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MMA isn't a wrestling contest.
In an MMA fight, would Ronda Rousey beat Floyd Mayweather?
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The slander bus is appropriate in this case,shes been so disrespectful since she's been on top that many see last night as comeuppance. The same effect would probably be seen if Connor or PBF ever lost 
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Because punching, moving, or clinching to not get punched would really work. She has no shot.. Here I can be a sheep too sooooooo
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Imagine if those punches by Holm were punches by Floyd in those small UFC gloves. Much less weight and padding in those gloves. She would be out cold in half a combo. The same people who said Ronda would win would be calling for Floyd to go to jail for beating up a girl.
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Yeah I understand that
from what I have read you cant really compete in MMA without a base of wrestling skill for both offense and defense, so I can't imagine someone who is the same size as Rousey withe zero wrestling knowledge beating her in something where wrestling is important.
Barry Bonds couldn't hit a Jenny Finch fast ball not becuase Jenny Finch is better than Bonds but rather because two sports that seem similar the small difference loom large when crossing over.
and baseball vs softball seems more similar than MMA vs Boxing.
Just seems like the only logical conclusion that rousey should be favored if I had to set the odds.
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you guys do know men are biologically stronger than women right?
Ronda wouldn't last at all in the octagonal. Not a chance the fight goes more than 1 round.
You guys make it seem like an elite boxer is just gonna stand there waiting to get taken down.
May is elite for a reason, he's feet movement make him a hard target to hit, his defence is on point at all times.
Oh yea and his punches are much more powerful than ronda's.
mens reaction time is faster then women as well. This isn't made up, its biologically induced through evolution.
Lulz.
Just rewatch the fight vs Holm and multiply the Holm punching power x2, hell maybe even x3 (he's a pro).
Ronda beating the average dude? yea no doubt. a professional boxer? foh
Ronda wouldn't last at all in the octagonal. Not a chance the fight goes more than 1 round.
You guys make it seem like an elite boxer is just gonna stand there waiting to get taken down.
May is elite for a reason, he's feet movement make him a hard target to hit, his defence is on point at all times.
Oh yea and his punches are much more powerful than ronda's.
mens reaction time is faster then women as well. This isn't made up, its biologically induced through evolution.
Lulz.
Just rewatch the fight vs Holm and multiply the Holm punching power x2, hell maybe even x3 (he's a pro).
Ronda beating the average dude? yea no doubt. a professional boxer? foh
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People spouting off about what is biologically induced but don't actually know anything about biology.
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Why you always trying to be a killjoy?
Seeing honda get washed was the fighting highlight of the year.
Why you always trying to be a killjoy?
Seeing honda get washed was the fighting highlight of the year.
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in fight it can be a huge factor, u serious right now? Any advantage in a fight is great to have.
reaction time of the average person, but may's reaction time is much faster. Pick a fight and see how many connect to him. Last night how many jabs did Holm land on Ronda so effortlessly? yea...
Boxing is allowed on the octagonal no? lul what makes you think his ring iq won't transfer to the a different ring? keep distance, dodge, land jabs, game over. Land a combo, wew
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OKB sounding crazy right now
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You have no idea what Mayweathers reaction time is, and this betrays your fundmetal lack of understanding of what makes elite athletes elite.
Take a look at this article (an the book if you are intrested in the sicence behind elite performance)
http://www.si.com/more-sports/2013/07/24/sports-gene-excerpt
The important quote.
"The reaction times of elite athletes always hovered around one fifth of a second, the same as the reaction times of random people."
Mayweathers reaction time is almost certainly not materially different than the averages persons or Rousey's. So how come he's able to duck and slip punches like no human ever before? It's his brain, it's the way he can process huge amounts of information and check that against a huge databese of in ring experience.
He has absorbed a lifetime of knowledge when it comes to boxing, he doesn't simply see the punch and move out of the way. He PREDICTS the punch, based on body langue, rythm, im sure even thew way the opponent is breathing gives him all these cluse as to what to do and where to move.
He's robbed of these clues when you transport him to different sport with different rules, and different body movements. its the same reason why Barry Bonds can't hit a softball pitcher, he doesn't have the clues to tell him where the ball is going to be.
Look ultimately we can never know who would win, maybe floyd is such a genius that he would over come all these disadvantages, but my real point is the reasons that most people have been giving.
