Lil Herb > Chief Keef

[trynafeelmink]

What I mean is, when they rap are they talking to their homies on Oblock 600/Lamron/whatever? Or are they talking to the whole world? They're gonna have to decide at some point

This drill music basically started out (and still very much is) a gang thing. When I listen to Back From the Dead, I can tell its on some gang ishh but what makes it work is that Keef stuck to that one theme. That's what I thought Free Crack and Fazoland were gonna be (except much better flow/lyrics wise), based on the songs they'd been doing Herb and Bibby were killing that type of music.

Instead what I heard was a mix of Chicago drill type songs, vs songs that had more mass appeal or maybe belonged on a different project. Almost like they were too 'good' or too technical to be on a drill mixtape.

It's obvious that Herb and Bibby are on another level from the rest of these Chicago dudes. Herb especially could have that Meek Mill type crossover appeal. Imo they should have dropped these mixtapes purely for the streets, then focused on rising beyond that moving forward. That's why I said they needed someone advising them, tell them just stick to that Keef/Gucci formula of giving the streets what they want on the mixtapes, then showcase your other abilities on industry features and future projects. It seemed like they were trying to be too diverse and crammed too many concepts into one project.

I see what your saying much more clearly now, but the only problem with doing that is that Drill doesn't necessarily give them opps to really show off their talents.. so with the hype the have surrounding them it may be dangerous for their careers to do just straight up Drill **** in fear of getting typecasted into that scene where GBE is prettty much dominating. IMO they don't do those Drill songs as well as Keef or Durk so just doing that style would have made them seem like biters/ inferior.

I think both of them can do real street music and talk to their hood while also having a more diverse sound to do it but your correct in the idea that maybe they need someone to produce or exec produce a whole album for them.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Herb and Bibby are making some new gangsta rap. These dudes are actually RAPPING and not just recycling the same beats and mumbling over 'em like Chief Keef.

 

[dt43]

What I mean is, when they rap are they talking to their homies on Oblock 600/Lamron/whatever? Or are they talking to the whole world? They're gonna have to decide at some point

This drill music basically started out (and still very much is) a gang thing. When I listen to Back From the Dead, I can tell its on some gang ishh but what makes it work is that Keef stuck to that one theme. That's what I thought Free Crack and Fazoland were gonna be (except much better flow/lyrics wise), based on the songs they'd been doing Herb and Bibby were killing that type of music.

Instead what I heard was a mix of Chicago drill type songs, vs songs that had more mass appeal or maybe belonged on a different project. Almost like they were too 'good' or too technical to be on a drill mixtape.

It's obvious that Herb and Bibby are on another level from the rest of these Chicago dudes. Herb especially could have that Meek Mill type crossover appeal. Imo they should have dropped these mixtapes purely for the streets, then focused on rising beyond that moving forward. That's why I said they needed someone advising them, tell them just stick to that Keef/Gucci formula of giving the streets what they want on the mixtapes, then showcase your other abilities on industry features and future projects. It seemed like they were trying to be too diverse and crammed too many concepts into one project.

I see what your saying much more clearly now, but the only problem with doing that is that Drill doesn't necessarily give them opps to really show off their talents.. so with the hype the have surrounding them it may be dangerous for their careers to do just straight up Drill **** in fear of getting typecasted into that scene where GBE is prettty much dominating. IMO they don't do those Drill songs as well as Keef or Durk so just doing that style would have made them seem like biters/ inferior.

I think both of them can do real street music and talk to their hood while also having a more diverse sound to do it but your correct in the idea that maybe they need someone to produce or exec produce a whole album for them.

Yeah I think they were afraid of being typecasted, but at the same time they shouldn't have marketed their mixtapes as some hardcore drill street **** if that wasn't what it was. I saw an interview with Bibby where he said Drake told him he was waiting on the mixtape, so he went back and changed it. I guess that's probably when he 'softened' it up a little and added more of the lighter lyrical songs. They should have just continued making the same type of songs, even if they make Drill music they'd automatically stand out from everyone else in that scene because their lyrics and wordplay are so much better. That's what people liked about them, they were Drill rappers but clearly had a higher level of skill than the other mushmouth fools


Finding that balance is def hard though. It also if there's somebody mentoring you who can evaluate what type of buzz you have, and figure out what direction you should go in

 

[mondaynightraw]

Agree with the bold, clearly both dudes can rap but they need more guidance when it comes to putting a full project together.

Both Herb and Bibby need to decide if they want to be on some pure drill gangsta ****, or if they want to be diverse and show off the lyricism. They need someone in the industry to mentor them

Why can't they do both?

 

[trynafeelmink]

Frankly i think they should look at Jeezy/Ross as far as speaking street **** but keeping a uniqueness to it.

Jeezy never been an AMAZING lyricist but he & Ross are head and shoulders above most of those street rappers. so while they can Give u a million street bangers they could go hop on something completely different and still give you heat.

 

[herbshuttles15]

Herb and Bibby need a duo tape

 

[herbshuttles15]

I think All my ****** is favorite song on the tape

 

[johnny rico]

what's the name of that 3rd song on the intro where he say ebk gdk

 

[mondaynightraw]

what's the name of that 3rd song on the intro where he say ebk gdk

 

[johnny rico]

aite preciate it

 

[the 7th mile]

Still banging this

 

[cocaineaudio]

Chief keef **** just more gutter and raw...  Lil Bibby is better than Herb anyway

 

[herbshuttles15]

Chief keef **** just more gutter and raw...  Lil Bibby is better than Herb anyway

Keef aint even rapping right now, he's just mumbling its lazy

 

[albooboo]

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Dudes got bars for days

 

[cocaineaudio]

Keef aint even rapping right now, he's just mumbling its lazy

this joint go too hard

 

[dt43]

Keef aint even rapping right now, he's just mumbling its lazy

this joint go too hard

Uhh that song basically proved his point lol.. a bunch of dumb mumbling and lazy/incoherent lyrics

This dude really said "I got on all red like Clifford, I'm a dog"

 

[D StaXX]

 

[Coromanti]

 

 

Keef aint even rapping right now, he's just mumbling its lazy

this joint go too hard

Uhh that song basically proved his point lol.. a bunch of dumb mumbling and lazy/incoherent lyrics

This dude really said "I got on all red like Clifford, I'm a dog"

Production is what is keeping him alive at this point.

 

[cocaineaudio]

true.. but IT SOUNDS HOT .... that's all it takes these days lol 

 

[albooboo]

 

 

[DROMONTANA]

Nicki Minaj ft. Lil Herb - Chiraq

http://innerurbanmedia.com/category/downloads/

 

[301216baller]

Herb bout to blow

 

[the 7th mile]

Damn they went with the Kill **** flow...when did nicki start spitting again??

 

[D StaXX]

Major look for Herb