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Anywhere but Cleveland next year, he has to get out of that system.
Zach, what LBJ II are those in your avatar?
Zach, what LBJ II are those in your avatar?
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I don't think so! *wink*Originally Posted by bak ymmij
Anywhere but Cleveland next year, he has to get out of that system.
Zach, what LBJ II are those in your avatar?
qft.Originally Posted by ZombieJesus12
Anyone who thinks the Cavs are getting to the finals this year is someone who doesn't watch much basketball.
Originally Posted by ZombieJesus12
Anyone who thinks the Cavs are getting to the finals this year is someone who doesn't watch much basketball.
I tell you what, genuis: This year, if the Cavs beat the Nets for the Eastern Conference championship, then go and meet the Memphis Grizzlies inthe NBA Finals, then and only then will I agree that you're right and "anyone has a good shot" at getting to the finals. Keep watching tons ofbasketball, but if you say some stupid $%* like that it's clear you don't UNDERSTAND basketball.Originally Posted by vhate420
Originally Posted by ZombieJesus12
Anyone who thinks the Cavs are getting to the finals this year is someone who doesn't watch much basketball.
i watch tons and i def think they have as good a shot as anyone. must b a hater
Originally Posted by ZombieJesus12
I tell you what, genuis: This year, if the Cavs beat the Nets for the Eastern Conference championship, then go and meet the Memphis Grizzlies in the NBA Finals, then and only then will I agree that you're right and "anyone has a good shot" at getting to the finals. Keep watching tons of basketball, but if you say some stupid $%* like that it's clear you don't UNDERSTAND basketball.Originally Posted by vhate420
Originally Posted by ZombieJesus12
Anyone who thinks the Cavs are getting to the finals this year is someone who doesn't watch much basketball.
i watch tons and i def think they have as good a shot as anyone. must b a hater
There are obvious tiers in the team talent/execution level on the NBA level right now. That means that teams like LA are simply better than teams like the Hornets. The Magic are better than the Cavaliers. So is Boston. That's not hate, that's just a fact. The Cavs have never beat the Magic or the full Celtic team in a playoff series. This year both those teams got better. They won't get to the finals this year. Truth be told, the Bulls might give the Cavs problems in the playoffs if they matchup.
Oh, do you still think it's hate? Here's why the Cavs aren't a Finals team this year: West is facing some problems, and he's their second most important offensive player. He's a better passer than Mo, he's a better rebounder, he's harder to match up for other teams and he's a good defender. The Cavs don't have good team defense, they can't solve pick and rolls (Spurs in 06-07 swept them using this over and over, Magic used it last year, Boston will run it this year) or guard outside shooters. Bron and Delonte are the only guys who can play D, Mo is lazy and drifts, Varejao is mostly illegal holds and can't do anything about anyone bigger than him, Gibson, Karl, Moon and Parker can't rotate or stop anyone one on one, Big Z is too old to keep up, he doesn't even rebound as much as he used to, Shaq is way too fat and slow to cover the pick and roll, he fouls a lot more than he used to and he can't defend any C that takes him outside of the paint. Shaq/Bron/Delonte are the only players who aren't soft, the Cavs flop a lot (Varejao especially, but Mo and Z frequently) and that doesn't get called in the playoffs, and it gets them out of rhythym, which they also do when they complain about a no-call when they're on offense, which is a lot. They're easily rattled. They can't play at speed, so teams that run, like the Bulls do, can beat them and get them out of their offense. They don't have a coach (Brown winning CoY because Bron took it to another level is ridiculous, the man is terrible), so they call bad timeouts, manage the clock poorly, and never have good plays coming out of timeouts. They don't actually run an offense, really. They just give it to Bron and clear out. The Cavs have been on a roll recently, but they play better in the regular season than they do in the playoffs, because their flaws get magnified and better teams can pick them apart.
