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thats if they make the playoffs which they did... but for a short second.
still love my lakers
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& when Playoffs start, drop the Lites.
thats if they make the playoffs which they did... but for a short second.
still love my lakers
Nike Basketball is in disarray. There seems to be a contingent here that doesn't want me to say this, as the market is proving everything I say to be correct.
Reebok and Adidas are doing better? You seem to be basing most of your one sided opinions on sales....well why don't you take a look at thetop 100 selling basketball shoes of 2007 and see what percentage Nike has, and what percentage Adidas/Reebok has.
Basketball footwear as a whole is down....not just Nike. But market share is relatively the same.
I've never bought into that line of thinking. A shoe is a shoe, a good shoe is simply a good shoe, for any position, I reference the AdidasPro Model S, Gil Zeros and the Zoom BB's, and the Shox BB4 here. I firmly believe the Nike created the "guard shoe", myth, in order to create anew market, and then lessen the overall quality of their shoes.Originally Posted by DeezyVSOP
And in terms of performance and strictly performance, because of the design and goal of most of Lebron's shoes, I don't think you can really compare them to any other line. They're built for a physical freak of nature, while Kobe and Jordan were more traditional shooting guard shoes, LB's line can be worn by centers, guards, PF's, etc.
Yes...I...do! That was the beginning of the bull...Originally Posted by duke4005
Jack, remember Force vs. Flight? They knew what they were doing, even back then, and today just perpetuates the myth.
Not that I care but, WRONG! Adidas has gained a 12% marketshare in the past year. Read the Wall Steet Journal.Originally Posted by Rob Strongo
I agree that Nike Basketball is failing, but Adidas and Reebok are doing much worse.
DeezyVSOP wrote:
I hear what you're saying, I think Gil zeros are excellent basketball shoes but they definitely won't suit a lot of people and their styles of play.
Whose to say? 250 here, at 6"4. I play ALL positions these days, regardless of the shoe. I was taught as a point, then as I began liftingafter college, I got bigger, and bigger, and bigger, but I still played. I know how to play down low very well, and the Gil Zero suits me fine.
Now I HATED the ZL4...which was supposed to be for guys like me, as it was TOO heavy. That made no sense!
Wrong again! Market shares are not measured in that manner, as gains are indicators that you may not understand, dig?Originally Posted by Rob Strongo
I'm just talking about Adidas Basketball.
It was supposed to be 3 shoes, and it turned out to be ONE mediocre shoe
Kobe is a very good player in an NBA weakened through expansion.
WOW.
THIS is what it means to do your research instead of ranting ridiculously with criticism and no proof to back it up.Originally Posted by Rob Strongo
Nah I understand what it means, but the increase in the market share over the past year were mainly due the aquistion of Reebok whose market share was just around 12% when they were bought.
MenofOregon wrote:
Mister Jack, I'm not here to change your mind on anything. My company has more important things to do, along with myself. You're certainly entitled to your own OPINION, which is just that, YOUR OWN opinion. I'll just state the facts that mostly everyone is aware of and leave it at that.
FACTS:
We are a 16.3 billion dollar company for a reason. It's not by accident! That is certainly a heck of a lot of money to be saying we "suck". It is because we know how to capitalize on our key growth areas such as Nike Basketball. adidas basketball fails in comparison to Nike Basketball, PERIOD. adidas may be doing "well" as far as "their standards", but we'll always be ahead as far as revenue. Why? Because adidas does NOT know how to market their players very well, either overseas or here in the U.S. . adidas cannot generate any "buzz" whatsoever in the retail field like Nike can. No one stands in line for the next kevin garnett/tim duncan shoe, because quite frankly, there IS NO line for the release of their shoes. Their marketing department is poor along with very weak advertising campaigns. Take a look at the adidas basketball roster and take a look at Nike's roster. Pretty big difference there as far as marketability huh?
I know this guy makes it seem like all hell has broken loose and heads are gonna roll or as if Nike Basketball will be discontinuedIt dont even matter what this cat saids see you guys in the "Zoom Kobe VIIIflopped" Thread he will make here once again and claim its the worse shoe in history and people at Nike basketball are fools...
Originally Posted by chris chicago
of course, this is mostly b/c adidas passed on mj. lol.
Originally Posted by Mister Jack Johnson
Not that I care but, WRONG! Adidas has gained a 12% marketshare in the past year. Read the Wall Steet Journal.Originally Posted by Rob Strongo
I agree that Nike Basketball is failing, but Adidas and Reebok are doing much worse.