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you dudes just dont get it![]()
dudes are making BASKETBALL shoes for BASKETBALL with NEW and better TECHNOLOGY-----they dont care about the quality of REPLICAS that USED to have the newest technology
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you dudes just dont get it![]()
dudes are making BASKETBALL shoes for BASKETBALL with NEW and better TECHNOLOGY-----they dont care about the quality of REPLICAS that USED to have the newest technology
you dudes just dont get it![]()
dudes are making BASKETBALL shoes for BASKETBALL with NEW and better TECHNOLOGY-----they dont care about the quality of REPLICAS that USED to have the newest technology
you dudes just dont get it![]()
dudes are making BASKETBALL shoes for BASKETBALL with NEW and better TECHNOLOGY-----they dont care about the quality of REPLICAS that USED to have the newest technology
This will probably go ignored, but hey...
...Nike still makes the shoes, and Nike really does not dig that people would rather wear the retro Jordan's, over their newer lines like that of LeBron and Kobe.
Jordan has too much power, then could sink the ship of Nike if he ever loses the popularity that he has. So what does Nike do? Well, suddenly the quality of Jordan product begins to diminish, possibly to sabotage the demand of retro's, as Nike knows that QUALITY should be in demand from all consumers, yet they also fail in their newer lines in regard to quality construction as well. With Nike going almost all plastic in their main sig lines, I don't blame anyone who'd rather play in a pair of Retro XII's, over playing in a pair of Kobe's.
Do you know business?AKA man, I've sided with you on a bunch of issues but I can't on this one. To say that Nike is intentionally gimping JB is borderline asinine. Nike started messing with pleather (plastic leather) on their Cortez and AF1 back in '03 while JB started running that crap on select retros starting in '04 well before the JB craze that exists now. My 2004 Olympic VIIs are entirely pleather while my '05 Xs have pleather on the sides. From '04 to '07' they've been running pleather on select retros - mainly OG colourways and from '08 they've been running it on their entire line up. Even the 'leather' they run now is some sort of vinyl or leatherette - not real full grain.
You give way too much credit to MJ and Jordan brand my man.
im really starting to think that that all you dudes from california are sweet b
This right here is KEY, and many do not understand it. They claim that I am lying or crazy, or simply making things up, but this comment nails it.Jordan Brand can only do to us what we let them do. This has been a slow process as over the years we've seen quality diminish, not overnight. The economy has been tough on everyone, including nike based on their 4th quarter results, which came in lower than projected. Nike knows this shoe bubble isnt going to last forever, so what better way to maximize profit than by auctioning off the contract to make retros to the lowest bidder factory, not caring what they produce, then dropping a whole bunch of heat in one year. Back in the late 80s and 90's you had only one maximum 2 jordan series drop a year, with the colorways in it. That may equate to a release every two months depending on which series shoe it was. Now you have at least 2 retros dropping a month!!!!! Here's the kicker 125 in 1990 is a lot more than 125 in 2012.... and quality wont return because low quality is selling out on release day. Is JB doing this on purpose.... YES of course they are!!!! Unlike technology which is always evolving and focused in bringing us the newest, fastest, and best quality with everyone competing for market share....Who can compete with JB when it comes to shoes? You could walk into PAYLESS SHOES and buy a pair of shoes for 19.99 thats made from better quality materials than most retros... But how many of us would be caught dead in some xj-900's or pro-wings (og's know what im talking about) We are paying for the name... the design.... the brand... the hype.... and whatever satisfaction that comes with wearing a shoe not everyone can afford. R.I.P quality materials, we'll always love you an miss you!!!![]()
