Jordan his Airness, says he can score 100 points in NBA today.

[anthony stark]

Originally Posted by TennHouse2

Originally Posted by Anthony Stark

Originally Posted by TennHouse2

The 1990 Cavs gave up 104 ppg

2006 Raptors gave up 99 ppg

so people please stop this argument about better and rougher defenses...they scored way more points in Jordan's day because of more possessions and lack of a zone defense

I hope you're not trying to say that the 2006 Raptors were better defensively than the 1990 Cavs just because of the PPG.

Especially after you admitted that more points were scored in the Jordan Era due to more possessions and lack of a zone defense.

no what im rebutting are the people saying that what Kobe did wasent as impressive because he did it against "one of the wackest defenses in the league" and Jordan did it against Cavs who was "one of the best gefenses in the league" but then just ignore how much more points a game the teams back then gave up


The "wackest defense" in 2006 still held teams less then one of the best defenses in 1990...not because im saying there a better defense but there were other factors that made it easier for players back then to put up more points

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[hollywood james 6]

The funny thing is, nobody will know for sure. And all this is speculation.

 

[hollywood james 6]

The funny thing is, nobody will know for sure. And all this is speculation.

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

go through this post from first page to last and almost every laker fan is doubting/hating on mike

these laker fans feel threatened because they know kobe can never be mike

kobe knows it too

 and look at these weak ##% big men in the game today that are unstoppable

al jefferson
kevin love
chris kaman

no one in the league today can guard them down lown

they would not have done this 10-15 years ago






and then all the soft ##% euro-trash players would get bodied


rudy fernandez

look at how many euros are in the league,they make up a big portion.

in the 90's there were players who could shoot just as good as these guys,but were more athletic and played more physical






its young kids and the idiot laker fans that need to quit commenting on the nba. (theres is a few intelligent laker fans out there)

you guys are wasting bandwithd

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

go through this post from first page to last and almost every laker fan is doubting/hating on mike

these laker fans feel threatened because they know kobe can never be mike

kobe knows it too

 and look at these weak ##% big men in the game today that are unstoppable

al jefferson
kevin love
chris kaman

no one in the league today can guard them down lown

they would not have done this 10-15 years ago






and then all the soft ##% euro-trash players would get bodied


rudy fernandez

look at how many euros are in the league,they make up a big portion.

in the 90's there were players who could shoot just as good as these guys,but were more athletic and played more physical






its young kids and the idiot laker fans that need to quit commenting on the nba. (theres is a few intelligent laker fans out there)

you guys are wasting bandwithd

 

[Betonblck]

Originally Posted by Informerx

Originally Posted by cguy610

Originally Posted by Murda He

A lot of ya'll are just plain simple minded...

... Jordan would NOT score 100 points.

Kornheiser brought up a couple good points on PTI:



1. Jordan didn't shoot threes like Kobe does, and in order for a guard to put up that many points, he'd have to go off from out there. It just wasn't his style. Kobe hit 7 threes in his 81 point game.

2. Also, a guard like Jordan isn't going to get anything easy around the rim, such as put backs off of misses, which is what a guy like Wilt could do all night long



And then, even though defense is softer, you can still zone up and double team him and make everyone else beat you. No team is going to just let someone score 100.

PERIOD. Some of ya'll are just plain irrational... talking bout 25 a quarter is easy

.... it's 100 WHOLE points... ya'll slay me

... as easy as ya'll make 100 sound, why hasn't kobe repeated 81 already? Why hasn't lebron/wade dropped 80 (sometimey %%% jumpers that's why)? Why didn't T-Mac do it on them empty %%% Magic rosters... it's just 80. THAT'S why MJ ain't scoring 100 cuz it's actually *NOT* easy

. @*%$ outta here mike. He didn't even score 70 (like 70 is easy). Ya'll are a trip. The only other person in our time that could have almost put up 100 was Shaq, but he'd never have hit the necessary free throws (so he never even ALMOST did it). Man, you gotta have a TON of offensive rebounds, A TON of HIGH PERCENTAGE SHOTS around the rim, and 2 tons of free throws to put up 100 points. None of that fade away or dribble drive %*** is gonna get you passed 85 (or 69 apparently, if you ain't got a three ball).. too many misses...too much energy expended.

Dude, scoring 63 in a playoff game against one of the top defenses is almost like scoring 100 in a regular season game against one of the worst teams.

Why wouldn't a prime MJ be able to drop 100 against a bum team with today's rules?  Also, you acting like Kobe made 15-20 threes, he made 7 threes, which is a total of 7 extra points.  Give me a break man. 

