It's been 5 years, why isn't MJ in the Hall?

[downtown43]

also you have to look at the difference in eras. i mean lets be honest, the East was a lot weaker back then compared to now. MJ never had to face the Cavsevery night, he never had to guard Josh Childress

if he played in todays league he could be a solid 10PPG role player, but HOF? come on man, thats a bit much

 

[kicks off]

Bill Wennington > Michael Jordan.

 

[715 asterisk]

^ Not to mention Steve Kerr made all the trades/personnel moves to build a championship squad.

 

[mike23theking]

Originally Posted by MrAir180

Did he really do enough to get into the hall? I mean....he was alright and stuff. But wasn't as good as Mark Eaton, or Orlando Woolridge good.

Jordan couldn't see Eaton or Orlando on his BEST day.

Originally Posted by SoHi 23

Jordan was carried on those Olymphic teams, I doubt he gets in

Laettner CONSTANTLY had to carry Jordan in '92. That was obvious.

Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

he never had to guard Josh Childress

No joke... Childress would OWN Jordan.

 

[T0INE]

Originally Posted by 5am6oody72

It's pretty simple actually; he doesn't deserve it.

 

[5am6oody72]

Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

also you have to look at the difference in eras. i mean lets be honest, the East was a lot weaker back then compared to now. MJ never had to face the Cavs every night, he never had to guard Josh Childress

if he played in todays league he could be a solid 10PPG role player, but HOF? come on man, thats a bit much

Best thing in this post.

 

[c dub606]

Maybe he's making a return?

 

[hardwork919]

Originally Posted by 5am6oody72

Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

also you have to look at the difference in eras. i mean lets be honest, the East was a lot weaker back then compared to now. MJ never had to face the Cavs every night, he never had to guard Josh Childress

if he played in todays league he could be a solid 10PPG role player, but HOF? come on man, thats a bit much

Best thing in this post.

How did I miss that?

 

[niketalker23]

Jordan? Hall of fame? He wasn't even he best Bull. I'd put Pippen, Kerr, Rodman, and Wennington before him.

 

[i3]

Surely Jud Buchler and his perfect comb over was more influential down the sretch.

And who can forget Randy Brown, the things he did..

 

[hypnosis45]

you guys are joking right

 

[sdtekken]

Dickey Simpkins gets a nod first

 

[TheGift23]

Originally Posted by Hypnosis45

you guys are joking right

No.

 

[dajoka004]

Originally Posted by Hypnosis45

you guys are joking right

No. Mike was only good for the shoes. Instead of promoting his kicks on fashion magazine covers, he should have been practicing.

 

[jumpman247]

Originally Posted by Hypnosis45

you guys are joking right

Dude look at MJ's teammates, every year he had amazing players around him. Lebron is a leaps and bounds ahead of MJ, and LeBron is doing it all byhimself.

 

[jdmfanatic]

Jordan was a role player?

 

[joe cool23]

[h1]Career Leaders and Records for Hall of Fame Probability[/h1]
Leaders and Records: Career / Active

Click on the Player for career statistics and accomplishments.
Active players are listed in bold.
Members of the Hall of Fame are marked with an asterisk (*).

Explanation of Hall of Fame probability

[h2]Total[/h2]

