- Feb 23, 2010
- 23,400
- 26,481
**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by licensed to ball,
- Start date
darthska
Staff member
- Apr 30, 2004
- 46,973
- 31,597
Why do we do this? 
Can we not be down double digits after 1Q every damn game? Kinda matters in the 4th.
Can we not be down double digits after 1Q every damn game? Kinda matters in the 4th.
- Feb 29, 2000
- 88,762
- 47,972
reaves is an ***.
MIKE LOWERY
formerly chuck finster
- Mar 1, 2007
- 7,599
- 4,732
The dreaded fake comeback
- Feb 23, 2010
- 23,400
- 26,481
And then give up 6 straight points in under a minute
- Jun 29, 2018
- 1,282
- 2,174
Getting tired of seeing players come back from injury or overplay to get injured when see the lakers on the calendar smh
- Apr 24, 2006
- 18,753
- 13,103
Hate those fake comeback
Old, banged up guys over exerting themselves for nothing
Old, banged up guys over exerting themselves for nothing
- Sep 11, 2011
- 20,616
- 10,222
AR gotta watch some film
he on teams radars now man lol he gotta find counters to his counters and try not to force ****
over dribbling and bad telegraphed passes.. got growin painds to do
but i think he'll be aite
he on teams radars now man lol he gotta find counters to his counters and try not to force ****
over dribbling and bad telegraphed passes.. got growin painds to do
but i think he'll be aite
- Jun 18, 2003
- 2,356
- 18,144
So much for the “Fro” working for AD…
9 points, he got owned by Sabonis
9 points, he got owned by Sabonis
- Apr 3, 2004
- 4,579
- 1,734
- Sep 11, 2011
- 20,616
- 10,222
ad grabbing hip after 1st qtr prob re aggravated groin spasm thing
- Apr 24, 2006
- 18,753
- 13,103
Sabonis has grown man strength
AD is long and athletic, but not as strong
The injury definitely played a part
AD is long and athletic, but not as strong
The injury definitely played a part
- Feb 17, 2019
- 16,717
- 17,709
What goes on in Ham's mind and pockets only Darvin and his hands know
- Oct 28, 2013
- 42,726
- 178,517
- Jan 18, 2006
- 40,371
- 45,125
Sabonis and Fox were great last night.
We started out slow for both halfs.
When we got it down to six and couldn't get any closer you kinda knew it was over.
Just as long as we don't start slow Friday I'm good.
We started out slow for both halfs.
When we got it down to six and couldn't get any closer you kinda knew it was over.
Just as long as we don't start slow Friday I'm good.
- Sep 5, 2010
- 92,806
- 129,102
- Sep 5, 2010
- 92,806
- 129,102
Don't see a LaVine trade happening with the Lakers. Personally think the Bulls can/should hold off until the summer to trade LaVine, but if they wanted to trade him mid-season, the Lakers wouldn't have the best offer anyways.
- Sep 5, 2010
- 92,806
- 129,102
The latest on Zach LaVine
The backdrop to the Lakers’ back-to-back homestand is the potential ramifications from the latest development in Chicago: the Bulls and star guard Zach LaVine are both increasingly open to “exploring a trade,” as The Athletic’s Shams Charania and Darnell Mayberry reported Tuesday. The Lakers, Miami Heat and Philadelphia 76ers are three teams are expected to have interest in LaVine, according to Charania and Mayberry.
The Lakers’ interest in LaVine is real — at the right price. However, LaVine’s potential availability also hints at the possibility of a fire sale in Chicago, with the organization seemingly looking to finally pivot away from its longstanding mediocrity. If additional Bulls players become available, the Lakers would also have interest in DeMar DeRozan and/or former Laker Alex Caruso, according to multiple team sources.
The Lakers have exhibited interest in DeRozan and, to a lesser extent, LaVine for several years. Meanwhile, Caruso’s departure in the summer of 2021 remains a thorny topic around the organization.
The Lakers’ biggest concern in a potential LaVine trade is his gigantic contract: In addition to his $40.1 million salary for 2023-24, he’s owed $138 million over the next three years (which includes a $49 million player option in 2026-27 he seems likely to exercise). Moreover, LaVine has a 15 percent trade kicker that he’d almost certainly have to waive to make a trade to the Lakers feasible financially. Conversely, DeRozan is on an expiring $28.6 million contract, while Caruso is making just $9.6 million this season and $9.9 million in 2024-25 (only $3 million of which is guaranteed).
There’s also an open question of how much LaVine would actually address the Lakers’ needs, particularly perimeter defense and 3-point shooting.
