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I like the trade. Gives us a PG, and has a decent shot from 3.
**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins
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Re-sign KCP, Kieff and Dudz. See what happens with Javale, Cook and Bradley.
Sign Harkless or Justin Holiday.
Sign Harkless or Justin Holiday.
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I don’t think the money makes sense after giving up DG
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I’m assuming the market and teams willingness to trade and or take on money is dry if we were able to get Shroeder for pick and the corpse of DG
or maybe some teams really value DGs vet presence? I know we did when we signed him. We thought he’d be out 3rd best players. Whenin reality he was number 9th lol
or maybe some teams really value DGs vet presence? I know we did when we signed him. We thought he’d be out 3rd best players. Whenin reality he was number 9th lol
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What about Boogie?
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Ok ok. They literally the same player but one makes quadruple the money
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I think I would want someone taller and younger, but Wes Matthews is okay.
Fun fact Wes' dad was on the Showtime Lakers.
Fun fact Wes' dad was on the Showtime Lakers.
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Serge and Wes on the way too????
Like Dennis he fills a role we needed but will the lakers curse of shooters coming here and forgetting how to shoot continue?
Like Dennis he fills a role we needed but will the lakers curse of shooters coming here and forgetting how to shoot continue?
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Danny's best and only memorable game as a Laker was opening night of the season against the Clips way back in Oct 2019. So basically $15 mil for one game lol. In other words dude was a practice player.
Good riddance.
Good riddance.
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If we can get Gallinari or ibaka for the big MLE, I would be ecstatic. A championship team that's even better than last year
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What will soon-to-be-acquired Dennis Schröder bring to the Lakers?
The season of reshuffling has nearly arrived. Trades, in the NBA, can be consummated again on Monday morning and it seems the Lakers have already completed their prep work. As first reported by The Athletic’s Shams Charania, they are on the verge of acquiring Thunder guard Dennis Schröder for Danny Green and the No. 28 pick in Wednesday’s NBA Draft.
Because the Lakers owe New Orleans a protected 2021 first-rounder, they can’t officially trade the 28th pick until after the selection is made, per NBA rules, but that becomes a formality. The Thunder would control the asset, which is the appealing portion of this swap for a franchise undergoing a massive rebuild.
For the Lakers, the appeal is simple. Schröder would immediately become their third-best scorer. He averaged 18.9 points off the Thunder bench last season, scoring 1,191 total, the most among all NBA reserves. That’s also significantly more than any Lakers player not named Anthony Davis and LeBron James. Kyle Kuzma, the Lakers’ third-leading scorer, didn’t even reach 13 per game.
Schröder does it at all three levels. Despite a tiny build, the 6-foot-1 guard is slithery on the drive with deft touch around the rim and a floater he can teardrop over descending bigs. Schröder made 157 shots in the restricted area last season. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, for example, made 95.
Schröder attacks the paint, but he also pairs it with an effective stop-and-pop midrange. He was 117-of-243 on 2-point jumpers last season, a respectable 48.7 percent, which was efficient enough to keep defenses honest while not sucking an offense dry. He particularly loves the 15-19 foot range. Schröder made 71 jumpers from that zone last season, tied with Kawhi Leonard for eighth most in the NBA.
But it’s his capable 3-point shot that might add the most to a Lakers team in desperate need of some supplementary shooting. It didn’t bite them in the playoffs — mostly because Caldwell-Pope got hot at the right time — but the Lakers were a bottom-10, collective 3-point shooting team last season, allowing defenses to collapse on James and Davis and bog down the offensive flow for stretches.
Green was a major culprit. His 3-point accuracy tumbled from 45 percent during his lone season in Toronto to 36 percent with the Lakers, trickling down to 33 percent in the playoffs when his cold streaks hurt the most. The Lakers created 45 wide-open 3s for Green in the playoffs — no defender within six feet of him, per NBA.com/Stats — and he only made 16 of them.
Schröder, still in his early prime at 27, is more potent and capable. Last season, he made 125 3-pointers, more than every Laker except James, who led his team in 3s for the first time since 2008 in a glaring sign of the lack of spacers around him. Schröder’s accuracy was 38.5 percent, which was equal to Caldwell-Pope, who led the Lakers.