Edited: Meant to say 63

Kill yerself.
Ok, let's put it like this, if Kobe said he could drop 100 in a game, I would say that it's possible.  (or even Lebron)

Who's a better scorer, a prime MJ or a prime Kobe?

 

[Betonblck]

Originally Posted by Informerx

Originally Posted by cguy610

Originally Posted by Murda He

A lot of ya'll are just plain simple minded...

... Jordan would NOT score 100 points.

Kornheiser brought up a couple good points on PTI:



1. Jordan didn't shoot threes like Kobe does, and in order for a guard to put up that many points, he'd have to go off from out there. It just wasn't his style. Kobe hit 7 threes in his 81 point game.

2. Also, a guard like Jordan isn't going to get anything easy around the rim, such as put backs off of misses, which is what a guy like Wilt could do all night long



And then, even though defense is softer, you can still zone up and double team him and make everyone else beat you. No team is going to just let someone score 100.

PERIOD. Some of ya'll are just plain irrational... talking bout 25 a quarter is easy

.... it's 100 WHOLE points... ya'll slay me

... as easy as ya'll make 100 sound, why hasn't kobe repeated 81 already? Why hasn't lebron/wade dropped 80 (sometimey %%% jumpers that's why)? Why didn't T-Mac do it on them empty %%% Magic rosters... it's just 80. THAT'S why MJ ain't scoring 100 cuz it's actually *NOT* easy

. @*%$ outta here mike. He didn't even score 70 (like 70 is easy). Ya'll are a trip. The only other person in our time that could have almost put up 100 was Shaq, but he'd never have hit the necessary free throws (so he never even ALMOST did it). Man, you gotta have a TON of offensive rebounds, A TON of HIGH PERCENTAGE SHOTS around the rim, and 2 tons of free throws to put up 100 points. None of that fade away or dribble drive %*** is gonna get you passed 85 (or 69 apparently, if you ain't got a three ball).. too many misses...too much energy expended.

Dude, scoring 63 in a playoff game against one of the top defenses is almost like scoring 100 in a regular season game against one of the worst teams.

Why wouldn't a prime MJ be able to drop 100 against a bum team with today's rules?  Also, you acting like Kobe made 15-20 threes, he made 7 threes, which is a total of 7 extra points.  Give me a break man. 

Edited: Meant to say 63

Kill yerself.
Ok, let's put it like this, if Kobe said he could drop 100 in a game, I would say that it's possible.  (or even Lebron)

Who's a better scorer, a prime MJ or a prime Kobe?

 

[tennhouse2]

Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules

 


go through this post from first page to last and almost every laker fan is doubting/hating on mike

these laker fans feel threatened because they know kobe can never be mike

kobe knows it too

�and look at these weak ##% big men in the game today that are unstoppable

al jefferson
kevin love
chris kaman

no one in the league today can guard them down lown

they would not have done this 10-15 years ago






and then all the soft ##% euro-trash players would get bodied


rudy fernandez

look at how many euros are in the league,they make up a big portion.

in the 90's there were players who could shoot just as good as these guys,but were more athletic and played more physical






its young kids and the idiot laker fans that need to quit commenting on the nba. (theres is a few intelligent laker fans out there)

you guys are wasting bandwithd

How is it Hating to not think he could score 100 pts in a game? no one is taking anything away from Jordan as a player, no one is saying hes not great. We just think that 100 pts in a game is a reach...people call anything hate now-a-days...and trust me its more then just laker fans


Al Jefferson, Kevin Love, Chris Kamen.....unstoppable 

    

   When did this happen?


and as for the euro players The fact that they had more athletic players then the euros that are playing now doesent matter because there are more athletic players then them now. There not in the league because of there athleticsm, there in the league because of there fundimentils that where never taught better here in any generation.

 

[tennhouse2]

Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules

 


go through this post from first page to last and almost every laker fan is doubting/hating on mike

these laker fans feel threatened because they know kobe can never be mike

kobe knows it too

�and look at these weak ##% big men in the game today that are unstoppable

al jefferson
kevin love
chris kaman

no one in the league today can guard them down lown

they would not have done this 10-15 years ago






and then all the soft ##% euro-trash players would get bodied


rudy fernandez

look at how many euros are in the league,they make up a big portion.

in the 90's there were players who could shoot just as good as these guys,but were more athletic and played more physical






its young kids and the idiot laker fans that need to quit commenting on the nba. (theres is a few intelligent laker fans out there)

you guys are wasting bandwithd

How is it Hating to not think he could score 100 pts in a game? no one is taking anything away from Jordan as a player, no one is saying hes not great. We just think that 100 pts in a game is a reach...people call anything hate now-a-days...and trust me its more then just laker fans


Al Jefferson, Kevin Love, Chris Kamen.....unstoppable 

    

   When did this happen?


and as for the euro players The fact that they had more athletic players then the euros that are playing now doesent matter because there are more athletic players then them now. There not in the league because of there athleticsm, there in the league because of there fundimentils that where never taught better here in any generation.

