No it wasn't, the LDS church was.Originally Posted by ninjahood
Originally Posted by NaturalyLight
again...you are really not allowed to comment on anything outside of your building. You are like 30 and have never ventured more than a 3 block radius from your piss smelling hallways. This is the same dude who denies being black and will call himself Dominican and argue Spanish roots, but now you want to be the voice of black people.
Da fact that u got everything wrong here makes u look clownish.Its WELL known da black community in california was instrumental in their ban on gay marriage.Next time u TRY clown, get ur facts straight palomaso.
thats that theyve always done on niketalk thoughOriginally Posted by ThunderChunk69
so Ninjahood is Black when it's convenient to the black NTers?
but their sole argument in him being "black" is that he's black when it's convenient to him?
good thing there are enough black NTers to run around and cosign each other for pages rather than thinking for themselves
No just trying to piggyback off of it. The kind of discrimination they face is NOTHING like the discrimination black people face. Do gay people have to drive around fearing that they will get pulled over just because they're gay? Do gay people walk the streets knowing that they can get randomly frisked by police just because they're gay? Do gay people have to worry about the criminal justice system and it's unproportional incarceration of fellow gays? Are gay people routinely disenfranchised economically, socially and politically? oh. Oh. OH.Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
So please tell me this, is it more offensive to draw comparisons between the two struggles as many activists do, or is it more offensive for you to use your ancestor's struggles to belittle, denigrate, and mock someone else's struggles? You constantly feign being offended by a group making these comparisons because they were never lynched or sprayed by hoses. Yet here you are co-opting past struggles, struggles that you yourself have never endured, to make a point against a group just wanting equality! If homosexuals were granted the same rights that you have, would you somehow be offended that they didn't have to go through lynchings and being sprayed by hoses to attain those rights? Would those rights be less valid and less reason to celebrate because, as you see it, they didn't go through the same hells to be seen as equal? You use examples of atrocities you haven't ever endured to say someone's struggles were so superior that comparisons can't be made! $$@+%+#, please, dude!Originally Posted by cartune
I just wish black Americans had the convenience of "hiding" their skin while letting gay Americans go through centuries of hell and let them die by thousands fighting for civil liberties for all. And then black people "came out" of hiding when it was safer after the country had soften up a bit because images of hundreds of gay people being hung and being sprayed with hoses has softened Americans hearts. Now its ok for blacks to come prancing out demanding stuff and comparing fighting for one civil luxury to almost a thousand years discrimination & murder.Most of you are white so I can sorta understand the passion because this is the first a white man has been denied a luxury in this country. Welcome to the party
Homosexuals aren't trying to take away from the struggles of African Americans. Nope, they just want the same kind of equality that your ancestors wanted. They want to be accepted despite the obvious differences. If you fail to see the similarities you are more clueless than I previously thought, which is saying a whole hell of a lot.
Oh and since when did homosexuals all become white? Obviously you haven't ever heard of the stereotypes that surrounded AIDS originally...
Lol dude said Joe Oliver. You do realize that black republicans do exist and a great deal of them are of the 1%? Classic republican ideology not only preaches social conservatism but also fiscal conservatism (i.e. limiting govt intervention in our daily lives, such as raising taxes) and obviously that appeals to individuals with money regardless of race, thus leading such individuals to the Republican party.
Originally Posted by ninjahood
Naturallylight needs to jump off el salami campesino...
I state facts, ur just mad @ ur incompetence to actually say anything
Substantial that doesnt reveal your apparent crush on ninjahood...
No just trying to piggyback off of it. The kind of discrimination they face is NOTHING like the discrimination black people face. Do gay people have to drive around fearing that they will get pulled over just because they're gay? Do gay people walk the streets knowing that they can get randomly frisked by police just because they're gay? Do gay people have to worry about the criminal justice system and it's unproportional incarceration of fellow gays? Are gay people routinely disenfranchised economically, socially and politically? oh. Oh. OH.
Gay people people comparing their "struggle" to be able to get married to the struggle for my black people to be treated as HUMAN BEINGS is insulting and trivializes the discrimination that we have to endure. It's like a guy who had his pinky chopped off looking at a dude with an amputated arm and saying "I know the feel bro."
FTR I think gay people can get married if they want, I really don't give a *#%%. They should be able to be miserable together just like normal couples do. Just stop trying to draw parallels between your quest to be able to receive the same financial benefits as straight married couples (which is what I think the whole thing is about: $) to the real life struggle we have to face in almost every aspect of our lives.
Again, no one is equating the struggles or levels of discrimination faced by blacks in this country and the gay community. The basis of the connection between the two is that both are responses to a minority group being discriminated. The Civil Rights movement in the U.S., throughout its long history, was influenced and shaped by many other domestic and transnational struggles for civil and human rights, and movements fighting against discrimination. The significance of the Civil Rights Movement was not simply to finally disallow de jure discrimination against blacks, and change (slowly) societal perceptions of racism in this country, but its legacy. Many of the leaders of the CRM were involved in others' struggles against discrimination and for equal rights. Its very disheartening to see that the legacy of the CRM is now used as a defensive position to relegate the struggles of another minority group (albeit struggles that are far different) to the margins of our society due to them not being "as bad."
Sleep tight knowing you live in a fairy tale world.Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
Co-sign.
Originally Posted by NaturalyLight
Originally Posted by ninjahood
Naturallylight needs to jump off el salami campesino...
I state facts, ur just mad @ ur incompetence to actually say anything
Substantial that doesnt reveal your apparent crush on ninjahood...
oh okay. Again, you can't pick and choose when you want to be 'black.' It doesn't work that way amigo.
The point that I and others are making is that you can't pick and choose when to take an autoritative stance on the 'black community' while openly denying being black. How does that not make sense to you? I respect your right to any opinion you choose to have, but don't come in here acting like you are the 'black voice' that speaks for and represents 'us' all when you don;t even claim 'us.' Are you dense?Originally Posted by ninjahood
Originally Posted by NaturalyLight
Originally Posted by ninjahood
Naturallylight needs to jump off el salami campesino...
I state facts, ur just mad @ ur incompetence to actually say anything
Substantial that doesnt reveal your apparent crush on ninjahood...
oh okay. Again, you can't pick and choose when you want to be 'black.' It doesn't work that way amigo.
Yea, so quote me where i said i represent da monolithic populationKnown as "black people" im waiting....
It was said in jest, RKO.Originally Posted by RKO2004
Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
Sleep tight knowing you live in a fairy tale world.Originally Posted by 36 OUNCES
Couldn't resist could you?Some of you come on here like social activist and then at the first chance you get, kick dirt in someone's face.
This is utter B.S. How can you assume that someone's intentions are only based on what affects them? That's ridiculously cynical. I am not a woman, but I fight for women's rights, equal pay and to be seen as equals. I am not gay, but I want to have them seen as equals. I am not religious, but I don't believe in persecuting someone for their religious affiliation.
lobotomybeats wrote:
Sleep tight knowing you live in a fairy tale world.
