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you can try and force change all you want on another person but it's artificial...that person wouldn't have changed otherwise. If you have that mindset your not looking for another person to make a relationship, your looking for a slave.Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
When you say don't try to change someone, what is the difference between bettering someone and trying to change them? I think change is just going to happen. If I get with a girl that is a little overweight, are you telling me to just "accept her for what she is." Meaning I should invite her to eat better and/or perform more physical activity?
you can try and force change all you want on another person but it's artificial...that person wouldn't have changed otherwise. If you have that mindset your not looking for another person to make a relationship, your looking for a slave.Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
When you say don't try to change someone, what is the difference between bettering someone and trying to change them? I think change is just going to happen. If I get with a girl that is a little overweight, are you telling me to just "accept her for what she is." Meaning I should invite her to eat better and/or perform more physical activity?
Originally Posted by RKO2004
Guys, your girl says she likes to be choked. Cut her loose.
Originally Posted by RKO2004
Guys, your girl says she likes to be choked. Cut her loose.
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
When you say don't try to change someone, what is the difference between bettering someone and trying to change them? I think change is just going to happen. If I get with a girl that is a little overweight, are you telling me to just "accept her for what she is." Meaning I should invite her to eat better and/or perform more physical activity?
Ain't you a virgin though?
No. Never said I was. I just have a set of beliefs that differ from the norm here.
Straight common sense
Not so common when you realize many don't have it.
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
When you say don't try to change someone, what is the difference between bettering someone and trying to change them? I think change is just going to happen. If I get with a girl that is a little overweight, are you telling me to just "accept her for what she is." Meaning I should invite her to eat better and/or perform more physical activity?
Ain't you a virgin though?
No. Never said I was. I just have a set of beliefs that differ from the norm here.
Straight common sense
Not so common when you realize many don't have it.
But it is still all trying to CHANGE someone, is my point. Whether you use an aggressive or passive manner, it is still trying to change someone. Which is what I don't agree with. Change is BOUND to happen in a relationship. Any relationship between man and woman, there is going to be change. So for OP to say that trying to change someone i a big no no, I can't agree.Originally Posted by toast1985
Not sure why some of you hate on relationship advice. At least counter with an articulate point.
...Good points throughout. I definitely believe that there is a distinct difference between trying change someone, and trying to change someone for the better. Clear differences.
But it is still all trying to CHANGE someone, is my point. Whether you use an aggressive or passive manner, it is still trying to change someone. Which is what I don't agree with. Change is BOUND to happen in a relationship. Any relationship between man and woman, there is going to be change. So for OP to say that trying to change someone i a big no no, I can't agree.Originally Posted by toast1985
Not sure why some of you hate on relationship advice. At least counter with an articulate point.
...Good points throughout. I definitely believe that there is a distinct difference between trying change someone, and trying to change someone for the better. Clear differences.
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
But it is still all trying to CHANGE someone, is my point. Whether you use an aggressive or passive manner, it is still trying to change someone. Which is what I don't agree with. Change is BOUND to happen in a relationship. Any relationship between man and woman, there is going to be change. So for OP to say that trying to change someone i a big no no, I can't agree.Originally Posted by toast1985
Not sure why some of you hate on relationship advice. At least counter with an articulate point.
...Good points throughout. I definitely believe that there is a distinct difference between trying change someone, and trying to change someone for the better. Clear differences.
Now if we are going to discuss ways in which you can properly and effectively do it, then ok. But to say you shouldn't do it is fair tale talk.
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
But it is still all trying to CHANGE someone, is my point. Whether you use an aggressive or passive manner, it is still trying to change someone. Which is what I don't agree with. Change is BOUND to happen in a relationship. Any relationship between man and woman, there is going to be change. So for OP to say that trying to change someone i a big no no, I can't agree.Originally Posted by toast1985
Not sure why some of you hate on relationship advice. At least counter with an articulate point.
...Good points throughout. I definitely believe that there is a distinct difference between trying change someone, and trying to change someone for the better. Clear differences.
Now if we are going to discuss ways in which you can properly and effectively do it, then ok. But to say you shouldn't do it is fair tale talk.
I just learned about that in Social Psychology. People change in relationships. Men don't want their women to change and women always wanna change a man.Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
But it is still all trying to CHANGE someone, is my point. Whether you use an aggressive or passive manner, it is still trying to change someone. Which is what I don't agree with. Change is BOUND to happen in a relationship. Any relationship between man and woman, there is going to be change. So for OP to say that trying to change someone i a big no no, I can't agree.Originally Posted by toast1985
Not sure why some of you hate on relationship advice. At least counter with an articulate point.
...Good points throughout. I definitely believe that there is a distinct difference between trying change someone, and trying to change someone for the better. Clear differences.
Now if we are going to discuss ways in which you can properly and effectively do it, then ok. But to say you shouldn't do it is fair tale talk.
I just learned about that in Social Psychology. People change in relationships. Men don't want their women to change and women always wanna change a man.Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
But it is still all trying to CHANGE someone, is my point. Whether you use an aggressive or passive manner, it is still trying to change someone. Which is what I don't agree with. Change is BOUND to happen in a relationship. Any relationship between man and woman, there is going to be change. So for OP to say that trying to change someone i a big no no, I can't agree.Originally Posted by toast1985
Not sure why some of you hate on relationship advice. At least counter with an articulate point.
...Good points throughout. I definitely believe that there is a distinct difference between trying change someone, and trying to change someone for the better. Clear differences.
Now if we are going to discuss ways in which you can properly and effectively do it, then ok. But to say you shouldn't do it is fair tale talk.