John Wall is eligible for this year's NBA draft?

[shabooyah1124]

Originally Posted by Jalrulz

can this guy even shoot? all i see are nice takes to the rack.

He doesn't have the most consistent jumper, but he can wet when he's open. Plus jumpers can develop.

 

[scottsauce88]

1. Wow. Youre acting like theres a huge risk for an injury. How many athletes have went to college for that year and were seriously injured? None.
your seriously saying that there has never been an athlete that has went to college for a year and gotten injured? Wow

 

[dajoka004]

Sounds like he's eligible to me.

When the money is there, you have to go. There's nothing more I hate than "the money will be there next year". Do you realize how much a one yeardifference makes when it comes to investments? Especially ones a large as you have the chance to make as a pro athlete.

 

[elpablo21]

Originally Posted by Scottsauce88

1. Wow. Youre acting like theres a huge risk for an injury. How many athletes have went to college for that year and were seriously injured? None.

your seriously saying that there has never been an athlete that has went to college for a year and gotten injured? Wow

Not sure that's what he was claiming but since this rule has been implemented the majority of one and done kids havent had any seriousinjuries

 

[durden7]

your seriously saying that there has never been an athlete that has went to college for a year and gotten injured? Wow

Name me a top level high school talent who went to college for a year and was so seriously injured that he destroyed his stock/chances in thepros.

Are you seriously ******ed?

So now a top 3 pick whenever he declares is not a "rare" athlete? Ok

Also, it doesnt take 3 max deals to put you over 100 mil.

But since your acting slow, at the end of the day no one is gonna turn down millions for a pointless year of school... Not even you but that money just aint there for you

Theres going to be top 3 picks every single draft. So, No he's certainly not a "rare" athlete. He's not rare at all actually.

After the rookie contract is up, its going to take a few max (or near max) contracts to reach the 100 mil. level.

Adam Morrison, Andrea Bargnani, Andrew Bogut, Marvin Williams, Emeka Okafor, Darko, Mike Dunleavy, Kwame Brown, Stromile Swift, Darius Miles, Olowokandi. Allthese players were top 3 picks. If you consider these guys "rare" athletes then you need to work on your definitions.

Some of them went to college, yes, but are you telling me that the ones who went straight from HS to the pros made a wise decision?

LeBron is a rare athlete. The dude had his junior year games televised. There were a ton of people who knew who he was when he was in high school. NBAplayers went to see his games. NO ONE who doesnt follow college hoops seriously knows who John Wall is. No one. He's not a once in a generation typeplayer.

Quoted because durden7 is a dumb-dumb
Pot meet kettle. Kettle meet pot.

 

[yungmatt]

Originally Posted by Durden7

your seriously saying that there has never been an athlete that has went to college for a year and gotten injured? Wow

Name me a top level high school talent who went to college for a year and was so seriously injured that he destroyed his stock/chances in the pros.

Are you seriously ******ed?

So now a top 3 pick whenever he declares is not a "rare" athlete? Ok

Also, it doesnt take 3 max deals to put you over 100 mil.

But since your acting slow, at the end of the day no one is gonna turn down millions for a pointless year of school... Not even you but that money just aint there for you

Theres going to be top 3 picks every single draft. So, No he's certainly not a "rare" athlete. He's not rare at all actually.

After the rookie contract is up, its going to take a few max (or near max) contracts to reach the 100 mil. level.

Adam Morrison, Andrea Bargnani, Andrew Bogut, Marvin Williams, Emeka Okafor, Darko, Mike Dunleavy, Kwame Brown, Stromile Swift, Darius Miles, Olowokandi. All these players were top 3 picks. If you consider these guys "rare" athletes then you need to work on your definitions.

Some of them went to college, yes, but are you telling me that the ones who went straight from HS to the pros made a wise decision?

LeBron is a rare athlete. The dude had his junior year games televised. There were a ton of people who knew who he was when he was in high school. NBA players went to see his games. NO ONE who doesnt follow college hoops seriously knows who John Wall is. No one. He's not a once in a generation type player.

Quoted because durden7 is a dumb-dumb
Pot meet kettle. Kettle meet pot.




You take a handfull of the worst possible 1-3 picks in recent memory to try to prove your point

Your clueless dude...Give it up

 

[biggie62]

Actually after taxes, agent fees, manager fees, publicist, a dumb ### entourage of 5+ people which most these idiot athletes have for some reason which theydon't need. Yea, he won't see 100 million. Off 1 max deal of 120 million he'd see 50 million max without expenses. Just taxes, manager, publicist,and agent. Do some HW. And yea if he would take some business classes in college for that semester he'd learn A LOT about money management.

