Joe Rogan Podcast

N. korean defector Yeonmi Park

RIVETING interview on how DIRE conditions are in N.Korea today in 2021….INSANE…absolutely altered my perception of the sheltered american lives that we live.

I was already extremely appreciative of the life I have here in the US compared to others born with a less beneficial hand of cards….

but to listen to her FIRST HAND account (not a movie, not a documentary) of how hopeless life really is over there just gives me a whole nother lens to took through…ESPECIALLY in this country right now.

I recommend this to everyone who lives in the United States.
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Saying life is better in America than North Korea for the average citizen doesn't in any way undercut demands for America to do better for its citizens, especially marginalized groups

I don't think dude really thought that post through before he wrote it
 
I've seen Yeonmi Park making her rounds as of late and it's exactly that. She's a right-wing prop used to push the narrative of "things aren't so bad here, so quit your *****ing" that the intellectually lazy loves to gobble up.
or she’s a defector just telling her story

but ill let you tell it chief, it’s your world
 
or she’s a defector just telling her story

but ill let you tell it chief, it’s your world

She described a culture of political correctness at the Ivy League institution that she said rivaled the thought-policing that happened in her native country.

"I expected that I was paying this fortune, all this time and energy, to learn how to think. But they are forcing you to think the way they want you to think," Park told Fox News. "I realized, 'Wow, this is insane.' I thought America was different, but I saw so many similarities to what I saw in North Korea that I started worrying."

Goes on Fox News and compares political correctness at Ivy League schools to North Korea.

Talking down on minorities calling out injustice in America

Yep, she is just telling her story
 
Cool ^

that doesn’t change her story or what she went through.

are you trying to say she is lying or being untrue about her story?
 
No but lay it out for me so we can be on the same page.

I posted a podcast about a defectors story and you want to attack her credibility.

what am I conviently ignorning? The fact she went on fox news? Means nothing to me.
 
Cool ^

that doesn’t change her story or what she went through.

are you trying to say she is lying or being untrue about her story?
No, I am trying to point out she is not simply telling her story about what happened to her in NK. She goes beyond that.

She is using that experience to make hot takes about American life and talk down on people fighting injustice in this country

Her rhetoric goes beyond just talking about NK.
 
No, I am trying to point out she is not simply telling her story about what happened to her in NK. She goes beyond that.

She is using that experience to make hot takes about American life and talk down on people fighting injustice in this country

Her rhetoric goes beyond just talking about NK. She gives takes on America.
Ok I can see that point very clear.

now with that being said, did you listen to the podcast I posted or are just making generalizations based on what you know about her?

because that is not the tone I got from her.

she was providing context to her situation in america based on her experience in N.Korea…her tone was more so CONFUSED about issues here in america and making contrasts and comparison with how she was raised.

from an american born in america, it’s interesting to listen to a human being who was born in the modern age never taught the word or meanings of basic human rites we all experience like “love” or “compassion”

she goes on to say there are currently no words in the N.Korean dialect to describe love or compassion(amongst a slew of other basic emotions and things we take for granted. )There is no emotion there, there is no empathy.

this can be valuable conversation for anyone to listen to in 2021. Such a unique perspective.

goes beyind politics and affiliation

it’s about basic human rites and liberties man.

why y’all try to make everything so tribally political?
 
Ok I can see that point very clear.

now with that being said, did you listen to the podcast I posted or are just making generalizations based on what you know about her?

because that is not the tone I got from her.

she was providing context to her situation in america based on her experience in N.Korea…her tone was more so CONFUSED about issues here in america and making contrasts and comparison with how she was raised.

from an american born in america, it’s interesting to listen to a human being who was born in the modern age never taught the word or meanings of basic human rites we all experience like “love” or “compassion”

she goes on to say there are currently no words in the N.Korean dialect to describe love or compassion(amongst a slew of other basic emotions and things we take for granted. )There is no emotion there, there is no empathy.

this can be valuable conversation for anyone to listen to in 2021. Such a unique perspective.

goes beyind politics and affiliation

it’s about basic human rites and liberties man.

why y’all try to make everything so tribally political?
No, I haven't listened to the podcast, I listen to other comments she has made over the years and I pointed out some of the rhetoric she has been putting out there.

I don't think this podcast alone is only thing I can form an opinion about her from, especially if she has a history of making comments in other venues.

I didn't mention anything about tribal politics here. So spare me this special pleading. My initial comments were about YOUR words. The framing of your endorsement.

Then I posted an article, and comments included naming the media outlet she gave her comments too, and what she said. Then implying she is not restricting her takes to like in NK.

I didn't mention anything about tribal politics, conservative, liberal, Republican, Dem. My issue with her is not her telling her story, but how she is using her life experience as a cudgel against people in America fighting for injustice.

If you see tribal politics in that, then you need to ask yourself why is that the case.

By the way, I was born and raised in another country, moved to the United States when I was 13. I am grateful for my life in America, the people I have met, and the opportunities I have had. I have also been harassed by police since I set foot in this country. As a teenager to the point lawyers had to get involved. And almost got murdered by the NYPD during a needless stop and frisk search. I am grateful for my life here, and I find it abhorrent that America has failed to live up to it's stated ideal when it comes to so many of its citizens.

I have watched documentaries of people that field dictatorships, including NK. I have listened to their interviews. I know life is better in America than in these countries for the average citizen

While not a dictatorship I have first-hand knowledge of living in another country, with fewer opportunities. So again, I am grateful for my life in America and utterly disgusted at how this country routinely fails so many that need help living within its borders. These two views are not mutually exclusive, they are not at odds with one another.

I respect this woman's view on her experience living in NK. But IMO is it nonsense she then uses that to **** on marginalized groups in America.

The same people she is throwing under the bus are the same ones that have fought to make America better.

And to me, it is people that say **** like "welp at least America is not NK" that does this country a disservice. Because of demanding we live up to our stated ideals, they instead ask we lower the bar as to what should be acceptable in the supposed greatest country in the world. To me, any argument approaching "well at least we are better than NK" deployed in a way to push back against those demanding justice is ridiculous to me. This woman had done just that, that is what I have an issue with.

I appreciate the good in America too much for me to not hold it accountable for its bad.
 
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