 

[Humbled]

Originally Posted by AJIIIpLATINum

Originally Posted by itsaboutthattime

Originally Posted by AJIIIpLATINum

I think these five (2000-2010 MVP Award Team)  in their prime could take on any other eras five (MVP Award Team) in their prime.

Kobe would have to play forward here

or i would have to remove nash and put in Nowitzki as forward

or make duncan forward and add Shaq

. 

  

BTW i was born in 1984  

pg: stockton
sg: jordan
sf: pippen
pf: hakeem (we need to go bigger against duncant)
c: robinson (like him starting out against shaq better than ewing)

bench: barkley, ewing, malone, gary payton, reggie miller, young shaq, chris webber, young jason kidd, shawn kemp and a healthy grant hill

that would be my 15 from the 90s

we get a bench????

I guess then Wade, Chris Paul, Howard, Stoudamire, McGrady, Garnett, Carmelo, and Durant.   
  

90s team would straight BODY that 2000s team...Come on now.

 

[Humbled]

Originally Posted by AJIIIpLATINum

Originally Posted by itsaboutthattime

Originally Posted by AJIIIpLATINum

I think these five (2000-2010 MVP Award Team)  in their prime could take on any other eras five (MVP Award Team) in their prime.

Kobe would have to play forward here

or i would have to remove nash and put in Nowitzki as forward

or make duncan forward and add Shaq

. 

  

BTW i was born in 1984  

pg: stockton
sg: jordan
sf: pippen
pf: hakeem (we need to go bigger against duncant)
c: robinson (like him starting out against shaq better than ewing)

bench: barkley, ewing, malone, gary payton, reggie miller, young shaq, chris webber, young jason kidd, shawn kemp and a healthy grant hill

that would be my 15 from the 90s

we get a bench????

I guess then Wade, Chris Paul, Howard, Stoudamire, McGrady, Garnett, Carmelo, and Durant.   
  

90s team would straight BODY that 2000s team...Come on now.

 

[kobe8is]

Girl thats Jules wrote:

---

go through this post from first page to last and almost every laker fan is doubting/hating on mike

these laker fans feel threatened because they know kobe can never be mike

kobe knows it too

�and look at these weak ##% big men in the game today that are unstoppable

al jefferson
kevin love
chris kaman

no one in the league today can guard them down lown

they would not have done this 10-15 years ago






and then all the soft ##% euro-trash players would get bodied


rudy fernandez

look at how many euros are in the league,they make up a big portion.

in the 90's there were players who could shoot just as good as these guys,but were more athletic and played more physical






its young kids and the idiot laker fans that need to quit commenting on the nba. (theres is a few intelligent laker fans out there)

you guys are wasting bandwithd







This is 2 funny!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kobe8is]

Girl thats Jules wrote:

---

go through this post from first page to last and almost every laker fan is doubting/hating on mike

these laker fans feel threatened because they know kobe can never be mike

kobe knows it too

�and look at these weak ##% big men in the game today that are unstoppable

al jefferson
kevin love
chris kaman

no one in the league today can guard them down lown

they would not have done this 10-15 years ago






and then all the soft ##% euro-trash players would get bodied


rudy fernandez

look at how many euros are in the league,they make up a big portion.

in the 90's there were players who could shoot just as good as these guys,but were more athletic and played more physical






its young kids and the idiot laker fans that need to quit commenting on the nba. (theres is a few intelligent laker fans out there)

you guys are wasting bandwithd







This is 2 funny!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

Originally Posted by TennHouse2

Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules

 


go through this post from first page to last and almost every laker fan is doubting/hating on mike

these laker fans feel threatened because they know kobe can never be mike

kobe knows it too

�and look at these weak ##% big men in the game today that are unstoppable

al jefferson
kevin love
chris kaman

no one in the league today can guard them down lown

they would not have done this 10-15 years ago






and then all the soft ##% euro-trash players would get bodied


rudy fernandez

look at how many euros are in the league,they make up a big portion.

