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Originally Posted by ElijahBrohammed
It didn't take long for Essential to bash the right. His day isn't complete without it.
I'm finally putting him on ignore.
Who wants to end Social Security (even though it has ran $2 trillion surplus and will pay 100% of benefits until 2037, and will be able to pay 78% of benefits until 2081, when it then finally runs a deficit... And all its problems of money are caused by pillaging its surplus for silly +#+* like tax cuts and war)... Who wants to end Medicare/Medicaid.... Exactly................ Not liberals
We come to a paradox...
The level of the production you would to sustain the Welfare State cannot be sustained by the Welfare State. It is maintained through dissolving living standards, a depleted currency, and never ending borrowing and debt.
Only the Paul Krugmans and Robert Riechs of the world can come up with as much chicanery as those numbers are. The United States is currently $13,000,000,000,000.00 in debt, Social Security is currently running a $110,000,000,000,000.00 in unfunded liabilities. When you are that much in debt, you never run a surplus of anything.
Originally Posted by rashi
Who wants to end Social Security (even though it has ran $2 trillion surplus and will pay 100% of benefits until 2037, and will be able to pay 78% of benefits until 2081, when it then finally runs a deficit... And all its problems of money are caused by pillaging its surplus for silly +#+* like tax cuts and war)... Who wants to end Medicare/Medicaid.... Exactly................ Not liberals
if you are reffering to how this country was built of thievery, slaughter, deception and greed then yeah I get itOriginally Posted by Ruxxx
Originally Posted by Master Zik
It's the American way. If you can't figure out that then you'll never be able to figure out what this country is really about.
Agreed, popped into my head as well.Originally Posted by bijald0331
One of my fav scenes/dialogue in Sopranos history.�
K2theAblaM wrote:
Essential1 wrote:
Because Liberals defend internment camps...... #*@!Originally Posted by Rexanglorum
Essential1 wrote:
Originally Posted by Budweiser
blackngold1z wrote:
yet another reason to hate fdr
Impossible. Liberals have never done anything wrong, ever.
If by "liberal" you mean of the left wing, well yes, your people did support internment camps. When you decide to give government a lot of power, entire groups of people in your society will get crushed. If you, like many "progressives" or "liberals" (or what ever name you hide your left wing authoritarian thoughts behind) believe that society's problems can be solved by giving enough power to enough 'experts" in Washington, individuals and entire groups with your society will get crushed and the reason is because government is simply a blunt instrument that exists to exercise, violent and coercive powers over others. When you decide that all or most problems can be solved by the blunt instrument of state power, politically powerless groups and individuals will eventually have their property, liberty and lives taken from then by the omnipotent state.
Absolute nonsense......
Just like when these "Washington Experts" who took the liberal position of deregulating Wall Street, the Banks, and Big Business in the 1980s, late 1990s, and more than ever in the 2000's (btw that is not a liberal position, seeing as how you wouldn't know what one is if it slapped you in the face) and the entire working class got as you call it got "crushed"...
Also riddle me this batman, look at Washington now... Look at how corrupt it is... The Supreme Court Ruling that established Corporations are Individuals and are allowed to pump as much money as they want into elections, was voted in favor by the Conservative Justices and more liberal justices voted against... The topic of Campaign Finance is only touched by Liberals in DC right now, Conservatives won't even get 10 feet near it.... Wall Street/Banking Reform, Liberals wanted to make regulations to protect consumers, Republicans wanted to ease regulations more (as if we haven't already seen the result of it)... Who tried to end corporate loopholes for taxes, and who tried to end tax cuts to companies shipping jobs overseas? Liberals.........When Liberal tried to pass a health care bill to anyone who became sick as a direct result of 9/11 it took us TWO TIMES TO PASS IT... Still only getting 17 Republicans to agree with it... When it came to giving tax cuts to Small businesses to get them to hire people, who filibustered it, you got it Conservatives... When Liberals tried to reign in Health Insurance Company malpractices, who actually tried to pass the legislation? And who at every turn, watered it down with obstructionism, and fear mongering, to a bill that is similar to Bob Dole's proposal in 1994, and which most people assume the large core will not work...
When Liberals try to allow gays to openly serve in the military, or allow them to get similar benefits as any other couple, or tries to give them the ability to get married, who gets in the way? Conservatives.... Who typically feels women shouldn't have the right to an abortion? Conservatives....
Who wants to end Social Security (even though it has ran $2 trillion surplus and will pay 100% of benefits until 2037, and will be able to pay 78% of benefits until 2081, when it then finally runs a deficit... And all its problems of money are caused by pillaging its surplus for silly +#+* like tax cuts and war)... Who wants to end Medicare/Medicaid.... Exactly................ Not liberals
Sounds like we want to oppress people doesn't it...
Bingo.
The irony of rex's post purplexes me.
Can you tell me what is ironic about my post?
Essential is not yet mature enough to understand that "liberal" and "leftist" are not the same thing, but I thought that you would be discerning enough. The authoritarian left has hijacked the word "liberal" from people like myself and I not going to let them forget it.
Originally Posted by Rexanglorum
The authoritarian left has hijacked the word "liberal" from people like myself and I not going to let them forget it.
My man just posted warning us he's posting laterOriginally Posted by Rexanglorum
double post, but not one to pad my post count, I have a response/edit forthcoming.