This season, LaVine is averaging 21.7 points, 4.9 rebounds, 3.0 assists and 0.8 steals in 35.2 minutes per game. He would give the Lakers a reliable third (and even second, on some nights) scoring option. He’d also give them a much-needed infusion of perimeter athleticism and 3-point shooting – he’s making just 33 percent from 3 this season, but 38.2 percent for his career. At the same time, though he’s improved as a defender through the years, LaVine remains a liability on that end and would exacerbate LA’s current backcourt issues.
Another swing factor is the Lakers are temporarily limited in what they can offer the Bulls. Because so many of the Lakers’ players recently received new contracts, the only players they can include in a trade at this very moment are James, Max Christie, Jalen Hood-Schifino, Maxwell Lewis and their three two-way contract players (Colin Castleton, Alex Fudge and D’Moi Hodge).
The Lakers would realistically have to wait until at least until Dec. 15, when most of their roster becomes trade-eligible (Russell, Gabe Vincent, Taurean Prince, Reddish, Christian Wood and Jaxson Hayes). Beyond that, Reaves and Rui Hachimura become trade eligible on Jan. 15. (Davis becomes trade eligible on Feb. 6, but don’t expect them to move him or James. Jarred Vanderbilt cannot be traded due to his multi-year contract extension.) The Lakers aren’t interested in including Reaves in a potential LaVine deal despite his recent move to the bench, according to multiple team sources.
Would the Bulls be willing to wait for one-to-two months — and pass on potentially better offers — just to move LaVine to Los Angeles?
The most likely framework of a LaVine deal would center around Russell, who waived his implied no-trade clause over the offseason. It’d also need to feature Hachimura or Vincent as additional matching salary, another player and either the team’s 2029 or 2030 first-round pick – potentially with protections. (It cannot include both due to the restrictions of the Stepien rule). The Lakers would prefer to expand a theoretical trade to include Caruso, in the scenario that he’s eventually made available. One complication in that case is that the Lakers do not have many available first-round picks left to trade, though they could insert another pick swap (the first-round pick they don’t send between 2029 and 2030) and have four second-round picks available to trade.
Because the Lakers are hard-capped at the first apron ($172.3 million), they’d only be able to bring back roughly $4.9 million in additional salary (their roster total is roughly $167.4 million). They’d also have to have at least 14 players on their roster.
In any event, any potential Lavine trade — and/or one involving DeRozan and/or Caruso — is several weeks away at a minimum. The Lakers’ play between now and Dec. 15, but more likely Jan. 15, will ultimately determine which of their players are made available in a trade and whether they decide to pursue a bigger or smaller move. As long as their record continues to yo-yo, there will be speculation about potential deals that would affect this season’s title chances.
In the short term, the more pressing challenge for the Lakers is navigating the every-other-day nature of the schedule and establishing a baseline level of consistency.
“We have too many games that’s coming up on top of us very soon and they’re going to be flying,” James said. “This is three in four nights. We play Friday. We play Sunday. We got a lot of games coming. You learn from some of the mistakes. You learn from some of the good things. But then you move on.”
The backdrop to the Lakers’ back-to-back homestand is the potential ramifications from the latest development in Chicago: the Bulls and star guard Zach LaVine are both increasingly open to “exploring a trade,” as The Athletic’s Shams Charania and Darnell Mayberry reported Tuesday. The Lakers, Miami Heat and Philadelphia 76ers are three teams are expected to have interest in LaVine, according to Charania and Mayberry.
The Lakers’ interest in LaVine is real — at the right price. However, LaVine’s potential availability also hints at the possibility of a fire sale in Chicago, with the organization seemingly looking to finally pivot away from its longstanding mediocrity. If additional Bulls players become available, the Lakers would also have interest in DeMar DeRozan and/or former Laker Alex Caruso, according to multiple team sources.
The Lakers have exhibited interest in DeRozan and, to a lesser extent, LaVine for several years. Meanwhile, Caruso’s departure in the summer of 2021 remains a thorny topic around the organization.
The Lakers’ biggest concern in a potential LaVine trade is his gigantic contract: In addition to his $40.1 million salary for 2023-24, he’s owed $138 million over the next three years (which includes a $49 million player option in 2026-27 he seems likely to exercise). Moreover, LaVine has a 15 percent trade kicker that he’d almost certainly have to waive to make a trade to the Lakers feasible financially. Conversely, DeRozan is on an expiring $28.6 million contract, while Caruso is making just $9.6 million this season and $9.9 million in 2024-25 (only $3 million of which is guaranteed).
