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Originally Posted by Cole World 22
And you lames need to quit talkin' about the "it" factor.
Stop disguising that factor and saying you can't put your finger on it.
The "it factor" you're referring to is a gimmick.
That's why we like Cole. It's straight hip-hop, no gimmicks.
I think he will surprise a lot of people too.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
Originally Posted by shoeking2101
Cole is going to surprise a lot of people with the numbers he does with this project. His fanbase is bigger than a lot of people give him credit for.
i wanna agree but what kind of surprise are you talking? 100-125k first week would be surprising and shocking to alot of people if u ask me.
Im thinking 50-80k are reasonable expectations.
I mean if Ace Hood can do 30k, Im sure Cole can clear that easy.
Originally Posted by LBJ23navo
I like how Rihanna & Travis Barker himself were tweeting about the espn contest but Cole still won. He didn't even tweet about it
Originally Posted by Cole World 22
And you lames need to quit talkin' about the "it" factor.
Stop disguising that factor and saying you can't put your finger on it.
The "it factor" you're referring to is a gimmick.
That's why we like Cole. It's straight hip-hop, no gimmicks.
Clowns need gimmicks to attract attention.
Casual rap listeners don't listen to lyrics. They listen to a rapper's ability to sell them on a gimmick, rather than the content itself.
J. Cole is not gonna tell people to drop out of college.
J. Cole is not "the white rapper that could."
J. Cole doesn't need to tell people he's "the best rapper alive."
He doesn't need a gimmick. I understand that clowns don't listen to lyrics, and need to be attracted to a fabricated gimmick. Sorry, but you're listening to the wrong rapper.
"It factor". *#%! outta here.
Originally Posted by JustinCredible
I think he will surprise a lot of people too.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
Originally Posted by shoeking2101
Cole is going to surprise a lot of people with the numbers he does with this project. His fanbase is bigger than a lot of people give him credit for.
i wanna agree but what kind of surprise are you talking? 100-125k first week would be surprising and shocking to alot of people if u ask me.
Im thinking 50-80k are reasonable expectations.
I mean if Ace Hood can do 30k, Im sure Cole can clear that easy.
There has been multiple times when I've stopped at a stop light and a car full of valley white girls pulled up slappin' "The Warm Up". Wasn't even Lights Please either.
Originally Posted by LBJ23navo
^Just got releaed on iTunes
http://itunes.apple.com/u...h-feat.-trey/id462812644
Not sure if I should listen or not..
Think imma hold out, I want the album to be as new as possibleOriginally Posted by carbon16
Originally Posted by LBJ23navo
^Just got releaed on iTunes
http://itunes.apple.com/u...h-feat.-trey/id462812644
Not sure if I should listen or not..
Just listened to it, do it bro it's good for ya
30K?Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
Originally Posted by shoeking2101
Cole is going to surprise a lot of people with the numbers he does with this project. His fanbase is bigger than a lot of people give him credit for.
i wanna agree but what kind of surprise are you talking? 100-125k first week would be surprising and shocking to alot of people if u ask me.
Im thinking 50-80k are reasonable expectations.
I mean if Ace Hood can do 30k, Im sure Cole can clear that easy.
i feel the sameOriginally Posted by LBJ23navo
Think imma hold out, I want the album to be as new as possibleOriginally Posted by carbon16
Originally Posted by LBJ23navo
^Just got releaed on iTunes
http://itunes.apple.com/u...h-feat.-trey/id462812644
Not sure if I should listen or not..
Just listened to it, do it bro it's good for ya
what u meant to say was J. Cole is not Pop(ular) with white teen demographic.Originally Posted by 0renthalJames
J. Cole has no buzz though. Name a white kid outside of NT buying this album? Cause I can't
-The Juice
B.o.B is LOVED by the white community. He had 2 big singles and white girls love him. He went gold. And he is doing an all Asian tour, he is doing just fine in his nicheOriginally Posted by Ace Rawstein
what u meant to say was J. Cole is not Pop(ular) with white teen demographic.Originally Posted by 0renthalJames
J. Cole has no buzz though. Name a white kid outside of NT buying this album? Cause I can't
-The Juice
B.o.B. had no buzz sold, 87K
Big Sean own buzz isnt bigger than Cole's but he sold 87K
Tyler the Creator buzz got him 50K, n 3/4 of black twitter never heard of him to MTV awards last week.
White kids buying yo album is not equal buzz.
Lil Wayne bout to pull a mill on Carter 4 and sum would say he aint have no buzz for his album
Originally Posted by 0renthalJames
.B.o.B is LOVED by the white community. He had 2 big singles and white girls love him. He went gold. And he is doing an all Asian tour, he is doing just fine in his nicheOriginally Posted by Ace Rawstein
what u meant to say was J. Cole is not Pop(ular) with white teen demographic.Originally Posted by 0renthalJames
J. Cole has no buzz though. Name a white kid outside of NT buying this album? Cause I can't
-The Juice
B.o.B. had no buzz sold, 87K
Big Sean own buzz isnt bigger than Cole's but he sold 87K
Tyler the Creator buzz got him 50K, n 3/4 of black twitter never heard of him to MTV awards last week.
White kids buying yo album is not equal buzz.
Lil Wayne bout to pull a mill on Carter 4 and sum would say he aint have no buzz for his album
Big Sean got zero support from Kanye (Ye showed more love to Yonkers than any Big Sean track post "Get'cha some") and zero marketing. My Last is a big single but most ppl believe it's a Chris Brown cut. Although I was surprised he didn't do better, year is not over though.
Tyler the Creator put out his album too fast in order to capitalize on his buzz. He had a strong internet buzz but he seriously should have waited and built up anticipation more. Heard about dude and his crew in March, son put out an album May. Not enough time.
Lil Wayne doesn't need buzz at this point
White kids buying your album when you have buzz helps quite a bit. J. Cole has no successful single, and Any Given Sundays have no buzz. What will help him though is his affiliation with Jay. Jay is going to make sure his album is shipped and stocked in all markets instead of submarined like Wale's
-The Juice