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I won this pair from a trusted seller on eBay. I made the payment and he delivered the shoes.
Now I doubt the shoes are not legit and wish I could return the shoes and get a refund. However, the seller and I have different understandings about theshoes, so we decide to post the shoes here and let ppl here help us to come up with an agreement.
P.S. I have not problem with the seller and his reputation. Just let the shoes speak.
TheBay page:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=170329341318
We can see the title says "ADIDAS KOBE 6 SAMPLE DS SZ 10 VERY RARE! ", means these are sample shoes. Also inside with detailed descriptions, it stillsays: "...DS ADIDAS KOBE 6 SAMPLE..." and "RARE UNRELEASED SHOE" at last. This is so rare and that why I paid the seller $425 with BIN.
Ok, above are the pictures. Welcome opinions from everyone.
Below are my opinions.
As we can not find another pair of Kobe 3s of the same model, I hope that we do legit checks based on two basic policies:
1. Fakes do not have tags like authentic shoes have.
2. Shoes' tags under a same brand should follow same basic instinctions, even if they are not of a same model.
1)lets get started with the inside shoe tags.
Note: the picture in the middle is the tag of the shoes I got from the seller. The other pictures are the Kobe Two and The Kobe 2002 final PE. I set these twoas reference as they are made by same factory (FTY No. CUL 600) and in pretty much the same year.
Here are the links for the Kobe Two and The Kobe 2002 final PE.
The Kobe 2002 Final PE and TheKobe two
As far as I know, the tags of the Kobe 3s (refers as "The shoes")I've got have many problems that indicate these shoes may not be authentic:
1 The shoes have bar code on the inside shoe tag. But NO other shoes in the meantime have bar code. The Kobe Twos do not have it, nether does The Kobe 02 FinalPE Sample. Please see picture 1.
2 The shoes have a date on the tag says "11/01" which indicates the shoes are made in Nov, 2001. However, I personally have a pair of Kobe Twos,which are made in "10/01", that is, in Otc, 2001. So it means that adidas made the Kobe Two and Three at pretty much the same time. This does notmake any sense to me. Do you think Nike make Lebron 6s and 7s at the same time? I mean it makes sense if adidas came up with the Kobe 3 Samples while The KobeTwo was under massive production, but there can't be massive production of shoes of two generations at a same time. Remember, the shoes are regular productnot samples. Please see Picture 2
3 The sizing chart is ridiculous.
a. Under JP standard it can't be 289 (mm). It could be 285 or 290, but 289 does not make sense. This number ends in, and only in 5 or 0.
b. If this is US 10, then it should also be in FR 44 and JP 280. But your shoes says US 10 but FR 45 and JP 289(or 29
. Another exception? Check out anofficial link below and pay attention to US 10. see the rest numbers.
Adidas Sizing Chart(From SportsAuthority)
c. Even 289 is all right, the hang-tag reads 298. This shoe is not sure of itself.... Or can we just regard it as an acceptable mistake? Do we see things likethis on other shoes?
In short, there are no other adidas shoes have a tag like the pair I got . If you still have questions, please go to the link below, in which you will seeadidas tag of all kind and all years. See if you may find one like yours. This is a legit check site in Chinese, but you don't have to read, just look atall the pictures.
adidas inside shoe tags of all kinds of all time
Another problem is the ankle panel is not matching.
2) The only authentic Kobe 3s' I have ever seen carry Hug System which is used in adidas T-Mac 4s'.
Authentic Kobe3 Samples carrying Hug System
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--->look at the shoe on the left, pay attention to itsrear. The handle can be pulled out.
3) The name of the shoes. I believe these shoes should be named as "The Kobe 3" or "The Kobe Three", as previous models are named as"The Kobe" and "The Kobe Two"
"The Kobe Six" does not make sense. Maybe if we count in EQT KB8 I~3 and The Kobe and The Kobe two, this is the 6th pair of Kobe shoes. But theyshould still be named after the Kobe and The Kobe Two as The Kobe Three.
EQT KB and The Kobe are two series under Kobe Brand, they are not different.
