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From The Style O.G.
I wish The Godfather/The O.G. podcast would have happened.
I'm subscribed to this guy as well
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From The Style O.G.
I wish The Godfather/The O.G. podcast would have happened.
“That hasn’t stopped some Black men from immortalizing his teachings. But those men are mulish and still believe that Dr. Umar is going to open a school. So that’s on them. “
The Sadness of Kevin Samuels' Life and Death
The 57-year-old YouTube personality and former personal stylist has died. Unfortunately, his teachings will live on.www.huffpost.com
“That hasn’t stopped some Black men from immortalizing his teachings. But those men are mulish and still believe that Dr. Umar is going to open a school. So that’s on them. “
The Sadness of Kevin Samuels' Life and Death
The 57-year-old YouTube personality and former personal stylist has died. Unfortunately, his teachings will live on.www.huffpost.com
Didn't read the article but that's exactly what happened in that excerpt you posted, what's the issue?
there is a certain type of professionally black, college educated public intellectual/writer
who LOVES to **** on stuff that working class black people like.
agree or disagree with him
it's not at all perplexing or weird why people might want to call into his show.
but the professionally black writer is always charged up to tell you why popular black figure is "problematic"
and should be ejected from polite socitey.
Dude sounds like the type to grow up and become THIS type of father.
I wanted my son to reject masculine stereotypes. Then he fell in love with tractors All my life, I’ve prided myself on blurring gender lines. But when my young son started to gravitate toward the very things I’d shunned, I wasn’t sure what to do. - https://www.today.com/parents/essay/man-boxes-stereotypes-tractors-rcna25364
Didn't read the article but that's exactly what happened in that excerpt you posted, what's the issue?
at ascribing that to working class. You a fighter of the common man now?
"My son was born in Albany, New York, on the bedroom floor of the apartment I shared with my wife. Minutes after his arrival, we took turns cuddling him against our bare chests. While the midwife and her assistant cleaned up, my wife, always one to joke, even soon after giving birth, bragged that she had a connection to our new baby that I could never attain because men couldn’t bond with babies like women could."
"Her comment stabbed into me, but I feared she was right. To me, femininity was connected to empathy and kindness while masculinity equated to being frigid. Men didn’t hug. Men didn’t say I love you. Men were angry. Aggressive. Inept as parents. I became determined. I was going to create a bond stronger than any parent had ever achieved, but I told myself that to do so I needed to distance myself from anything deemed masculine."
"I immediately cut my hours at my social work gig, taking on the role of caregiving full time. It made sense because my wife made more money and I was accustomed to being around kids; it was what I did for a living. Every day I fed Avishai and cuddled him and soothed him. We co-slept, and he snoozed with his head resting on my chest, listening to the rhythm of my heartbeat. I began attending mommy-and-me playgroups and bristled when other caregivers made jokes about me providing daddy day care. I held resentment that so much of society acted as if dads couldn’t care for their kids (therefore putting pressure on women for the brunt of the caregiving) — but I too looked at dads that way. I shuddered at jokes about men being incapable of figuring out how to work a diaper, yet I felt most couldn’t. I became even more of an avid stereotyper: I grimaced at anyone driving a Ford car, the John Wayne of automobiles. I hated men who wore plaid. Felt ill if someone mentioned a wrench or another tool. When my mom-in-law bought Avishai a coverall with footballs on it, I shoved it into the depths of his closet, never to be found."
"I paraded him through the park while he rolled his baby doll down the sidewalk in its stroller," Deitcher writes.
BRUH!
I get it, I guess.im not "a fighter for the common man."
i am distinctly uncommon, weird person,
but even I can understand why many people like and call into kevin samuels show.
people call into sports radio shows, advice shows, relationship shows, everyday,
with all manor of eccentric hosts.
but when black people do it's pathologized into some bizarre masochistic ritual.
I think it's nasty.