in the 90's there were players who could shoot just as good as these guys,but were more athletic and played more physical






its young kids and the idiot laker fans that need to quit commenting on the nba. (theres is a few intelligent laker fans out there)

you guys are wasting bandwithd

How is it Hating to not think he could score 100 pts in a game? no one is taking anything away from Jordan as a player, no one is saying hes not great. We just think that 100 pts in a game is a reach...people call anything hate now-a-days...and trust me its more then just laker fans


Al Jefferson, Kevin Love, Chris Kamen.....unstoppable 

    

   When did this happen?


and as for the euro players The fact that they had more athletic players then the euros that are playing now doesent matter because there are more athletic players then them now. There not in the league because of there athleticsm, there in the league because of there fundimentils that where never taught better here in any generation.

who can stop these guys in the post? without a double team?

post all their stats and tell me they dont have good to great numbers.




and how are the players today more athletic?

do you have proof?

human beings have not physically evolved in the last 15 years, that takes millions of years.

todays plaers arent doin anything thats the players in the 90's werent.



dumb

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

Originally Posted by TennHouse2

Originally Posted by Girl thats Jules

 


go through this post from first page to last and almost every laker fan is doubting/hating on mike

these laker fans feel threatened because they know kobe can never be mike

kobe knows it too

�and look at these weak ##% big men in the game today that are unstoppable

al jefferson
kevin love
chris kaman

no one in the league today can guard them down lown

they would not have done this 10-15 years ago






and then all the soft ##% euro-trash players would get bodied


rudy fernandez

look at how many euros are in the league,they make up a big portion.

in the 90's there were players who could shoot just as good as these guys,but were more athletic and played more physical






its young kids and the idiot laker fans that need to quit commenting on the nba. (theres is a few intelligent laker fans out there)

you guys are wasting bandwithd

How is it Hating to not think he could score 100 pts in a game? no one is taking anything away from Jordan as a player, no one is saying hes not great. We just think that 100 pts in a game is a reach...people call anything hate now-a-days...and trust me its more then just laker fans


Al Jefferson, Kevin Love, Chris Kamen.....unstoppable 

    

   When did this happen?


and as for the euro players The fact that they had more athletic players then the euros that are playing now doesent matter because there are more athletic players then them now. There not in the league because of there athleticsm, there in the league because of there fundimentils that where never taught better here in any generation.

who can stop these guys in the post? without a double team?

post all their stats and tell me they dont have good to great numbers.




and how are the players today more athletic?

do you have proof?

human beings have not physically evolved in the last 15 years, that takes millions of years.

todays plaers arent doin anything thats the players in the 90's werent.



dumb

 

[fatal lightning]

chris kaman is actually a solid center, he's better than people give him credit for. he might even be better than andrew bynum.

but anyways, people forget that basketball is a team game, and if pippen would average at least 20 ppg then the bulls have to avg. at least 120 points in a game, also adding the ppg of other players. their scoring avg might take a dip that night, but no way jordan can score 100 in a team offense.

people act like jordan is invincible, and i say he's the greatest ever. i dont think he is in my opinion, like i said before there are so many other greats. it would be insulting to say that jordan is the greatest ever.

im not denying that mike was an amazing and awesome player. but it took him at least 6 or 7 years before getting to the finals, after getting beat up by detroit for a few years straight. so he didnt dominate during his entire career. yeah he can score as many points as he wants, but this is still a team game.

and no im not younger than 21 and i have seen mike play. so dont tell me that i dont know what im talking about.

jordan had a great offensive arsenal in his prime, but i think kobe is more far ahead when it comes to offensive weapons in their prime. it wasnt until later in his career that mike started to work on his mid range game. and that is something that kobe depends on more. because mike was better at going to the rim and dunking on people. so i think kobe's offensive game is better than jordans.

people say jordan avg. 37 ppg, but bryant avg. 35,4 in '05-'06

 

[fatal lightning]

chris kaman is actually a solid center, he's better than people give him credit for. he might even be better than andrew bynum.

but anyways, people forget that basketball is a team game, and if pippen would average at least 20 ppg then the bulls have to avg. at least 120 points in a game, also adding the ppg of other players. their scoring avg might take a dip that night, but no way jordan can score 100 in a team offense.

people act like jordan is invincible, and i say he's the greatest ever. i dont think he is in my opinion, like i said before there are so many other greats. it would be insulting to say that jordan is the greatest ever.