 

[durden7]

yungmatt wrote:

You take a handfull of the worst possible 1-3 picks in recent memory to try to prove your point

Your clueless dude...Give it up
Really? So youre saying that the names I listed dont help prove my point? That's the whole idea of those names bud. You obviously missed mycase.

 

[yungmatt]

Originally Posted by Durden7

yungmatt wrote:

You take a handfull of the worst possible 1-3 picks in recent memory to try to prove your point

Your clueless dude...Give it up

Really? So youre saying that the names I listed dont help prove my point? That's the whole idea of those names bud. You obviously missed my case.




I didnt miss anything... Like I said, hell be a top 3 pick in ANY draft... ANY draft

Name 1 of those that you listed that would be top 3 in ANY draft...


Biggie62:

Actually after taxes, agent fees, manager fees, publicist, a dumb ### entourage of 5+ people which most these idiot athletes have for some reason which they don't need. Yea, he won't see 100 million. Off 1 max deal of 120 million he'd see 50 million max without expenses. Just taxes, manager, publicist, and agent. Do some HW. And yea if he would take some business classes in college for that semester he'd learn A LOT about money management.

I went thru this with you before... I know hes not seeing his whole contract obviously.

 

[super t1ght]

Originally Posted by aztec06jr

Kwame is gettin paid...I really doubt he's on the Pistons bench like "Damn I should've got a degree."

In all honestly, 99% of college students are probably thinking "Damn I wish I could make as much money as Kwame."

College is cool but you use it to get to a higher paying job...

i know right
kwame couldve gone to school, went undrafted, and would be lucky to make 40k/year



and you are insane if you think 1 year of college is going to help Wall after his career. even 4 years wont matter after his career. he needs to start cakingas young as possible. if Wall was going to school to actually get an education, then there MIGHT be an argument. he's going to school for basketball.PERIOD. If teams are drafting him top 5 now/next year, u gotta be dumb as hell to not go ASAP

 

[biggie62]

Plus, I was listening to David Stern on WFAN yesterday. He said about cutting max contact length to about 5 years. Plus lowering contract maxes too. Which Iunderstand with the economic time. And TBH, I'm probably sold more on Ricky Rubio than this dude anyway.

 

[gtownballer23]

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by swyftdahoe

Not sure how prep school works. Did he get a hs diploma and graduate then attend this 5th year at a prep school? If he did, then yeah, I'd say he might be eligible.

One of two things could have happened...

1. Wall repeated a grade somewhere between 9-12. If he did that, his elgibility was up in a public school after 4 years.

2. He did a PG (post graduate) year at another school following graduation. This is VERY common. You graduate your HS, but go to a prep school where you can work on "boosting" your SAT/ACT scores while getting another chance to compete against other kids in HS. Your GPA doesn't count towards college in the grand scheme of things in your PG year.

I'm guessing he falls under #2....

I've heard it was #1. He didn't fail 10th grade, he transferred to another school after 10th grade and the new school didn't accept somecourses... from what I've heard.
Wall and D Rose have gotta be the two most athletic, explosive pgs ever from the hs ranks. They are somewhat similar. I'd take John Wall. The one thingfor sure that D Rose has on him is more muscle, and he uses this a lot in the paint, driving to the basket.. But J Wall should bulk up, plus he is 2 inchestaller with freakishly long gorilla arms. Both very inconsistent from outside. John Wall has more of a J Kidd (though not on that level) typeof court vision where he can rack up the assists in a hurry and is extremely capable of getting easy shots for teammates.
If he can get into the draft, I'd take John Wall #1 over Griffin. Probably the best prospect since LeBron.

That said, he'd be better suited going to Gainesville for a year and learn from the best in Billy D.

 

[peteweezy]

Originally Posted by acidicality

Originally Posted by DL2352

Maybe Wall will fall to the Warriors

... We don't have any point guards.

Stop jacking the Bulls mojo it's not going to work for yall

It sure worked for us though D.Rose!!!

 

[scottsauce88]

Do some HW. And yea if he would take some business classes in college for that semester he'd learn A LOT about money management.
I dont know about you but the college I go to you have to be accepted into the Business programs before you can start taking business classes. Asmuch as I hate to say it the dude isnt going to learn !#+# taking joke #%# classes like Philosophy and Anthro and any other joke classes that I guarantee thedude would take if he went to college.

Some of them went to college, yes, but are you telling me that the ones who went straight from HS to the pros made a wise decision?
well lets see.

