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Since it's Lebron's teammates that suck he's let off the hook, but if the supporting cast was better, he'd get all the props. How does thatwork?
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Originally Posted by Al3xis
who made open shots?
could Z score at all? and we know besides him nobody on that frontline is
who can create a shot?
It aint LeBron's fault that he has to play iso all the time in the playoffs. that's mike brown's doing. and will ultimately be his undoing.
they won 66 games because of LeBron. And he won the 2 games this series.
these two teams were mismatched big time.
Originally Posted by damnTHOSEjs
Originally Posted by Al3xis
who made open shots?
could Z score at all? and we know besides him nobody on that frontline is
who can create a shot?
It aint LeBron's fault that he has to play iso all the time in the playoffs. that's mike brown's doing. and will ultimately be his undoing.
they won 66 games because of LeBron. And he won the 2 games this series.
these two teams were mismatched big time.
funny on how the main argument on this thread went over your head...we're talking about on how Lebron left the building without any communication with the media...and here you are arguing on how his teammates disappeared in the series.
I don't think I've ever agreed with you on here, but you nailed it on the head this time. I couldn't agree more man.Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43
why do people keep saying "Lebron's teammates suck, it's not his fault"
really? they can't be that bad if they helped him win 66 games.
instead of giving Lebron a pass, maybe he should get some of the blame also for not playing team ball and getting his 66-win teammates involved. Lebron put up great #s, but he was basically playing iso the entire series. the only time he passed the ball was when a teammate had a wide open shot.
in the past 2 games, we've seen what a guy like Delonte West can do when he has the ball and is allowed to create. why didn't Lebron get him involved earlier on in the series? in the first 4 games, West was used mainly as a spot-up shooter.. but clearly, he is much better driving to the hoop and going off the dribble. but Lebron just said "stand right there on the 3pt line. if i drive and don't get a call i'll kick it out to you."
i could understand Lebron dominating the ball if his teammates SUCKED, like Kobe in 06 or something. but they can't be that bad if they led you to 66-wins and helped you cruise through the first 2 rounds... you can't all of a sudden lose trust in them when you're playing a good team.
basketball is a TEAM game. you win as a team, and you take the blame for the L as a team.
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
Chuck finster,
The jerry rice thing doesn't fit here. Like you said Jerry Rice NEVER stayed to shake hands that's the difference.
Lebron could be found cuttin up smilin & laughin after his two previous playoff series Ws
And I hope to God he really didn't leave seperate from the team
Maybe this is where havin some real advisors around instead of his friendly yes men woulda helped. Someone on his "team" shoulda straightened his $$$ out and told him slow down, hold your head high in a Loss and go man up shake hands and be as good a teammate thru adversity as you are when everything is going good. Your character is revealed when times are hard not when everything is going great.
Damn.Originally Posted by Its That Dude
BAD SPORTSMANSHIP
IMMATURITY
SORE LOSER
realest **$+ I ever read in the S&TOriginally Posted by EB4President
dont be so quick to blame players around lebron, it amazes me how team does well he gets all the praise, team does bad he gets none of the blame. Any other player or sport THAT guy has to be able to take the praise and blame, not fair but how it is and should be
It's not hate, I wish people would stop saying that. It just not a good look, plain and simple. People are trying to defend it with all kindsof excuses. Thing is in 2007 the Cavs actually MADE it to the Finals, GOT SWEPT, and Bron had a far WORSE team than he did this year, and he still after thegame acknowledged the Spurs and spoke to the media. And the oh he's young argument that some people in the other thread were trying to make doesn'thold water either, he was 22 then, he's 24 now. Just take your LeBron shorts off and see it for what it was, just a *%#%* move.Originally Posted by travman24
Wow LeBron hate is gettin stronger like the Hulk.
seriously? common dude, he averaged more than 8 assists, and if you watched the series at all there were tons of times where he made sick passeswhere his teammates blew a layup or wide open look. To say that he didn't try to get his teammates involved is utter crapOriginally Posted by DOWNTOWN43
why do people keep saying "Lebron's teammates suck, it's not his fault"
really? they can't be that bad if they helped him win 66 games.
instead of giving Lebron a pass, maybe he should get some of the blame also for not playing team ball and getting his 66-win teammates involved. Lebron put up great #s, but he was basically playing iso the entire series. the only time he passed the ball was when a teammate had a wide open shot.
in the past 2 games, we've seen what a guy like Delonte West can do when he has the ball and is allowed to create. why didn't Lebron get him involved earlier on in the series? in the first 4 games, West was used mainly as a spot-up shooter.. but clearly, he is much better driving to the hoop and going off the dribble. but Lebron just said "stand right there on the 3pt line. if i drive and don't get a call i'll kick it out to you."
i could understand Lebron dominating the ball if his teammates SUCKED, like Kobe in 06 or something. but they can't be that bad if they led you to 66-wins and helped you cruise through the first 2 rounds... you can't all of a sudden lose trust in them when you're playing a good team.
basketball is a TEAM game. you win as a team, and you take the blame for the L as a team.
Originally Posted by Mamba MVP
It's not hate, I wish people would stop saying that. It just not a good look, plain and simple. People are trying to defend it with all kinds of excuses. Thing is in 2007 the Cavs actually MADE it to the Finals, GOT SWEPT, and Bron had a far WORSE team than he did this year, and he still after the game acknowledged the Spurs and spoke to the media. And the oh he's young argument that some people in the other thread were trying to make doesn't hold water either, he was 22 then, he's 24 now. Just take your LeBron shorts off and see it for what it was, just a *%#%* move.Originally Posted by travman24
Wow LeBron hate is gettin stronger like the Hulk.
it should be hilarious to hear skip...Originally Posted by got shoes
i like how the article down played his antics after the game. i can't wait for Bayless to go in