This isn't a bias, because I like Bron and I don't care about the Cavs. This is just an objective opinion. Right now the Lakers are the best team in the West and the Nuggets are probably second, the Magic in the East and the Celtics second. Call it hate, or call it someone who's spent their life following basketball's observation.
Originally Posted by jlab0ch0
Maybe he just wants a new look. New number, new team.
Originally Posted by bigtimejerky
Originally Posted by ZombieJesus12
I tell you what, genuis: This year, if the Cavs beat the Nets for the Eastern Conference championship, then go and meet the Memphis Grizzlies in the NBA Finals, then and only then will I agree that you're right and "anyone has a good shot" at getting to the finals. Keep watching tons of basketball, but if you say some stupid $%* like that it's clear you don't UNDERSTAND basketball.Originally Posted by vhate420
Originally Posted by ZombieJesus12
Anyone who thinks the Cavs are getting to the finals this year is someone who doesn't watch much basketball.
i watch tons and i def think they have as good a shot as anyone. must b a hater
There are obvious tiers in the team talent/execution level on the NBA level right now. That means that teams like LA are simply better than teams like the Hornets. The Magic are better than the Cavaliers. So is Boston. That's not hate, that's just a fact. The Cavs have never beat the Magic or the full Celtic team in a playoff series. This year both those teams got better. They won't get to the finals this year. Truth be told, the Bulls might give the Cavs problems in the playoffs if they matchup.
Oh, do you still think it's hate? Here's why the Cavs aren't a Finals team this year: West is facing some problems, and he's their second most important offensive player. He's a better passer than Mo, he's a better rebounder, he's harder to match up for other teams and he's a good defender. The Cavs don't have good team defense, they can't solve pick and rolls (Spurs in 06-07 swept them using this over and over, Magic used it last year, Boston will run it this year) or guard outside shooters. Bron and Delonte are the only guys who can play D, Mo is lazy and drifts, Varejao is mostly illegal holds and can't do anything about anyone bigger than him, Gibson, Karl, Moon and Parker can't rotate or stop anyone one on one, Big Z is too old to keep up, he doesn't even rebound as much as he used to, Shaq is way too fat and slow to cover the pick and roll, he fouls a lot more than he used to and he can't defend any C that takes him outside of the paint. Shaq/Bron/Delonte are the only players who aren't soft, the Cavs flop a lot (Varejao especially, but Mo and Z frequently) and that doesn't get called in the playoffs, and it gets them out of rhythym, which they also do when they complain about a no-call when they're on offense, which is a lot. They're easily rattled. They can't play at speed, so teams that run, like the Bulls do, can beat them and get them out of their offense. They don't have a coach (Brown winning CoY because Bron took it to another level is ridiculous, the man is terrible), so they call bad timeouts, manage the clock poorly, and never have good plays coming out of timeouts. They don't actually run an offense, really. They just give it to Bron and clear out. The Cavs have been on a roll recently, but they play better in the regular season than they do in the playoffs, because their flaws get magnified and better teams can pick them apart.
This isn't a bias, because I like Bron and I don't care about the Cavs. This is just an objective opinion. Right now the Lakers are the best team in the West and the Nuggets are probably second, the Magic in the East and the Celtics second. Call it hate, or call it someone who's spent their life following basketball's observation.Calm down hater... its still REALLY early in the season to determine ANYTHING solid.
And yes you are a hater because you hate anything associated with the guy.
I honestly think he keeps his symbol... but i dont know about his signature
agreed, i was thinking maybe he's trying to get more money for the amount of new jerseys people would have to buy, but then doesn't thatmoney go to the cavs??......and to tell ya'll the truth, i wouldnt be surprised if lebron doesnt even change his number next year and all this is fornothing lolOriginally Posted by c4
I think something's up here. If Lebron felt this way, he would have made a move in the past 7 years, or came into the league with a different number. I always thought it was weird that he was 23 to be honest.
Originally Posted by c4
I think something's up here.