Men are stronger than Women.
Mne have faster reaction times then women.
The facts don't support these as huge hindrances to rousey.
Neither of these factors are enough presume a mayweather victory and dismiss the very real factors that come with competing in A COMPELETLEY DIFFERENT SPORT.
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Let me join in on the fun.
Rousey shoots for the takedown and those reflexes yall keep mentioning react to the lunge at his legs.
What's the outcome?
A killer uppercut to her forehead, knocking her unconscious and leaving her in a coma for 6 weeks.
Rousey shoots for the takedown and those reflexes yall keep mentioning react to the lunge at his legs.
What's the outcome?
A killer uppercut to her forehead, knocking her unconscious and leaving her in a coma for 6 weeks.
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Good paragraph. Your wrong though.
A combat sport is a combat sport. If you have the proclivity to learn one its only natural you apply some of those same principles and techniques to the next.
There is no amount of antecdotal "evidence" to make me believe a 135lbs woman... with any amount of training (pro or novice) is standing a chance with a male who is one of the greatest athletes in the world.
Id take steph curry over rhonda, id take bryce harper over rhonda, id take sidney crosby over her etc etc.
Give me a man thats an athlete and its overrrr. Holly holm rag dolled rhonda and mounted her. Made her miss with ease. If you think she could withstand even one of those straight lefts she was eating from someone bigger and stronger with more weight behind it... i have to disagree.
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Btw rhondas not an elite fighter. Fwiw
You have to beat an elite fighter to be an elite fighter. Shes beat girls with minimal talent and experience and got mauled in her only true test
Out before people try to tell me miesha tate could beat GGG in the octagon because he doesnt know enought about the ground game
You have to beat an elite fighter to be an elite fighter. Shes beat girls with minimal talent and experience and got mauled in her only true test
Out before people try to tell me miesha tate could beat GGG in the octagon because he doesnt know enought about the ground game
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Sid Crosby mention 
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I think if you gave Bonds a month to practice hitting fast pitch softballs he would be crushing them out of there with regularity regardless if it was Jenny Finch or Sidd Fynch.
Sure if he has to do something for literally the first time in his life with no practice, he's probably not going to be able to do it. Likewise I'm sure Mayweather would take some time to practice takedown defense etc leading up to the fight. He is one of the quickest twitchiest boxers, I'm pretty sure he could get away from Rousey
I also feel pretty confident after watching her get pummeled by somebody with actual striking skills, that he would put her to sleep with one or two punches in the middle of that take down attempt
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and thats exactly the point im making.
if floyd had no MMA practice time and had to fight rousey, i don't think he's going to win.
if he had practice then maybe I tilt the odds in his favour.
also im not begrudging anyone for laughing at Rousey, I laughed as well, she got humbled in a hilarious way.
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So in an MMA fight you would take even non fighters over ronda?
Cmon man.
the differences between men and women aren't complex, they are simple and measurable. 5-10% more mucle.
So You think it's impossible for a fighter to beast someone who has a 5-10% muscle mass advantage?
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Yes i would if theyre one of the best athletes in the world... its not that hard to comprehend.
She isnt skilled to the point where id take her skill over the natural advantages of an elite male. Period.
If we were talkin holm the list would be alot shorter.
Weve been having this convo for like 2 years in here. There was an NTer who trains to fight at shields gym and i told him id pay for my own flight to come fight the best female fighter in the gym... im a washed up average athlete.
People forget generally the best athletes in the world are sooo athletic they could play almost any sport and have sucess. Although there are manyyy techniques to learn the idea that the laymen hasnt had any of this expeirence is short sighted. For all we know stephy curry may have done tae kwan doe his whole life. Maybe he boxes for fun? Point being a week of practical applications in mma for an elite athlete may be of the same benefit as you training for 18 months... im never going to be believe a woman that is 135 lbs is going to withstand the pubishment from a man. Straight lefts from someone almost 100 pounds lighter than ne disorientated her n split her lip to the point of plastic surgery....
id crush her orbital bones with mere jabs
She isnt skilled to the point where id take her skill over the natural advantages of an elite male. Period.
If we were talkin holm the list would be alot shorter.
Weve been having this convo for like 2 years in here. There was an NTer who trains to fight at shields gym and i told him id pay for my own flight to come fight the best female fighter in the gym... im a washed up average athlete.