Like Iverson's shoes with RBK, he has Answers from 1to 12, and also Questions from 1 to 3. But Question 3 can't be named as Answer 12s....
Now I doubt the shoes are not legit and wish I could return the shoes and get a refund. However, the seller and I have different understandings about theshoes, so we decide to post the shoes here and let ppl here help us to come up with an agreement.
P.S. I have not problem with the seller and his reputation. Just let the shoes speak.
TheBay page:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=170329341318
We can see the title says "ADIDAS KOBE 6 SAMPLE DS SZ 10 VERY RARE! ", means these are sample shoes. Also inside with detailed descriptions, it stillsays: "...DS ADIDAS KOBE 6 SAMPLE..." and "RARE UNRELEASED SHOE" at last. This is so rare and that why I paid the seller $425 with BIN.
Ok, above are the pictures. Welcome opinions from everyone.
Below are my opinions.
As we can not find another pair of Kobe 3s of the same model, I hope that we do legit checks based on two basic policies:
1. Fakes do not have tags like authentic shoes have.
2. Shoes' tags under a same brand should follow same basic instinctions, even if they are not of a same model.
1)lets get started with the inside shoe tags.
Note: the picture in the middle is the tag of the shoes I got from the seller. The other pictures are the Kobe Two and The Kobe 2002 final PE. I set these twoas reference as they are made by same factory (FTY No. CUL 600) and in pretty much the same year.
Here are the links for the Kobe Two and The Kobe 2002 final PE.
The Kobe 2002 Final PE and TheKobe two
As far as I know, the tags of the Kobe 3s (refers as "The shoes")I've got have many problems that indicate these shoes may not be authentic:
1 The shoes have bar code on the inside shoe tag. But NO other shoes in the meantime have bar code. The Kobe Twos do not have it, nether does The Kobe 02 FinalPE Sample. Please see picture 1.
2 The shoes have a date on the tag says "11/01" which indicates the shoes are made in Nov, 2001. However, I personally have a pair of Kobe Twos,which are made in "10/01", that is, in Otc, 2001. So it means that adidas made the Kobe Two and Three at pretty much the same time. This does notmake any sense to me. Do you think Nike make Lebron 6s and 7s at the same time? I mean it makes sense if adidas came up with the Kobe 3 Samples while The KobeTwo was under massive production, but there can't be massive production of shoes of two generations at a same time. Remember, the shoes are regular productnot samples. Please see Picture 2
3 The sizing chart is ridiculous.
a. Under JP standard it can't be 289 (mm). It could be 285 or 290, but 289 does not make sense. This number ends in, and only in 5 or 0.
b. If this is US 10, then it should also be in FR 44 and JP 280. But your shoes says US 10 but FR 45 and JP 289(or 29
. Another exception? Check out anofficial link below and pay attention to US 10. see the rest numbers.Adidas Sizing Chart(From SportsAuthority)
c. Even 289 is all right, the hang-tag reads 298. This shoe is not sure of itself.... Or can we just regard it as an acceptable mistake? Do we see things likethis on other shoes?
In short, there are no other adidas shoes have a tag like the pair I got . If you still have questions, please go to the link below, in which you will seeadidas tag of all kind and all years. See if you may find one like yours. This is a legit check site in Chinese, but you don't have to read, just look atall the pictures.
adidas inside shoe tags of all kinds of all time
Another problem is the ankle panel is not matching.
2) The only authentic Kobe 3s' I have ever seen carry Hug System which is used in adidas T-Mac 4s'.
Authentic Kobe3 Samples carrying Hug System
3) The name of the shoes. I believe these shoes should be named as "The Kobe 3" or "The Kobe Three", as previous models are named as"The Kobe" and "The Kobe Two"
"The Kobe Six" does not make sense. Maybe if we count in EQT KB8 I~3 and The Kobe and The Kobe two, this is the 6th pair of Kobe shoes. But theyshould still be named after the Kobe and The Kobe Two as The Kobe Three.
EQT KB and The Kobe are two series under Kobe Brand, they are not different.
Like Iverson's shoes with RBK, he has Answers from 1to 12, and also Questions from 1 to 3. But Question 3 can't be named as Answer 12s....