Andrew Bogut has a contract through 2014 in which he will make 14 million alone in his last year.

Kwame brown was just making 9 million a year.

Emeka Okafor has a contract through 2014 in which the last year he will be paid 14.5 million dollars.

Marvin Williams is still in his rooking contract, but he is playing ok and still making about 6 million a year, which will be more after his rookie contract itup.

Darius Miles is getting paid almost 10 million a year to do nothing.

Andrea Barganani is getting paid about 6 million a year but after his rookie contract is up he will get much much more than that.

Mike Dunleavy is making 10 million a year.

Really? So youre saying that the names I listed dont help prove my point? That's the whole idea of those names bud. You obviously missed my case.


It may have proven that not all top 3 picks pan out, but these dudes are making bank.

 

[biggie62]

Originally Posted by Scottsauce88

Do some HW. And yea if he would take some business classes in college for that semester he'd learn A LOT about money management.

I dont know about you but the college I go to you have to be accepted into the Business programs before you can start taking business classes. As much as I hate to say it the dude isnt going to learn !**! taking joke as classes like Philosophy and Anthro and any other joke classes that I guarantee the dude would take if he went to college.


I go to Fordham. Yes you should be accepted to the business school. But if you want to take some extra electives they let you. If you don'thave access to doing that in your school than man I'd complain.

 

[scottsauce88]

Originally Posted by Biggie62

Originally Posted by Scottsauce88

Do some HW. And yea if he would take some business classes in college for that semester he'd learn A LOT about money management.

I dont know about you but the college I go to you have to be accepted into the Business programs before you can start taking business classes. As much as I hate to say it the dude isnt going to learn !**! taking joke as classes like Philosophy and Anthro and any other joke classes that I guarantee the dude would take if he went to college.

I go to Fordham. Yes you should be accepted to the business school. But if you want to take some extra electives they let you. If you don't have access to doing that in your school than man I'd complain.


Our business college here is accredited so you have to take certain classes to be accepted into the business program. BTW I go to Iowa State and even though Iam going for a M.B.A in Accounting I still wound up taking joke classes my freshman year because I had to wait for admission into the business college. Honestly, College is great if you stay all four years, but if you just go for one you really aren't going to get much out of it.

 

[durden7]

yungmatt wrote:

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Originally Posted by Durden7

yungmatt wrote:

You take a handfull of the worst possible 1-3 picks in recent memory to try to prove your point

Your clueless dude...Give it up

Really? So youre saying that the names I listed dont help prove my point? That's the whole idea of those names bud. You obviously missed my case.




I didnt miss anything... Like I said, hell be a top 3 pick in ANY draft... ANY draft

Name 1 of those that you listed that would be top 3 in ANY draft...



John Wall will not be a top 3 pick in any draft.

Hewouldnt even be guaranteed to be top 3 THIS year.

Who is proclaiming that he would be top 3 in any draft? You? Youre the first person ive ever heard say such a thing. No one's saying it.

i know right
kwame couldve gone to school, went undrafted, and would be lucky to make 40k/year



and you are insane if you think 1 year of college is going to help Wall after his career. even 4 years wont matter after his career. he needs to start caking as young as possible. if Wall was going to school to actually get an education, then there MIGHT be an argument. he's going to school for basketball. PERIOD. If teams are drafting him top 5 now/next year, u gotta be dumb as hell to not go ASAP

Thinking Kwame would have went undrafted. What if he went tocollege, learned how to play basketball at a high level and came into the league with some ability to compete that the NBA level? You cant sit here and saythat he made a wise choice. You dont know, end neither do i. He could have went to school, got better basketball wise and been drafted in the late part ofthe lottery to a better team who could have used him proprerly.

Youre highly downplaying the importance of a college education. 4 years of school wont matter?

How old are you? Have you even been to college? Have you been around collegeathletes? Sure, he could go to school and blow his chance at some sort of education in a year, but thats his fault for not taking advantage of theopportunity. If thats the case, then he's going to make the same poor decisions after HS and after a year of college.

 

[N41D]

I'm kinda wondering how a kid that hasn't graduated high school can be a year removed from his graduating class, though... Don't make sense...

 

[drunken cow]

OMG, dude is sick. I would love for him to play at UT, lol.

 

[yungmatt]

Originally Posted by Durden7

yungmatt wrote:

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Originally Posted by Durden7

yungmatt wrote:

You take a handfull of the worst possible 1-3 picks in recent memory to try to prove your point

Your clueless dude...Give it up

Really? So youre saying that the names I listed dont help prove my point? That's the whole idea of those names bud. You obviously missed my case.