People forget generally the best athletes in the world are sooo athletic they could play almost any sport and have sucess. Although there are manyyy techniques to learn the idea that the laymen hasnt had any of this expeirence is short sighted. For all we know stephy curry may have done tae kwan doe his whole life. Maybe he boxes for fun? Point being a week of practical applications in mma for an elite athlete may be of the same benefit as you training for 18 months... im never going to be believe a woman that is 135 lbs is going to withstand the pubishment from a man. Straight lefts from someone almost 100 pounds lighter than ne disorientated her n split her lip to the point of plastic surgery....
id crush her orbital bones with mere jabs
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This has all been discussed across multiple threads on here.
It's not even about muscle, or man vs. woman. Even though Floyd does have advantages in those depts. Along with hand speed and foot speed.
The fight starts on the feet. Sometimes it doesn't get to the ground. It's MMA. It's not wrestling where points of the match start on the ground.
Ronda needs to wade through his boxing to get herself into a position to use her judo. Remember, Ronda is not a wrestler. She is a judoka. And Judo and wrestling are not the same.
She has eaten punches from average, at best (by professional fighter standards), strikers to get to the clinch before.
Floyd is ELITE. She doesn't move her head. Doesn't move her feet well. He is actually criticized for how much he moves in his fights and punches off of his movement.
He'd pick her apart and keep moving the way Holly did IMO. His right hand also seems stronger than it gets credit for. He doesn't KO opponents but they also don't walk him down.
Read these 2 articles. Neither of which pertain to Floyd specifically. But think about what they say about Ronda, her fight with Holly, and what it would mean for her in a fight against Floyd.....
http://www.mmaweekly.com/5-ways-ronda-rousey-can-dramatically-improve-her-boxing-technique
http://fightland.vice.com/blog/how-holly-holm-killed-queen-ronda-rousey
Ronda wasn't what everyone thought she was. Her striking has always been questionable. She's shown bad cardio past round 1.
It's a fight, so you can never say it's "impossible" for her to beat him, but if you look at all of the information out there, this is a BAD fight for her on so many levels.
It's not even about muscle, or man vs. woman. Even though Floyd does have advantages in those depts. Along with hand speed and foot speed.
The fight starts on the feet. Sometimes it doesn't get to the ground. It's MMA. It's not wrestling where points of the match start on the ground.
Ronda needs to wade through his boxing to get herself into a position to use her judo. Remember, Ronda is not a wrestler. She is a judoka. And Judo and wrestling are not the same.
She has eaten punches from average, at best (by professional fighter standards), strikers to get to the clinch before.
Floyd is ELITE. She doesn't move her head. Doesn't move her feet well. He is actually criticized for how much he moves in his fights and punches off of his movement.
He'd pick her apart and keep moving the way Holly did IMO. His right hand also seems stronger than it gets credit for. He doesn't KO opponents but they also don't walk him down.
Read these 2 articles. Neither of which pertain to Floyd specifically. But think about what they say about Ronda, her fight with Holly, and what it would mean for her in a fight against Floyd.....
http://www.mmaweekly.com/5-ways-ronda-rousey-can-dramatically-improve-her-boxing-technique
http://fightland.vice.com/blog/how-holly-holm-killed-queen-ronda-rousey
Ronda wasn't what everyone thought she was. Her striking has always been questionable. She's shown bad cardio past round 1.
It's a fight, so you can never say it's "impossible" for her to beat him, but if you look at all of the information out there, this is a BAD fight for her on so many levels.
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They just discussed this on First Take. Skip and Steven A not there.
Dude just said it was "absurd" that people believed she could beat Floyd.
That people wanted to believe a great woman could beat a great man in a fight. Especially a man with a history of domestic violence.
But that she was never what she was being sold to be. She turned out to not even be the best fighter in her own weight class.
Kate Fagan, the woman on the panel, agreed that she could not beat Floyd.
Dude just said it was "absurd" that people believed she could beat Floyd.
That people wanted to believe a great woman could beat a great man in a fight. Especially a man with a history of domestic violence.
But that she was never what she was being sold to be. She turned out to not even be the best fighter in her own weight class.
Kate Fagan, the woman on the panel, agreed that she could not beat Floyd.
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anyone who thinks or thought this is just an idiot......
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If u think rousey can fade Floyd then I don't want u next to me when **** pops off