But zero in on that catch-and-shoot number. In his Atlanta days, Schröder was often the lead initiator, but playing next to Russell Westbrook and later Chris Paul in Oklahoma City, he became more comfortable in the type of off-ball, supplementary role he’ll fill when sharing the court with James. Ninety-six of Schröder’s 125 made 3s in 2019-20 were of the catch-and-shoot variety, done with 41.4 percent accuracy. When left wide open, he was 66-of-139, a 44.6 percent clip. He’s just much more dangerous from deep than Green at this stage of their careers.
Is there a downside? Of course. Green is a longer, stronger, more accomplished defender. He is not a stopper, but he’s a veteran who can reliably take shifts on James Harden, Leonard and Paul George and even smaller guards like Damian Lillard and Steph Curry. Schröder isn’t that. You can’t put him on bigger wings and, if he’s on some of the league’s better guards, he’s in survival mode. There will be times when the Lakers might have to hide him on the opponent’s least threatening option.
But Schröder also is not awful on defense. It won’t be a problem like the Clippers have with Lou Williams. The Thunder actually had a much better defensive rating with him on the floor (103.0) than off of it (111.
last season. It was the same situation in OKC’s seven-game first-round series against the Rockets: 103.8 with Schröder on it, team-worst 114.9 with him off of it. That might be the greatest argument why Schröder will work in the postseason for a defense-first Lakers team. He just worked in a playoff series against a conference rival.
This move also allows the Lakers to have a comfortable walk-away point with Rajon Rondo, who declined his player option in search of a bigger, free-agency payday (the Clippers are reportedly interested). Rondo’s secondary playmaking was vital next to James because of the team’s lack of other creators, but Schröder is a creator. He averaged four assists last season on a team that included Chris Paul.
The loss of the draft asset in this transaction shouldn’t be ignored. It’s hard to find a rotation player with the 28th pick, but it’s not impossible. The Spurs once drafted Tony Parker at that number. The Lakers didn’t need a home run like Parker, but a young, developmental piece would’ve been nice. They’ve already traded away their entire 2021 draft, plus a couple other future firsts. It’s difficult to re-layer the roster for the middle of the next decade without first-rounders.
But that’s not the Lakers’ priority. They’re in pure win-now mode, set up with a prime chance to defend their championship next season. The upgrade from Schröder to Green, just days before they go free-agency hunting, is a huge boost to that goal.
The season of reshuffling has nearly arrived. Trades, in the NBA, can be consummated again on Monday morning and it seems the Lakers have already completed their prep work. As first reported by The Athletic’s Shams Charania, they are on the verge of acquiring Thunder guard Dennis Schröder for Danny Green and the No. 28 pick in Wednesday’s NBA Draft.
Because the Lakers owe New Orleans a protected 2021 first-rounder, they can’t officially trade the 28th pick until after the selection is made, per NBA rules, but that becomes a formality. The Thunder would control the asset, which is the appealing portion of this swap for a franchise undergoing a massive rebuild.
For the Lakers, the appeal is simple. Schröder would immediately become their third-best scorer. He averaged 18.9 points off the Thunder bench last season, scoring 1,191 total, the most among all NBA reserves. That’s also significantly more than any Lakers player not named Anthony Davis and LeBron James. Kyle Kuzma, the Lakers’ third-leading scorer, didn’t even reach 13 per game.
Schröder does it at all three levels. Despite a tiny build, the 6-foot-1 guard is slithery on the drive with deft touch around the rim and a floater he can teardrop over descending bigs. Schröder made 157 shots in the restricted area last season. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, for example, made 95.
Schröder attacks the paint, but he also pairs it with an effective stop-and-pop midrange. He was 117-of-243 on 2-point jumpers last season, a respectable 48.7 percent, which was efficient enough to keep defenses honest while not sucking an offense dry. He particularly loves the 15-19 foot range. Schröder made 71 jumpers from that zone last season, tied with Kawhi Leonard for eighth most in the NBA.
But it’s his capable 3-point shot that might add the most to a Lakers team in desperate need of some supplementary shooting. It didn’t bite them in the playoffs — mostly because Caldwell-Pope got hot at the right time — but the Lakers were a bottom-10, collective 3-point shooting team last season, allowing defenses to collapse on James and Davis and bog down the offensive flow for stretches.