I didnt miss anything... Like I said, hell be a top 3 pick in ANY draft... ANY draft

Name 1 of those that you listed that would be top 3 in ANY draft...



John Wall will not be a top 3 pick in any draft.

He wouldnt even be guaranteed to be top 3 THIS year.

Who is proclaiming that he would be top 3 in any draft? You? Youre the first person ive ever heard say such a thing. No one's saying it.

Did Wall bone your chick and thats why your salty? Or is she a fan? Like what is it? Or do you just not follow basketball? What? Im justsaying, you sound salty and theres gotta be a reason behind your posts..

Youre highly downplaying the importance of a college education. 4 years of school wont matter?

How old are you? Have you even been to college? Have you been around college athletes? Sure, he could go to school and blow his chance at some sort of education in a year, but thats his fault for not taking advantage of the opportunity. If thats the case, then he's going to make the same poor decisions after HS and after a year of college.

@ a YEAR of college.... College is 4 years bruh... If you dont complete the 4 years then why go at all?

 

[biggie62]

Originally Posted by Scottsauce88

Originally Posted by Biggie62

Originally Posted by Scottsauce88

Do some HW. And yea if he would take some business classes in college for that semester he'd learn A LOT about money management.

I dont know about you but the college I go to you have to be accepted into the Business programs before you can start taking business classes. As much as I hate to say it the dude isnt going to learn !**! taking joke as classes like Philosophy and Anthro and any other joke classes that I guarantee the dude would take if he went to college.

I go to Fordham. Yes you should be accepted to the business school. But if you want to take some extra electives they let you. If you don't have access to doing that in your school than man I'd complain.

Our business college here is accredited so you have to take certain classes to be accepted into the business program. BTW I go to Iowa State and even though I am going for a M.B.A in Accounting I still wound up taking joke classes my freshman year because I had to wait for admission into the business college. Honestly, College is great if you stay all four years, but if you just go for one you really aren't going to get much out of it.


My school's business school is ranked 44 this year and 27 in 08. So don't act like because your school is accredited that it's better.

 

[scottsauce88]

Thinking Kwame would have went undrafted. What if he went to college, learned how to play basketball at a high level and came into the league with some ability to compete that the NBA level? You cant sit here and say that he made a wise choice. You dont know, end neither do i. He could have went to school, got better basketball wise and been drafted in the late part of the lottery to a better team who could have used him proprerly
if Kwame would have gone to college for a year most scouts would have realized that he didnt have what it takes to be a top prospect. The reasonKwame got drafted first was because he was absolutely amazing in pre-draft workouts, and potential. Had he waited most scouts would have found out that hehas stone hands and no offensive game and his potential wasnt that great. Kwame Brown made the right choice of going to the NBA draft. The dude got twodifferent contracts based entirely off of potential alone because he was the number one pick. If he went to college and got drafted in the late first roundthere is no way he would have gotten that second contract that was as large as it was.

 

[N41D]

John Wall wouldn't be a Top 3 pick in any draft? Let alone this draft?

Sounds ******ed...

 

[scottsauce88]

Originally Posted by Biggie62

Originally Posted by Scottsauce88

Originally Posted by Biggie62

Originally Posted by Scottsauce88

Do some HW. And yea if he would take some business classes in college for that semester he'd learn A LOT about money management.

I dont know about you but the college I go to you have to be accepted into the Business programs before you can start taking business classes. As much as I hate to say it the dude isnt going to learn !**! taking joke as classes like Philosophy and Anthro and any other joke classes that I guarantee the dude would take if he went to college.

I go to Fordham. Yes you should be accepted to the business school. But if you want to take some extra electives they let you. If you don't have access to doing that in your school than man I'd complain.

Our business college here is accredited so you have to take certain classes to be accepted into the business program. BTW I go to Iowa State and even though I am going for a M.B.A in Accounting I still wound up taking joke classes my freshman year because I had to wait for admission into the business college. Honestly, College is great if you stay all four years, but if you just go for one you really aren't going to get much out of it.

My school's business school is ranked 44 this year and 27 in 08. So don't act like because your school is accredited that it's better.



jesus christ im not. Im explaining why I had to take classes to get into the business college. Jesus, Ive never seen someone get so butt hurt in my entirelife

 

[yungmatt]

Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

John Wall wouldn't be a Top 3 pick in any draft? Let alone this draft?

Sounds ******ed...

Follow the thread, I been calling this guy ******ed in pretty much every one of my posts. Dude is clueless