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Originally Posted by Airupthere301
This should make EVERYONE happy.
Originally Posted by Airupthere301
This should make EVERYONE happy.
Originally Posted by Big J 33
Originally Posted by Rolaholic
How are white girls overrated on here? If anything it's those big booty girls that most of y'all drool over and call "thick" that are overrated as hell.
NT embraces any girl as long as she has a big booty and hates on girls with normal physiques
It's actually both.
In one corner, those who think any woman who is thick or not a size 4 is fat and ugly... usually they will also love "average" women with slimmer bodies. In the other corner, there are those who prefer thicker women, and their desire for mass and curves will be at a higher priority than those who prefer a pretty face and average/good body... this group also looks down on "average" women such as the girl in discussion in this thread.
Both sides complain that the other is wrong, when they're both wrong... and both right. Most people fail to realize that there's preference and beauty is in the eye of the beholder... and while that's cliche, it does apply to the standard NT debate about who is attractive and who isn't. The problem becomes when you address your "preference" and standard of beauty is just a social construct which is a result of your culture, societal upbringings, and experiences. So what happens on here is those who prefer thicker women, react towards any praise and attention given to slim, white women as NTers simply buying into white America's standard of beauty and that woman HAS to be average and unworthy of praise. On the flip side, many who favor women such as Kate Upton primarily, do not find thicker women with curves attractive because they're raised to believe they're ugly or somehow abnormal, since they don't fit into the standard expectations of beauty and attractiveness.
Which touches on your last comment, "normal" physiques. "Normal" is subjective, and for the most part a social construct... so when you (and I'm not attacking you personally at all) claim someone falls under the "normal" category, it automatically subjects others who don't as "abnormal". Obviously that can be problematic and is a major reason for the "whitening" of non-white women and the issues within minority communities about trying to fit in to the "American" standard of beauty... but that's another issue, although very related.
Also, when people claim "I see women that look better than here on a daily basis", I don't doubt that (although I'm sure they're exaggerating at times), that doesn't change the fact that those women are still in the minority of ALL women. For the most part, the supermodels/models/etc and other women on here who get attention are NOT average whatsoever. If you go to your local supermarket, church, mall, school, whatever, the average girl will not look like Kate Upton at all. That doesn't mean you don't see plenty of women who look as good or better than Upton, but if she was average, then the majority of women would look like her and that isn't the case. Nothing separates supermodels or those voted "most beautiful" from a regular woman who isn't famous, many things go into being in the select group of SI swimsuit models or Victoria Secret models, it's not as if they based their choices on a scientific study of billions of women.
In the end it's incredibly pointless to argue back and forth about what you believe is attractive because it's all subjective. Women of all shapes, colors, sizes, are beautiful and worthy of praise... the problem becomes when people fail to recognize their own pre-conceived and socially constructed views of beauty that are influenced by your environment and society (which applies to both camps). Rather than simply appreciate women of all types and their beauty, people on here spend so much time trying to put down and degrade other women simply because they don't find them attractive, spend less time on the negative and more on the positive in life and we'll all be better.
Yeah I wrote a lot, but consider it my final answer for any past, present, and future threads on women. File it in the NT reference book for me
Originally Posted by Big J 33
Originally Posted by Rolaholic
How are white girls overrated on here? If anything it's those big booty girls that most of y'all drool over and call "thick" that are overrated as hell.
NT embraces any girl as long as she has a big booty and hates on girls with normal physiques
It's actually both.
In one corner, those who think any woman who is thick or not a size 4 is fat and ugly... usually they will also love "average" women with slimmer bodies. In the other corner, there are those who prefer thicker women, and their desire for mass and curves will be at a higher priority than those who prefer a pretty face and average/good body... this group also looks down on "average" women such as the girl in discussion in this thread.
Both sides complain that the other is wrong, when they're both wrong... and both right. Most people fail to realize that there's preference and beauty is in the eye of the beholder... and while that's cliche, it does apply to the standard NT debate about who is attractive and who isn't. The problem becomes when you address your "preference" and standard of beauty is just a social construct which is a result of your culture, societal upbringings, and experiences. So what happens on here is those who prefer thicker women, react towards any praise and attention given to slim, white women as NTers simply buying into white America's standard of beauty and that woman HAS to be average and unworthy of praise. On the flip side, many who favor women such as Kate Upton primarily, do not find thicker women with curves attractive because they're raised to believe they're ugly or somehow abnormal, since they don't fit into the standard expectations of beauty and attractiveness.
Which touches on your last comment, "normal" physiques. "Normal" is subjective, and for the most part a social construct... so when you (and I'm not attacking you personally at all) claim someone falls under the "normal" category, it automatically subjects others who don't as "abnormal". Obviously that can be problematic and is a major reason for the "whitening" of non-white women and the issues within minority communities about trying to fit in to the "American" standard of beauty... but that's another issue, although very related.
Also, when people claim "I see women that look better than here on a daily basis", I don't doubt that (although I'm sure they're exaggerating at times), that doesn't change the fact that those women are still in the minority of ALL women. For the most part, the supermodels/models/etc and other women on here who get attention are NOT average whatsoever. If you go to your local supermarket, church, mall, school, whatever, the average girl will not look like Kate Upton at all. That doesn't mean you don't see plenty of women who look as good or better than Upton, but if she was average, then the majority of women would look like her and that isn't the case. Nothing separates supermodels or those voted "most beautiful" from a regular woman who isn't famous, many things go into being in the select group of SI swimsuit models or Victoria Secret models, it's not as if they based their choices on a scientific study of billions of women.
In the end it's incredibly pointless to argue back and forth about what you believe is attractive because it's all subjective. Women of all shapes, colors, sizes, are beautiful and worthy of praise... the problem becomes when people fail to recognize their own pre-conceived and socially constructed views of beauty that are influenced by your environment and society (which applies to both camps). Rather than simply appreciate women of all types and their beauty, people on here spend so much time trying to put down and degrade other women simply because they don't find them attractive, spend less time on the negative and more on the positive in life and we'll all be better.
Yeah I wrote a lot, but consider it my final answer for any past, present, and future threads on women. File it in the NT reference book for me
good golly...i'd hit until it fell off.Originally Posted by IHeartBoost
Why are we talking her rack away? I don't get when people say, "take [insert body part] away", yeah, you suspect. Also just cause YOU see better looking girls around doesn't discredit this female. It's always the NTers that say "I see better looking chicks than Halle Berry, Kim Kardashian, Beyonce" doesnt mean a %###%+* thing cuz those chicks are still dope.Originally Posted by Sloane Kettering
Take the rack away, she has no body WHATSOEVER...she's cute but she def. isn't bad...i see better white girls walking around, soho, park slope, and williamsburg....this gif doesn't disprove anythingOriginally Posted by Fade On You
Wait though...SHE'S AVERAGE.
good golly...i'd hit until it fell off.Originally Posted by IHeartBoost
Why are we talking her rack away? I don't get when people say, "take [insert body part] away", yeah, you suspect. Also just cause YOU see better looking girls around doesn't discredit this female. It's always the NTers that say "I see better looking chicks than Halle Berry, Kim Kardashian, Beyonce" doesnt mean a %###%+* thing cuz those chicks are still dope.Originally Posted by Sloane Kettering
Take the rack away, she has no body WHATSOEVER...she's cute but she def. isn't bad...i see better white girls walking around, soho, park slope, and williamsburg....this gif doesn't disprove anythingOriginally Posted by Fade On You
Wait though...SHE'S AVERAGE.