I think there is absolutely a class element at play here.
it just seems to me when a popular black figure runs afoul of the medias political consensus,
there's always professionally black writer ready to go OD in a hit piece.
imo it just looks like a way to signal to white people. "im not one of those black people"
there is a certain type of professionally black, college educated public intellectual/writer
who LOVES to **** on stuff that working class black people like.
agree or disagree with him
it's not at all perplexing or weird why people might want to call into his show.
but the professionally black writer is always charged up to tell you why popular black figure is "problematic"
and should be ejected from polite socitey.
there is a certain type of professionally black, college educated public intellectual/writer
who LOVES to **** on stuff that working class black people like.
agree or disagree with him
it's not at all perplexing or weird why people might want to call into his show.
but the professionally black writer is always charged up to tell you why popular black figure is "problematic"
and should be ejected from polite socitey.
Here is the thing. There are many solid points as to why Kevin Samuels is wrong about certain things.
They are a lot of good faith issues to take with what he says beyond the basic life and dating advice.
For an example of this dynamic, I could write a post here about how he just repeats faulty conservative politics popular in the 90s, why some of the economic arguments he makes are just flat bad/weird/unconvincing, he is needlessly red-pillish misogynistic way he argues stuff, and people don't realize that he has a profit motive too. A lot of dudes happy about Samuels checking black women would turn around and be upset I dear try to do at dude like that. I know this because it has already happened You would see this dynamic repeated on a larger scale if it involved mainstream writers
A professional black writer should be allowed to point that out without an accusation of trying to appease white people in some way.
I don't think people like Umar and Samuels should be rejected from polite society. But I also feel people should be able to object to their rhetoric without the avalanche of criticism that they are trying to appease white people, or trying to tear down a black man. I just feel the most serious one are too business writing about way more important **** that Keven Samuels
So we are left with the goofballs
Yeah I'm saying, goofy or not can son do his job? Why are black writers somehow outside that protected class Osh is trying to defend? All of them can't be this figure people try to make them out to be as soon as they do the thing that pays their bills.A professional black writer should be allowed to point that out without an accusation of trying to appease white people in some way.
I don't think I made the claim that Kevin Samuels isn't good for black men or women. I said they are valid criticism to make with some of the things he saysIf Kevin Samuels isn’t good for black men and women, give an example of who is…..
I never needed dating or relationship advice so I have no dog in this fight. But for black men and women who need it…. Who’s a better example?
Here is the thing. There are many solid points as to why Kevin Samuels is wrong about certain things.
They are a lot of good faith issues to take with what he says beyond the basic life and dating advice.
For an example of this dynamic, I could write a post here about how he just repeats faulty conservative politics popular in the 90s, why some of the economic arguments he makes are just flat bad/weird/unconvincing, he is needlessly red-pillish misogynistic way he argues stuff, and people don't realize that he has a profit motive too. A lot of dudes happy about Samuels checking black women would turn around and be upset I dear try to do at dude like that. I know this because it has already happened You would see this dynamic repeated on a larger scale if it involved mainstream writers
A professional black writer should be allowed to point that out without an accusation of trying to appease white people in some way.
I don't think people like Umar and Samuels should be rejected from polite society. But I also feel people should be able to object to their rhetoric without the avalanche of criticism that they are trying to appease white people, or trying to tear down a black man. I just feel the most serious one are too business writing about way more important **** that Keven Samuels
So we are left with the goofballs
I understand why people are drawn to Samuels, even why women keep calling in
But once you keep past the basic innocuous dating/life advice, which would take a very short time to present, I am less convinced that is the draw for people to be watching dude for hours a week, for months going.
I think a lot of his fans understate the entertainment value and dopamine hit they get from dude antics
Elitist babble? Da ****
More of that elitist babble
Dopamine hits?? What, you a scientist now?Elitist babble? Da ****
How is that elitist
All I am saying his fans understate how much they enjoy what happens beyond the basic dating advice.
Elitist babble? Da ****
How is that elitist
All I am saying his fans understate how much they enjoy what happens beyond the basic dating advice.