im not denying that mike was an amazing and awesome player. but it took him at least 6 or 7 years before getting to the finals, after getting beat up by detroit for a few years straight. so he didnt dominate during his entire career. yeah he can score as many points as he wants, but this is still a team game.

and no im not younger than 21 and i have seen mike play. so dont tell me that i dont know what im talking about.

jordan had a great offensive arsenal in his prime, but i think kobe is more far ahead when it comes to offensive weapons in their prime. it wasnt until later in his career that mike started to work on his mid range game. and that is something that kobe depends on more. because mike was better at going to the rim and dunking on people. so i think kobe's offensive game is better than jordans.

people say jordan avg. 37 ppg, but bryant avg. 35,4 in '05-'06

 

[Betonblck]

^ That's poppycock. There is no objective measure that you can point to that proves Kobe has a better offensive game than Jordan. Why is Kobe's field goal percentage WAAYYYYY lower than Jordan's?

Statements like that make me think you are a Kobe stan. I bet that by your logic, Patrick Ewing has a better offensive game than Shaq.

 

[Betonblck]

^ That's poppycock. There is no objective measure that you can point to that proves Kobe has a better offensive game than Jordan. Why is Kobe's field goal percentage WAAYYYYY lower than Jordan's?

Statements like that make me think you are a Kobe stan. I bet that by your logic, Patrick Ewing has a better offensive game than Shaq.

 

[JD617]

Originally Posted by Fatal Lightning

I don't know where you came from but all 63 of your posts have been awful.

 

[JD617]

Originally Posted by Fatal Lightning

I don't know where you came from but all 63 of your posts have been awful.

 

[fatal lightning]

Originally Posted by cguy610

^ That's poppycock. There is no objective measure that you can point to that proves Kobe has a better offensive game than Jordan. Why is Kobe's field goal percentage WAAYYYYY lower than Jordan's?

Statements like that make me think you are a Kobe stan. I bet that by your logic, Patrick Ewing has a better offensive game than Shaq.

why jordan's field goal percentage is waaay higher than kobe? cause jordan went to the rim more, dunking and not shooting jumpers.

then tell me what jordan had in his offensive game when he was in his prime? his post up game came later on in his career. i dont consider '96-97 his prime. didnt shoot threes at all until later, his jumper was shaky. fade away also came later on in his career.

 

[fatal lightning]

Originally Posted by cguy610

^ That's poppycock. There is no objective measure that you can point to that proves Kobe has a better offensive game than Jordan. Why is Kobe's field goal percentage WAAYYYYY lower than Jordan's?

Statements like that make me think you are a Kobe stan. I bet that by your logic, Patrick Ewing has a better offensive game than Shaq.

why jordan's field goal percentage is waaay higher than kobe? cause jordan went to the rim more, dunking and not shooting jumpers.

then tell me what jordan had in his offensive game when he was in his prime? his post up game came later on in his career. i dont consider '96-97 his prime. didnt shoot threes at all until later, his jumper was shaky. fade away also came later on in his career.

 

[fatal lightning]

Originally Posted by Fatal Lightning

Originally Posted by cguy610

^ That's poppycock. There is no objective measure that you can point to that proves Kobe has a better offensive game than Jordan. Why is Kobe's field goal percentage WAAYYYYY lower than Jordan's?

Statements like that make me think you are a Kobe stan. I bet that by your logic, Patrick Ewing has a better offensive game than Shaq.

why jordan's field goal percentage is waaay higher than kobe? cause jordan went to the rim more, dunking and not shooting jumpers.

then tell me what jordan had in his offensive game when he was in his prime that kobe didnt have? his post up game came later on in his career. i dont consider '96-97 his prime. didnt shoot threes at all until later, his jumper was shaky. fade away also came later on in his career.

 

[fatal lightning]

Originally Posted by Fatal Lightning

Originally Posted by cguy610

^ That's poppycock. There is no objective measure that you can point to that proves Kobe has a better offensive game than Jordan. Why is Kobe's field goal percentage WAAYYYYY lower than Jordan's?

Statements like that make me think you are a Kobe stan. I bet that by your logic, Patrick Ewing has a better offensive game than Shaq.

why jordan's field goal percentage is waaay higher than kobe? cause jordan went to the rim more, dunking and not shooting jumpers.

then tell me what jordan had in his offensive game when he was in his prime that kobe didnt have? his post up game came later on in his career. i dont consider '96-97 his prime. didnt shoot threes at all until later, his jumper was shaky. fade away also came later on in his career.