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Good explanation for all of the ignorant NTers RockDeep
Those III's were and will always be fake...
Those III's were and will always be fake...
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Sorry for not using the official Quote tool.. BUT...
Your reading Comprehension needs ALOT of improvement. If you need Eyes to elaborate on his comments so be it.
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Good explanation for all of the ignorant NTers RockDeep
Refer to seasoned vets post and my explanation and then make a foregone conclusion.
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I know for a fact that MANY people registered ON NT and that visit here assist the Variant Market Directly and Indirectly...
I was NEVER going to make this publicly known...but I guess I'll just say it. About a year ago I received an unusual inbox. It was basically a job offer from a fake manufacturer offering to pay me a few hundred $ a month in exchange for telling them what design cues to alter, what colorways would be hot/actually releasing and other arrangements to help increase their business of producing variant footwear.
I didn't hesitate for a SECOND to reject this offer.
Sure, I'm in college working 20 hours a week, the money definitely would've helped, and I could have easily done what they were asking.
I just couldn't do it, and help the other side.
Now...are there other NTers out there who got the same email and indeed are still actively helping out them? Possibly. Probably. Profitably.
Just something I felt compelled to share after catching Rock's line....cause I can confirm to my knowledge that there's at the least been efforts by companies to use the knowledge and expertise of NTers to help themselves out.
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Wow.....I'm speechless
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I buy what I like...and when something like this Shirt Fiasco happens.. I am merely disappointed, but I don't lose sleep. They are a business.
Thats why they are a business. Some will figure that out when they actually work for a living....and not to buy kicks.
I just don't understand it when someone like yourself (RockDeep) who Im sure has plenty of knowledge and experience in the shoe "game" can "not lose sleep" like you said over something like this.
That's what bothers me. Not the fact that Jordan Brand doesn't care about ME and US as consumers, but the fact that they don't care about AIR JORDANS. They have seemed to forget what AIR JORDANS used to stand for, what Michael used/will stand for.
How can I NOT "lose sleep" over something like this? AIR JORDANS mean a lot to me, and when the "legitimate" company that is responsible for them gives up (which is what they are doing right now) on their own products I have nothing else left to do but "lose sleep".
What does an AIR JORDAN stand for right now?
Because to me all it stands for is disrespect. Disrespect for Michael Jordan, disrespect for Tinker Hatfield, disrespect for us "true" fans, and most importantly disrespect for the Air Jordan shoes and what they to stand for.
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How can I NOT "lose sleep" over something like this?
Umm because hopefully there are plenty of more important things in your life to care about?
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Dude (Rockdeep) wears a fake shoe to test them and report all the time...
For the... special folks...
Why wear? To test it (comparing to exact authentic version).
Why test it? To report it.
Report to who? (Okay... people can't be this special... lol). Report to the companies making the authentic products, so they can be aware and educated, among numerous other things. JB had the "light message" on the XXIs for a reason...
Case closed...
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How can I NOT "lose sleep" over something like this?
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Umm because hopefully there are plenty of more important things in your life to care about?
There are.
I didn't mean it literally. That's why I put quotation marks around the term.
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Because to me all it stands for is disrespect. Disrespect for Michael Jordan, disrespect for Tinker Hatfield, disrespect for us "true" fans, and most importantly disrespect for the Air Jordan shoes and what they used to stand for.
Okay, now see youre just OD'ing right now. You're acting like someone came in and killed your family man. Come on. Yes, it is wack that JB is indirectly promoting fakes on their merchandise, yes it is bad that now "legit" JB customers have to wonder if they are buying real or memorex from the local Foot Locker, but come on, youre acting like MJ cares about you. We like the shoes, but we dont "love" the shoes like that now (some of y'all, I dont know, y'all ninjas be treating your Mikes better than a lot of parents treat their kids).
Seriously sit down and think to yourself...what exactly did the Air Jordan line used to stand for? Yes, the designs were groundbreaking, the colors were bold and at the time, considered "risque," but how many people could honestly afford Jordans back then. In the mid/late 80's, & early 90's when money was not as attainable as it is now, how many parents could honestly afford to buy their kids the Jordans they wanted. And, its not like they were affordable as a pair of Reeboks, or Elessee's, or whatever sneaker other kids were wearing back then. Jordans were at that time, "ridiculously expensive." Nowadays, $125 for a shoe aint nothing, but back then, how many people can honestly admit that their parents would jump up and say that they had 99 million better things to do with that $125 than make some guy who is already rich, even richer?
What did Jordans used to stand for? Turning on the 10 o'clock news hearing how some kid got murdered in cold blood wearing his new cement grey 4's? People getting shot for stepping on someones fire reds? Muggings left and right? Innocent young children getting mugged and jumped, just because some piece of trash could not afford to pay $125 for a sneaker? People had to scrimp, save, fight to get every last penny to buy them shoes. And a lot of time, barely had the money to cover the tax on them. Is that what Jordans used to stand for? Then when asked about the situation, all MJ could say is that it is a terrible tragedy.
How many people are "true" fans? Just because you been buying the shoes for a long time, and seen him bust the Knicks @#%$ everytime, a true fan it does not make you. How many people remember the media saying that at most he would be a top 25 player in the league. Not someone who changed the game, the stats sheets, not to mention the rules...forever. He changed the way the game was played. Or that the media pretty much cursed his name and dogged him for being "selfish" because he put up god - like numbers and his teams didn't amount to @#%$?
Yes, the counterfeit/variant game is quickly rising, at a very alarming pace, but the best way for us to fight it, is to not buy it. Before you buy something from that mom and pop shop, or from eBay, check it out throughly. It costs less to make a counterfeit shoe, than it does to make an actual one. So if you get taken for a ride on eBay where someone says they have "new DS retro Space Jams" for $350 and they look real, but are actually fake, that $350 can produce a whole back wall of fake Jordans at the Flight Club (those who been there know what I am talking about). Stop the finger pointing because it is useless. What will e-blaming someone do? The variant makers are laughing at us. We need to take concern about whether or not, the next pair of Jordans we pick up in Footaction is real or not...
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They wrote the wrong date on the DMP box
Just so everybody knows: The date was WRONG EVERYWHERE IN THE PACKAGE.
1. Wrong date on the DMP box
2. Wrong date on the XI dogtag
3. Wrong date on the booklet that came with it.
The just have no clue whatsoever. And it's ironic how they PREACH about being Authentic.
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Just so everybody knows: The date was WRONG EVERYWHERE IN THE PACKAGE.
Forgot to mention those!!! thanks. My point is that JB is Is braking my heart and my bank!! I don't know If I should quit?? I have never thought about it!! Quitting uuuuummmmmmmmm!!!???? Nah!:\
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We like the shoes, but we dont "love" the shoes like that now
That is the difference. There are people who like the shoes because of what they meant to them at some point in their lives, but there are others that love the shoes. They love the actual shoes, the designs, the inspirations, the marketing, the memories, everything.
I am not someone who buys every release to say i'm a "true collector". I'm not someone who buys into the hype. I'm not a reseller. I'm a person who appreciates the actual shoes, and has a deep love for footwear. I haven't bought an Air Jordan since the XIV's, and don't plan on doing it again anytime soon. I am just very dissapointed with this whole era of Jordan Brand, that's all.