You're speaking way over some peoples heads bruh.Jordan Brand can only do to us what we let them do. This has been a slow process as over the years we've seen quality diminish, not overnight. The economy has been tough on everyone, including nike based on their 4th quarter results, which came in lower than projected. Nike knows this shoe bubble isnt going to last forever, so what better way to maximize profit than by auctioning off the contract to make retros to the lowest bidder factory, not caring what they produce, then dropping a whole bunch of heat in one year. Back in the late 80s and 90's you had only one maximum 2 jordan series drop a year, with the colorways in it. That may equate to a release every two months depending on which series shoe it was. Now you have at least 2 retros dropping a month!!!!! Here's the kicker 125 in 1990 is a lot more than 125 in 2012.... and quality wont return because low quality is selling out on release day. Is JB doing this on purpose.... YES of course they are!!!! Unlike technology which is always evolving and focused in bringing us the newest, fastest, and best quality with everyone competing for market share....Who can compete with JB when it comes to shoes? You could walk into PAYLESS SHOES and buy a pair of shoes for 19.99 thats made from better quality materials than most retros... But how many of us would be caught dead in some xj-900's or pro-wings (og's know what im talking about) We are paying for the name... the design.... the brand... the hype.... and whatever satisfaction that comes with wearing a shoe not everyone can afford. R.I.P quality materials, we'll always love you an miss you!!!![]()
Sneakerheads are like abused girlfriends in a perverse way sometimes. The woman will complain to her friends and family about him, cry about him, and threaten to leave him. All he needs to do is bring a home a flower from 7/11 and she's back on her knees sucking him dry. Sneaker heads that complain about jb but yet buy every release are no different. They'll complain and cry in the forums, yet they're the 1st ones in line come release date.
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OH **** long dress kilt .....he swaggin while we hatin.
EDIT: The look on dude face...![]()
Jordan Brand can only do to us what we let them do. This has been a slow process as over the years we've seen quality diminish, not overnight. The economy has been tough on everyone, including nike based on their 4th quarter results, which came in lower than projected. Nike knows this shoe bubble isnt going to last forever, so what better way to maximize profit than by auctioning off the contract to make retros to the lowest bidder factory, not caring what they produce, then dropping a whole bunch of heat in one year. Back in the late 80s and 90's you had only one maximum 2 jordan series drop a year, with the colorways in it. That may equate to a release every two months depending on which series shoe it was. Now you have at least 2 retros dropping a month!!!!! Here's the kicker 125 in 1990 is a lot more than 125 in 2012.... and quality wont return because low quality is selling out on release day. Is JB doing this on purpose.... YES of course they are!!!! Unlike technology which is always evolving and focused in bringing us the newest, fastest, and best quality with everyone competing for market share....Who can compete with JB when it comes to shoes? You could walk into PAYLESS SHOES and buy a pair of shoes for 19.99 thats made from better quality materials than most retros... But how many of us would be caught dead in some xj-900's or pro-wings (og's know what im talking about) We are paying for the name... the design.... the brand... the hype.... and whatever satisfaction that comes with wearing a shoe not everyone can afford. R.I.P quality materials, we'll always love you an miss you!!!![]()
Do you know business?
You don't think that Nike's future is at stake, especially since they no longer are the sole owners of Jordan Brand and the retro's they produce?
Let's take a good look at this, is there truly a high demand for their newer product?
As a company, how do they get people to realize that their newer shoes, are actually better than the older ones, when nobody is buying it?
Did you happen to see Phil Knight's HOF speech?AKA man, I'm old enough to understand the fundamentals of business and supply vs. demand. I honestly don't know where you heard about Nike not owning their Jordan signature line up too - last I checked Tinker Hatfield and Wilson Smith are Nike employees. The 'Jordan' and 'Jumpman' branding might belong to MJ but everything else is most likely Nike's property.
I agree that NSW and JB retro product are both lacking in quality but JB sig product has always been top notch - how does this play into your theory that Nike are sabotaging them?
I think generally this is how Nike views the Retros now.Jordan RETROS are made for fashion statements, I feel that only the OGs were made for ballin. The other models aside from the retros have better quality.
Just for those in the know, anytime that Noble Kane starts screaming in my direction, just know that he is actually co_signing what it is that I am saying. He works for Nike, and he is worried that the truth is coming to light.