that would make me ridiculously angry if "magic" was the answer to it all
Originally Posted by whywesteppin
My guess for how it will play out is this: the catastrophe talked about in the Valenzetti equation refers to the smoke monster escaping the island. Somehow he will be stopped and destroyed. There will be a demonstration of free will and the ability to change one's fate. We will see this in the alternate timeline. Everyone lives happily ever after. Final scene is all the Losties at the concert together. We get a slow-mo shot of each of them as they smile and/or cry as soft music plays in the background. They splice in some flashbacks to good memories from the island. Every Lost fan watching is sobbing uncontrollably. They end but instead of flashing up "LOST" they flash up "FOUND."
If anyone is still reading this... this is the last week of getting to do this so I'm gonna write out every thought that crosses my mind.
Jacob & MIB killed thousands of ppl; Jacob weeding out o candidates and useless ppl while MIB killed anyone he couldn't manipulate.Originally Posted by DubA169
so Jacob killed thousands of people just in case MIB killed him one day? seriously?Originally Posted by Master Zik
Why can't it be that every time Jacob brought a group of ppl to the island he had a few ppl in that group as potential candidates just in case MIB succeeded in killing him before now?
The way Jacob and MIB talked about it they've been doing this for quite some time and for Jacob it hasn't ended because he didn't die yet. Looking back on it the Others were just glorified pawns to stall and preoccupy MIB.
what game were they playing before MIB tried to kill Jacob for the first time? he looked shocked that MIB would ever try to kill him, so he obviously wasn't preparing to find a candidate.
Originally Posted by whywesteppin
On another note, anyone notice how positive everything seems to be in the alternate timeline? True, people still have their issues, but I wouldn't say the Losties NEED the island in that timeline. So it begs the question: were they unhappy in the original timeline because Jacob manipulated their existence? Or are they happy in the alternate timeline because deep down they took away something positive from the island?
My guess for how it will play out is this: the catastrophe talked about in the Valenzetti equation refers to the smoke monster escaping the island. Somehow he will be stopped and destroyed. There will be a demonstration of free will and the ability to change one's fate. We will see this in the alternate timeline. Everyone lives happily ever after. Final scene is all the Losties at the concert together. We get a slow-mo shot of each of them as they smile and/or cry as soft music plays in the background. They splice in some flashbacks to good memories from the island. Every Lost fan watching is sobbing uncontrollably. They end but instead of flashing up "LOST" they flash up "FOUND."
If anyone is still reading this... this is the last week of getting to do this so I'm gonna write out every thought that crosses my mind.
Originally Posted by certified hustler11
^ Magic isn't the answer. It's faith/belief!
Jacob's mother chanting and the drinking of the wine was a hoax. She had to do something like that for Jacob to BELIEVE that he was getting her powers. That's how the island works. That's why Jack couldn't accept his role as the island's protector until he believed in it. Same as how Hurley got the Dharma van to work.