1.	Bill Russell*	1.0000
2.	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*	1.0000
3.	Cliff Levingston	1.0000
4.	Wilt Chamberlain*	1.0000
5.	Magic Johnson*	1.0000
6.	Larry Bird*	1.0000
7.	Bob Pettit*	1.0000
8.	Bob Cousy*	1.0000
9.	Shaquille O'Neal	1.0000
10.	Tim Duncan	1.0000
11.	Karl Malone	1.0000
12.	Oscar Robertson*	1.0000
13.	Moses Malone*	1.0000
14.	John Havlicek*	1.0000
15.	Allen Iverson	1.0000
16.	Hakeem Olajuwon	1.0000
17.	Charles Barkley*	1.0000
18.	Julius Erving*	1.0000
19.	Jerry West*	1.0000
20.	David Robinson	1.0000
21.	Kevin Garnett	1.0000
22.	Dave Cowens*	0.9999
23.	Elgin Baylor*	0.9999
24.	George Mikan*	0.9999
25.	Willis Reed*	0.9999
26.	Sam Jones*	0.9998
27.	Bob McAdoo*	0.9998
28.	Tom Heinsohn*	0.9997
29.	Kobe Bryant	0.9996
30.	Isiah Thomas*	0.9995
31.	Steve Nash	0.9993
32.	Dirk Nowitzki	0.9992
33.	Slater Martin*	0.9978
34.	Vern Mikkelsen*	0.9973
35.	Neil Johnston*	0.9972
36.	Scottie Pippen	0.9970
37.	Elvin Hayes*	0.9968
38.	Paul Arizin*	0.9946
39.	Dolph Schayes*	0.9938
40.	Wes Unseld*	0.9895
41.	Ed Macauley*	0.9886
42.	Clyde Drexler*	0.9865
43.	Rick Barry*	0.9860
44.	Jim Pollard*	0.9859
45.	Bill Sharman*	0.9858
46.	George Yardley*	0.9837
47.	George Gervin*	0.9719
48.	Walt Frazier*	0.9710
49.	Hal Greer*	0.9706
50.	Dominique Wilkins*	0.9695
51.	Bill Walton*	0.9560
52.	Jerry Lucas*	0.9414
53.	Patrick Ewing	0.9404
54.	Vince Carter	0.9398
55.	Dave DeBusschere*	0.9358
56.	Robert Parish*	0.9224
57.	Gary Payton	0.8879
58.	Jason Kidd	0.8846
59.	Harry Gallatin*	0.8734
60.	Bailey Howell*	0.8612
61.	Tracy McGrady	0.8603
62.	John Stockton	0.8593
63.	Jo Jo White	0.8550
64.	Lenny Wilkens*	0.8545
65.	Tiny Archibald*	0.8513
66.	Billy Cunningham*	0.8502
67.	Kevin McHale*	0.8466
68.	Paul Pierce	0.8460
69.	Adrian Dantley	0.8442
70.	Pete Maravich*	0.8423
71.	James Worthy*	0.8335
72.	Bob Davies*	0.8307
73.	Dave Bing*	0.8149
74.	Ray Allen	0.8125
75.	Alex English*	0.8105
76.	Bob Lanier*	0.8046
77.	Bobby Wanzer*	0.7471
78.	Mitch Richmond	0.7121
79.	Grant Hill	0.6940
80.	Arnie Risen*	0.6805
81.	Chris Webber	0.6594
82.	Frank Ramsey*	0.6278
83.	Chet Walker	0.6101
84.	Bob Dandridge	0.6005
85.	**%* McGuire*	0.5999
86.	Tim Hardaway	0.5988
87.	Gilbert Arenas	0.5708
88.	Andy Phillip*	0.5617
89.	Willie Naulls	0.5386
90.	Gail Goodrich*	0.5378
91.	Dennis Johnson	0.5298
92.	Joe Dumars*	0.4883
93.	Walt Bellamy*	0.4837
94.	Jamaal Wilkes	0.4820
95.	Cliff Hagan*	0.4669
96.	Nate Thurmond*	0.4603
97.	Mark Aguirre	0.4515
98.	Clyde Lovellette*	0.4509
99.	Mel Hutchins	0.4479
100.	Jack Sikma	0.4397
101.	Gus Johnson	0.4293
102.	K.C. Jones*	0.4021
103.	Marques Johnson	0.3906
104.	Bernard King	0.3901
105.	Kevin Johnson	0.3893
106.	Tony Parker	0.3726
107.	Spencer Haywood	0.3553
108.	Norm Nixon	0.3552
109.	Alonzo Mourning	0.3351
110.	Jack Coleman	0.3318
111.	Richie Guerin	0.3308
112.	Tom Sanders	0.3308
113.	Lou Hudson	0.3269
114.	David Thompson*	0.3095
115.	Jack Twyman*	0.3068
116.	Brad Daugherty	0.2837
117.	Stephon Marbury	0.2669
118.	Earl Monroe*	0.2642
119.	Steve Francis	0.2213
120.	Ron Harper	0.1909
121.	Walter Davis	0.1849
122.	Glenn Robinson	0.1830
123.	Paul Seymour	0.1775
124.	Dennis Rodman	0.1769
125.	Shawn Marion	0.1727
126.	Elton Brand	0.1664
127.	Antoine Walker	0.1587
128.	Joe Fulks*	0.1556
129.	Charlie Scott	0.1481
130.	Geoff Petrie	0.1442
131.	George King	0.1319
132.	Larry Foust	0.1276
133.	Sam Cassell	0.1146
134.	Larry Costello	0.1129
135.	Artis Gilmore	0.1092
136.	Micheal Ray Richardson	0.1070
137.	George McGinnis	0.1061
138.	Chris Mullin	0.1045
139.	Bob Harrison	0.1028
140.	Rudy Tomjanovich	0.1019