Green was a major culprit. His 3-point accuracy tumbled from 45 percent during his lone season in Toronto to 36 percent with the Lakers, trickling down to 33 percent in the playoffs when his cold streaks hurt the most. The Lakers created 45 wide-open 3s for Green in the playoffs — no defender within six feet of him, per NBA.com/Stats — and he only made 16 of them.
Schröder, still in his early prime at 27, is more potent and capable. Last season, he made 125 3-pointers, more than every Laker except James, who led his team in 3s for the first time since 2008 in a glaring sign of the lack of spacers around him. Schröder’s accuracy was 38.5 percent, which was equal to Caldwell-Pope, who led the Lakers.
But zero in on that catch-and-shoot number. In his Atlanta days, Schröder was often the lead initiator, but playing next to Russell Westbrook and later Chris Paul in Oklahoma City, he became more comfortable in the type of off-ball, supplementary role he’ll fill when sharing the court with James. Ninety-six of Schröder’s 125 made 3s in 2019-20 were of the catch-and-shoot variety, done with 41.4 percent accuracy. When left wide open, he was 66-of-139, a 44.6 percent clip. He’s just much more dangerous from deep than Green at this stage of their careers.
Is there a downside? Of course. Green is a longer, stronger, more accomplished defender. He is not a stopper, but he’s a veteran who can reliably take shifts on James Harden, Leonard and Paul George and even smaller guards like Damian Lillard and Steph Curry. Schröder isn’t that. You can’t put him on bigger wings and, if he’s on some of the league’s better guards, he’s in survival mode. There will be times when the Lakers might have to hide him on the opponent’s least threatening option.
But Schröder also is not awful on defense. It won’t be a problem like the Clippers have with Lou Williams. The Thunder actually had a much better defensive rating with him on the floor (103.0) than off of it (111.
last season. It was the same situation in OKC’s seven-game first-round series against the Rockets: 103.8 with Schröder on it, team-worst 114.9 with him off of it. That might be the greatest argument why Schröder will work in the postseason for a defense-first Lakers team. He just worked in a playoff series against a conference rival.This move also allows the Lakers to have a comfortable walk-away point with Rajon Rondo, who declined his player option in search of a bigger, free-agency payday (the Clippers are reportedly interested). Rondo’s secondary playmaking was vital next to James because of the team’s lack of other creators, but Schröder is a creator. He averaged four assists last season on a team that included Chris Paul.
The loss of the draft asset in this transaction shouldn’t be ignored. It’s hard to find a rotation player with the 28th pick, but it’s not impossible. The Spurs once drafted Tony Parker at that number. The Lakers didn’t need a home run like Parker, but a young, developmental piece would’ve been nice. They’ve already traded away their entire 2021 draft, plus a couple other future firsts. It’s difficult to re-layer the roster for the middle of the next decade without first-rounders.
But that’s not the Lakers’ priority. They’re in pure win-now mode, set up with a prime chance to defend their championship next season. The upgrade from Schröder to Green, just days before they go free-agency hunting, is a huge boost to that goal.
Informative write up.
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Anyone still think Boogie can come back and be a factor?
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Wonder what happens if Rondo doesn’t get that big deal will you come back for the minimum or we won’t even have a spot for him. But I’m sure the deal is already set for him
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Schroeder good pick up, younger rondo and can play crunch time plus handle the ball for second unit.
DG gonna shoot lights out in oklahomer
DG gonna shoot lights out in oklahomer
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Green is a bum glad we got a good player in Schroder for him
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Matthews is from Wisconsin and on a contender. Don't think he leaves but I'd rather have Harkless
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Bro Wes Matthews is 1000 years old and coming off a popped achilles....
he move worse than danny at this point......
HELL NO
he move worse than danny at this point......
HELL NO
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Joe Harris > Wes Matthews
Imagine what Harris would do playing next to Bron, AD, Caruso. Dude known for being one of best catch n shoot three point snipers in league but he got highlights on defense too
Imagine what Harris would do playing next to Bron, AD, Caruso. Dude known for being one of best catch n shoot three point snipers in league but he got highlights on defense too
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As another cheap option on the Wings, i would like to see Glenn Robinsin jr get a shot
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I say we go after Carmelo