There’s also an open question of how much LaVine would actually address the Lakers’ needs, particularly perimeter defense and 3-point shooting.
This season, LaVine is averaging 21.7 points, 4.9 rebounds, 3.0 assists and 0.8 steals in 35.2 minutes per game. He would give the Lakers a reliable third (and even second, on some nights) scoring option. He’d also give them a much-needed infusion of perimeter athleticism and 3-point shooting – he’s making just 33 percent from 3 this season, but 38.2 percent for his career. At the same time, though he’s improved as a defender through the years, LaVine remains a liability on that end and would exacerbate LA’s current backcourt issues.
Another swing factor is the Lakers are temporarily limited in what they can offer the Bulls. Because so many of the Lakers’ players recently received new contracts, the only players they can include in a trade at this very moment are James, Max Christie, Jalen Hood-Schifino, Maxwell Lewis and their three two-way contract players (Colin Castleton, Alex Fudge and D’Moi Hodge).
The Lakers would realistically have to wait until at least until Dec. 15, when most of their roster becomes trade-eligible (Russell, Gabe Vincent, Taurean Prince, Reddish, Christian Wood and Jaxson Hayes). Beyond that, Reaves and Rui Hachimura become trade eligible on Jan. 15. (Davis becomes trade eligible on Feb. 6, but don’t expect them to move him or James. Jarred Vanderbilt cannot be traded due to his multi-year contract extension.) The Lakers aren’t interested in including Reaves in a potential LaVine deal despite his recent move to the bench, according to multiple team sources.
Would the Bulls be willing to wait for one-to-two months — and pass on potentially better offers — just to move LaVine to Los Angeles?
The most likely framework of a LaVine deal would center around Russell, who waived his implied no-trade clause over the offseason. It’d also need to feature Hachimura or Vincent as additional matching salary, another player and either the team’s 2029 or 2030 first-round pick – potentially with protections. (It cannot include both due to the restrictions of the Stepien rule). The Lakers would prefer to expand a theoretical trade to include Caruso, in the scenario that he’s eventually made available. One complication in that case is that the Lakers do not have many available first-round picks left to trade, though they could insert another pick swap (the first-round pick they don’t send between 2029 and 2030) and have four second-round picks available to trade.
Because the Lakers are hard-capped at the first apron ($172.3 million), they’d only be able to bring back roughly $4.9 million in additional salary (their roster total is roughly $167.4 million). They’d also have to have at least 14 players on their roster.
In any event, any potential Lavine trade — and/or one involving DeRozan and/or Caruso — is several weeks away at a minimum. The Lakers’ play between now and Dec. 15, but more likely Jan. 15, will ultimately determine which of their players are made available in a trade and whether they decide to pursue a bigger or smaller move. As long as their record continues to yo-yo, there will be speculation about potential deals that would affect this season’s title chances.
In the short term, the more pressing challenge for the Lakers is navigating the every-other-day nature of the schedule and establishing a baseline level of consistency.
“We have too many games that’s coming up on top of us very soon and they’re going to be flying,” James said. “This is three in four nights. We play Friday. We play Sunday. We got a lot of games coming. You learn from some of the mistakes. You learn from some of the good things. But then you move on.”
- Jul 29, 2012
- 4,735
- 5,519
Article says not interested in trading Reaves from multiple sources, and Vando not eligible from his contract extension. I'd prefer getting Caruso if possible instead of going for the big fish. Caruso shooting 44.8% from 3 so far this year and >36% (from 3) on his career. Would give some guard defense that Lakers haven't had and some reliable 3pt shooting. Can start or come off the bench and familiar with playing with most of the guys
Last edited:
- May 17, 2007
- 25,131
- 23,959
Probably wouldn’t play ad on back to backs. Especially if he’s dealing with his hip injury
- Sep 11, 2011
- 20,616
- 10,222
If they can get Caruso they should man lol
- Mar 24, 2001
- 44,833
- 66,536
Trading 3 players for Lavine creates more problems than it solves. I'd def trade one of the youngins for AC tho
- May 18, 2004
- 1,338
- 510
OKC still trying to snatch up picks? LOL give em AR dlo + first rounders for SGA.... 
darthska
Staff member
- Apr 30, 2004
- 46,973
- 31,597
I hate to have tunnel vision and only focused on one thing, but... Sypda.
DMitch & AD for the next 5-ish years as Bron begins to head out. Surround them with defensive specialists and shooters and a couple backup bigs, and run it.
DMitch & AD for the next 5-ish years as Bron begins to head out. Surround them with defensive specialists and shooters and a couple backup bigs, and run it.