141.	Gus Williams	0.0997
142.	Mark Price	0.0996
143.	Paul Westphal	0.0941
144.	Latrell Sprewell	0.0928
145.	Baron Davis	0.0905
146.	Sidney Wicks	0.0900
147.	Connie Hawkins*	0.0896
148.	Yao Ming	0.0880
149.	Rudy LaRusso	0.0845
150.	Max Zaslofsky	0.0731
151.	Frankie Brian	0.0713
152.	John Drew	0.0675
153.	Sidney Moncrief	0.0674
154.	Bill Laimbeer	0.0669
155.	Jeff Mullins	0.0662
156.	Richard Hamilton	0.0660
157.	Fred Scolari	0.0639
158.	Tom Gola*	0.0596
159.	Otis Birdsong	0.0588
160.	Chauncey Billups	0.0576
161.	Glen Rice	0.0561
162.	Guy Rodgers	0.0545
163.	Manu Ginobili	0.0543
164.	Reggie Miller	0.0541
165.	Maurice Lucas	0.0537
166.	Red Rocha	0.0535
167.	Reggie Theus	0.0512
168.	Larry Siegfried	0.0511
169.	Bill Bridges	0.0499
170.	Red Kerr	0.0457
171.	Nathaniel Clifton	0.0441
172.	Antawn Jamison	0.0438
173.	Dan Issel*	0.0431
174.	Maurice Cheeks	0.0420
175.	Gene Shue	0.0414
176.	Alvin Robertson	0.0412
177.	World B. Free	0.0405
178.	Doug Collins	0.0387
179.	Tom Chambers	0.0380
180.	Rolando Blackman	0.0375
181.	Don Ohl	0.0372
182.	Shawn Kemp	0.0355
183.	Horace Grant	0.0353
184.	Wayne Embry	0.0348
185.	Calvin Murphy*	0.0333
186.	Rasheed Wallace	0.0326
187.	Carl Braun	0.0310
188.	Anfernee Hardaway	0.0296
189.	Robert Horry	0.0287
190.	Michael Finley	0.0277
191.	Fat Lever	0.0274
192.	Larry Nance	0.0264
193.	Phil Chenier	0.0253
194.	Paul Silas	0.0253
195.	Andrew Toney	0.0251
196.	Jack Nichols	0.0248
197.	Norm Van Lier	0.0240
198.	Randy Smith	0.0232
199.	**%* Barnett	0.0231
200.	Archie Clark	0.0229
201.	Jamal Mashburn	0.0226
202.	Michael Cooper	0.0225
203.	Jerry Stackhouse	0.0222
204.	Dan Roundfield	0.0220
205.	Jermaine O'Neal	0.0218
206.	Larry Johnson	0.0216
207.	Michael Adams	0.0209
208.	Pau Gasol	0.0207
209.	Don Nelson	0.0203
210.	Michael Redd	0.0199
211.	Jack McMahon	0.0196
212.	Terrell Brandon	0.0182
213.	Mike Bibby	0.0175
214.	**%* Van Arsdale	0.0174
215.	Byron Scott	0.0173
216.	Phil Smith	0.0164
217.	Jeff Malone	0.0161
218.	Larry Kenon	0.0158
219.	Peja Stojakovic	0.0147
220.	Earl Lloyd	0.0147
221.	Bob Love	0.0147
222.	Zelmo Beaty	0.0143
223.	Mookie Blaylock	0.0140
224.	Shareef Abdur-Rahim	0.0135
225.	Kiki Vandeweghe	0.0132
226.	Truck Robinson	0.0130
227.	Mike Mitchell	0.0129
228.	Andre Miller	0.0122
229.	Nick Van Exel	0.0116
230.	Happy Hairston	0.0112
231.	Jimmy Walker	0.0106
232.	Dikembe Mutombo	0.0104
233.	Eddie Johnson	0.0103
234.	Jason Richardson	0.0103
235.	Calvin Natt	0.0097
236.	Ralph Sampson	0.0097
237.	Chuck Share	0.0096
238.	Vin Baker	0.0096
239.	Derrick Coleman	0.0095
240.	Kelly Tripucka	0.0094
241.	Brian Winters	0.0093
242.	Kenny Smith	0.0091
243.	Jim Loscutoff	0.0091
244.	Joe Johnson	0.0087
245.	Caron Butler	0.0083
246.	Bill Cartwright	0.0080
247.	John Johnson	0.0079
248.	**%* Garmaker	0.0078
249.	Bob Rule	0.0078
250.	Michael Jordan	0.007

[th=""]Rank[/th] [th=""]Player[/th] [th=""]HoF Prob[/th]

 

[willinc]

Hall of shame maybe, for all those gambling problems

but hall of fame,

 

[cool...but rude]

you guys are joking right
Joking?? You give me ONE good reason why Michael Jordan of all people should be in the Hall of Fame

 

[the yes guy]

Life lesson number 76: The concept of sarcasm escapes many people.

 

[Dunk Demon]

Bill Cartwright carried the team back in the early 90's, man.

 

[gettin it crackin]

 

[japanair21]

Everyone knows that Luc Longley carried MJ.

The Hall of Fame will be further known as a travesty if MJ gets in, ever.

 

[dottsballer5]

Okay guys, that's enough.

 

[sick ik 23]

2 pages on how is teammates helped him. it's kinda getting old now